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RE: Music downloads - 12/7/2010 9:09:40 AM   
CRYPTICLXVI


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ORIGINAL: GreedyTop

limewire shut down?

well, shit.. there went my chances for finding the band Hurricane...


Found one torrent on Demonoid on the first page of a search, available in lossless...but nothing on Piratebay.

Also, if you have winrar, there are some good music 'blogs'...

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RE: Music downloads - 12/7/2010 11:32:53 AM   
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Status: offline 		If you want to pay for them you can find pretty much anything you want HERE and most are only $0.09 per song some are more.

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RE: Music downloads - 12/7/2010 11:53:32 AM   
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Megaupload links are easy to find on google and it's waaay safer than P2P.

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RE: Music downloads - 12/7/2010 3:18:08 PM   
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I would be very interested in getting back to Usenet. I actually made some money there. I still have some binaries, which is what they call files, from there.

I know someone who downloads from itunes, but doesn't save. He copies it to a DAT, and then to a CD and then rips it himself. I am too lazy for that. I've also known someone who use(d) overnet (?) which was really good for porn videos. He was selling them for some "extra" cash.

These days I am leery of even burning audio CDs for people. It's one thing that I got it the way I got it. But in my case I could've recorded it off the radio. If I were to try to make money off it I would just sell preloaded harddrives with the entire collection. It is too big for CDs or DVDs. Buy a fifty buck 120GB or something, copy it all on there and sell it for more. "I'm not saying this drive is clean, there might be something on it. Lemme give you a hint" Wink wink. I would wipe my pawprints off of it for sure.

Downloading is destroying the music industry, so I am waiting for their next move. They have alot of clout and their income is very threatened. They've already gone after a few, and they probably wish they could fine or jail just about everyone involved, but they can't. And if they get a motherfucker like me in court, it will not go well for them. I have outlined the possible defense in other posts. One of my lawyers likes my concept for a defense and agrees that the Napster case could've been beaten. Of all people, he is an avid downloader.

Right after the OP here, I got back on and everything worked fine. There is no central server or location for them to target. The server is effectively every PC on the network at the time.

Usenet would still be a good option, because they don't draw alot of attention these days.

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RE: Music downloads - 12/7/2010 3:37:46 PM   
Musicmystery


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Same thing I have always done when I wanted music. I go out and buy the cd

Yup.

Or order it from Amazon.

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RE: Music downloads - 12/7/2010 5:05:04 PM   
littlewonder


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Status: offline 		I remember usenet. Used to use it all the time about 13 years ago. I don't think I've paid for music in almost 15 years. I usually google a torrent or use megaupload or find it on some other storage site.Finding stuff on google for free is incredibly easy.


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RE: Music downloads - 12/7/2010 6:56:38 PM   
DomImus


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ORIGINAL: blackpearl81

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ORIGINAL: DomImus
I subscribed to my first real internet service (Netcom) in May 1995. I was on Usenet within a month. It still boggles my mind how few people who use the internet daily have no idea what Usenet is.


What reader do you use?


Forté Agent. There are other equally good newsreaders but I have always liked Agent and have used it for 15 years. I've tried some of the others over the years and recall that some of them had features I liked that Agent did not have but they lacked features that Agent had that I did not wish to abandon. I like that the newest Agent will export nzb files. I use nzb files a lot and NZB-o-Matic is much faster on my ISP and server (Comcast and Astra). I was a long time Giganews subscriber until about 18 months ago. Astra is $11/mo for unlimited downloads. Their completion and retention are mind boggling. I can find things on their server that are over two years old and still complete.


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RE: Music downloads - 12/7/2010 8:31:17 PM   
Termyn8or


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Status: offline 		Hey Imus, noting the picture under your paddles and your name I see a picture. A quite nice one. True blue comes to mind.

Do you remember misc.activism.militia ? In misc there was another one that had to do with survival. They're probably dead now but for a time they were really going. There were the crazies of course, but a couple of sharp ones. I think alot of the old newsgroups are moderated now, and might be a bit less easy to get into. Might read them, but things have changed a bit.

In the beginning for me AOL software had a viewer and all the credentials or whatever for posting was handled automatically. They dropped the support some years ago and the way I get to it now is google. That's not cutting it so well though.

I tried to setup Outlook Express as well as Outlook and I just gave up because it just wasn't working. Just getting on the phone with my ISP took some time before I got to someone who even knew anything about setting up NNTP or whatever. Browsing through the groups in the old days was cool. Seemed like there were a gillion of them. Now, I couldn't tellya.

But as it applies to files, if there are servers, there is a method of enforcement. Someone somewhere they can shut down, threaten or lock up, or whatever. Sharing music might not be the best idea there, but if people are doing it, well then they are. What could they do, stop all binaries ? I don't think so. But it is easier I think for them to be shut down than P2P. As long as someone signed on the dotted line, they look for that person. So now what, go after those who wrote the P2P software ? What would you charge them with, creating a weapon of mass destruction ? Well then all gun manufacturers should pay for all the shootings and car manufacturers should pay for all the car wrecks. Yeah right.

T

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RE: Music downloads - 12/8/2010 1:02:28 AM   
SirPumpy


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ORIGINAL: vancraft

i know an unjust villainous person who uses utorrent, this scum bag also uses piratebay to find them. when his mouth isnt filled with the souls of the innocent he doesnt recommend frostwire as the 'wires' tend to destroy comps, in his experience.



As an Ex I.T. guy and security consultant (who said hackers don't get paid?) id recommend leaving bearshare, frost or the remainders of Limewire well alone.

Its asking for trouble and you poke a huge hole in your firewalls running it plus you don't know what you are downloading a lot of the time.

Files disappear mid download, spam and crap is all over the place and there is no organisation at all plus its easy peasy to grab your IP addy so the Music moguls can come a knocking on your door with search warrants.

IF you know what you are doing with computers and security then its your choice but if you don't then use one of the many online music stores who sell chart hit singles for as little as $1.

That said I do like uTorrent a lot and have a swag of favourite torrent sites for things as unusual as Motor cycle and car manuals and I found some very cool medieval restrain diagrams for amateur blacksmiths .




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RE: Music downloads - 12/8/2010 7:04:00 AM   
DomImus


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ORIGINAL: Termyn8or
Do you remember misc.activism.militia ?

In the beginning for me AOL software had a viewer and all the credentials or whatever for posting was handled automatically.

I tried to setup Outlook Express as well as Outlook and I just gave up because it just wasn't working. Just getting on the phone with my ISP took some time before I got to someone who even knew anything about setting up NNTP or whatever.

But as it applies to files, if there are servers, there is a method of enforcement.


m.a.m. is still there or at least it is a listed group on Astra. It probably would not have interested me but you are correct there was and in many cases still is a newsgroup about any and every topic. AoHell's nntp interface was horrendous. I was never an AOL'er but my ex had it when I met her. One quick peek was all it took. Blimey. Outlook as a newsreader is only marginally better (read: it sucks - just like it does for email). These days most ISP's have dumped their nntp services. There are a handful of free ones that are text only but I have never checked them out. Thirty cents a day won't break my bank.

I have always felt that anyone who used P2P services had about a hundred pounds of brain damage. It's like tattooing "Fine the shit out of me" on your forehead. Escpecially after all of the high profile lawsuits that have made the news. Now the movie studios are going through the same stuff that the record companies went through ten years ago. With the advent of these ubiquitous super high speed internet connections downloading entire movies on dvd is relatively easy - even easier if they are compressed using some codec like xvid or divx. The equivalent of a video mp3 file. Even the porn companies are starting to get in on the litigation bandwagon.

The hardware industry isn't making it any easier. There are dvd players out there with USB ports built in and they will play a myriad of video formats. No need to download and burn that dvd. Just download the avi of the flick, copy to your thumb drive or USB hard drive (which are also cheap as hell) and in minutes you are in business.

Eventually they'll come for the Usenetters but it probably won't be as easy as snagging the P2P'ers.




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RE: Music downloads - 12/8/2010 7:59:37 AM   
Termyn8or


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Status: offline 		All this reminds me to clean out my shared directory. Last time they went after those who shared ALOT of files. One downloader they went after was a kid on his Grandparents computer, imagine their reaction when the knock on the door came ! Haven't heard much more about it lately, but that is not necessarily a good thing.

They are not going to stop it completely - ever. I see their next move as doing something to the music, or maybe some mandates on new MP3/4 compressors to keep them from compressing. Without compression CD quality takes what, 10MB/min. ? Try downloading that. Of course that would put a kink in streaming sites. Of course some will still be out there with the current compressor programs but eventually they will stop running - most likely after the next "advancement" in software.

They can also attack the players to some degree, Windows Media already has some of those "features". itunes makes it impossible to use files DLed on P2P. No daring dowlnloader should be caught dead without VLC. VLC plays almost anything. Those other brands of MP3 players work just fine with the fruits of P2P.

Still not good enough. It will take alot of lobbying money to get the kind of draconian laws on the books to enable them to effectively enforce anything. What's more, the IP can be beaten, if by no other way than to run the P2P software off a thumb drive. Bearshare is totally portable, once installed you can just copy the files to any media and it'll run. Someone could sneak in your house and throw a thumbdrive in, get their "loot" and you would never know. And what of wifi ? On my laptop I can sit in a parking lot and download.

I think it would be easier to shut down Usenet - at least when it comes to downloading. the files are on a server, that is easier to find than some guy in a coffee shop on a laptop. However Usenet doesn't have the notariety. How many people on the internet do you think know of Usenet at all ?

Everything else in the world seems to be turning to shit, why not the entertainment industry ? Sorry about their luck.

T

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RE: Music downloads - 12/8/2010 8:03:08 AM   
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ORIGINAL: NuevaVida

I buy songs from iTunes.  Don't have to buy the whole CD/album - can just select individual songs. 

I never used Limewire.  I always heard it dumped a lot of spyware on your computer.  I don't have an issue paying a dollar a song.



That's what I think, too.  Sure, there are rare cases when things can't be found, but seriously in this day and age you can't find a way to do this legally so that the appropriate people get their due?

This reminds me of ... remember that show Rent?  The man who wrote it put in the contract that the first 20 or so people to buy tix got them really cheaply so that people who were poor could afford to see the show.  I loved that.  And didn't U2 have a policy with their concerts that people in poor countries paid much less and people in richer countries paid more? 

I love sliding scale fees. 

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RE: Music downloads - 12/8/2010 12:24:17 PM   
Termyn8or


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Status: offline 		Back to the OP here, I found this today :

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On October 26, 2010, US federal court judge Kimba Wood issued an injunction forcing LimeWire to prevent "the searching, downloading, uploading, file trading and/or file distribution functionality, and/or all functionality" of its software.[3][4] A trial investigating the damages necessary to compensate the affected record labels is scheduled to begin in January 2011.[5] As a result of the injunction, LimeWire 5.5.11 and newer have been disabled using a backdoor installed by the company. However, version 5.5.10 and all prior versions of LimeWire remain fully functional and cannot be disabled unless a user upgrades to one of the newer versions.[6][7]"

Found about the same thing with Bearshare. The last version that isn't somehow screwed up is 5.2.5.9.

T

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RE: Music downloads - 12/8/2010 12:29:47 PM   
Termyn8or


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Status: offline 		"Sure, there are rare cases when things can't be found,"

Depends on what you're looking for. 100 Proof Aged In Soul, unreleased Hank, Circus, Glass Bottle. The list could go on.

T

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RE: Music downloads - 12/8/2010 4:30:16 PM   
sunshinemiss


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Status: offline 		I found all of those on Amazon, Term.  It took me about 3 minutes.  I'd be shocked if there were no groups of like-minded folks who also collect / sell the kind of music you enjoy.  There's a group for everything!

Circus - the Lenny Kravitz album?  I didn't think you were a big Britney Spears fan.

< Message edited by sunshinemiss -- 12/8/2010 5:21:19 PM >

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RE: Music downloads - 12/8/2010 6:58:18 PM   
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Status: offline 		One thing you have to keep in mind is that downloading is NOT universally illegal. In Canada you pay a special surcharge whenever you purchase recordable media, and that goes to the appropriate royalty agencies for disbursement according to whatever formula they use...thus downloading is not illegal here.

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RE: Music downloads - 12/11/2010 2:44:52 AM   
Termyn8or


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Get it up folk ASAP. I am on and I think I will be for some time.

Now I want to hear of something good, something you CAN'T get. Something unfindable. Actually that is and was my specialty when I started out way back when. The first CD I bought was Alice Cooper - Billion Dollar Babies. I can't remember the first song I downloaded but now that I mention it, what the hell was it ?

Anyway, at this point I am taking requests for a very short time.

Quick now, the connection is strong at the moment.

T

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RE: Music downloads - 12/11/2010 4:38:40 AM   
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Status: offline 		Emule. Been using it for many happy years, not quite since the glory days of Napster, but it is also fantastic for finding rarer music.

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RE: Music downloads - 12/11/2010 12:25:41 PM   
Termyn8or


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Status: offline 		I've heard of emule. Actually alot of my older stuff I got via WinMX. These older non crippled versions of software might come back into vogue now.

UPGRADE UPGRADE UPGRADE ! Think, do they ever do anything you want ? Bearshare 5.2.5.0, Paint Shop Pro 4, Acrobat READER 5.1, IE 6, WMP 9 not 10, Office 97 Pro, the list goes on. All these things worked well and they cost money. Throw them out because we live in a society of disposables. Throw all that old shit out. Your $2,000 Revox tape recorder, the Nakamichi Dragon, all CD and DVD players unless they got bluray. All junk, you must have the latest everything. (bluray was obsolete the day it hit the shelves BTW)

And make it all automatic. Get ten virus scammers that don't fucking work and just don't worry about it as long as you have the money for new PCs, hell they are obsolete the day you buy them. Don't borrow your 5'1" olady's car keys or the seat will crush your chest into the steering wheel when you go to move the car. Get your updates every day, like a pill.

My old junk works. I got a 1995 car and when it is time for a new one I'll probably look for something in the early 1970s if I can afford it. If it is so shitty why is it so expensive ? My old Boston Acoustics speakers strill work, in fact we just spent a couple hundred on them. If I buy new speakers I doubt they'll last a year. These are old enough to drink, and they actually have. (had some wild parties) When you fall on these, they don't break, YOU DO.

I've been downloading for ten years or more. It wants me to upgrade the software, to the point of closing the program sometimes if I refuse. Fukum. I got it to run. Last night I downloaded a few things which I have owned before. Corny shit, but it warrants my collection.

WinMX is portable and I have a copy. Maybe I should try it, maybe it's going to make a comeback.

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RE: Music downloads - 12/11/2010 2:34:14 PM   
Termyn8or


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Status: offline 		A comeback is,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

Well I am concerned about the health of P2P so I like to be on it. I cleaned up my shared directory and got to it, lending a hand to the community at large,,,,,,,,per se,,,,,,,,,,,,,

Have dowlnloaded now all those favorite old time all timers. Archies, Alvin And The Chipmunks, The Partridge Family. Now I'm a real pirate. I better stash the guns, silver and gold, and the wimminfolk.

Is that a knock at the door ?

T

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