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RE: obsession with your Mistress/Master - 12/7/2010 1:43:25 PM   
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So you are off to have bees trample your stamens?

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RE: obsession with your Mistress/Master - 12/7/2010 1:44:46 PM   
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So you are off to have bees trample your stamens?


Thanks for making me laugh mnottertail!

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RE: obsession with your Mistress/Master - 12/7/2010 4:00:23 PM   
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Yes, I suppose that obsession is a strong word with negative connotations. I don't know of a better word to use though. It is an intense feeling of love that I feel for her. While I certainly think about her alot, I am able to function at my job, and I don't neglect the necessary things in my life. On the contrary, my desire for her drives me want to excel in all areas of life. I don't mean to give the impression that I have become worthless in all other areas of my life, and that I call her 20+ times a day. AquaticSub, even though I use the word obsessed,  I can honestly say that I have never raised a hand against any woman. Even if she stuck a dagger in my heart and twisted it I would love her, and hope that one day she would change her mind. I know this sounds so cliche, but I learned with my ex-wife that when you love someone you must be willing to let them go. I would never presume that she is obligated to be in my life for any reason.

This is not the first time I have been so preoccupied with someone, but the rapid pace at which my fixation on her has advanced has taken me by suprise. The other time I was obsessed with someone in a similar fashion was in a very negative relationship that lasted for 8 years. It did not start out negative, but gradually degenerated to something that led me down a very dark path. I loved her very much, and I was obsessed with her to my own harm. This feeling grew with time, and did not fade. When it was over I hurt very deeply for a long time, but I survived it. I feel I am a stronger individual for it. Honestly, I thought that level of obsession was behind me for good. I am not obsessed with my Mistress to that degree, but I feel myself heading in that direction, and it is a little scary. I think I am predisposed to such emotions.

Now I have only known my Mistress for about 5 months now. This may sound adolescent, but I grew very attached to her within the first month of knowing her. Sorry vancraft if I sound like I am bragging  ,      I don't think I consciously try to, but I am so proud to be her slave. I guess it comes out in everything I type. What scares me is I don't know her as well as I would like for this degree of attachment. I am so new to this lifestyle! This is not a vanilla relationship, so I am not sure what the "rules" are. She has made it clear to me that she considers herself above me, and I should not expect to be her only slave. I don't know what her feelings are about me as well as I would like. She doesn't say much on the subject, but I feel that she does care about me. She has told me that she values me as her slave, and that I am her favorite. Is there an unspoken rule about a Mistress completely revealing how she feels about her slave? I think for her there is, she has alluded to how her friends are "too nice" to me which leads me to believe that she has a rule about this. I  also believe she cares for me from her actions. The very fact that she keeps me around says alot to me. I have realized that I have little to offer her materially that she cannot get in spades by herself, and the fact that she allows me in her presence despite this means there is a reason I am still around.

Again, what are the rules? Are there any? What should I expect from a relationship with a woman that sees herself as better than me? Which by the way is the same way I feel. I do feel she is better than me, and that is the type of woman I want. A superior individual that I can worship, love, and serve. I want to tell her everything I am saying in this post, but I am afraid of it coming out wrong. I don't want to upset her by presuming anything about this relationship that may not be true. I have always been better at writing my feelings down, and I plan to tell her about this thread so she can read this.

I did not think that I would not get so attached to her because of the type of relationship it is. Since I went into this knowing there would be others, and that my role is to be  a slave, not an equal I assumed it would be more of a casual thing. It seems to be that way for alot of people. I am so new to this, and I am so excited. It seems so wonderful, but at the same time I have seen how intense feelings, love, obsession, etc. can degenerate into something horrible (at least in my experience). I apologize for writing a book. Thank you for taking the time to read and respond to my questions and thoughts!

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RE: obsession with your Mistress/Master - 12/7/2010 4:57:08 PM   
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I don't think I'm obsessed with him but I am devoted to him and worship him. He is my life, my love but if I obsessed over him I wouldn't be able to do my job or take care of my daily life. Sure I think of him only a zillion times a day but I still gotta be a grown up.



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RE: obsession with your Mistress/Master - 12/7/2010 5:13:23 PM   
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Is it normal to feel obsessed with your Mistress/Master? Maybe that is a dumb question, but all my life I have been taught that it is bad to be obsessed. I feel I am becoming obsessed with my my Mistress, and she has told me she likes it like that. She says it is normal for her slaves to become obsessed with her, and that it pleases her to know that I think of her all the time. Don't get me wrong, I am still able to function in society, but everything I do I want to do for her. The thought of her makes me want to do better in all areas of life. It bothers me some though. I didn't realize how intense it was until yesterday. Something recently happend that made me think I was not going to be able to see her again. I was completely in tears, and unable to concentrate on anything. Now, I know that I would eventually get over it, but it was eye-opening to see how much she affects me. I mean, in some ways being completely enthralled by someone is intoxicating and blissful, but there is a flipside that is awful. Maybe I am just crazy, but am I the only one?


This is all perfectly normal to me. I have always felt these sorts of things, good and bad, and as intently as you describe, about someone who is "right." Maybe it's becuase I so rarely meet someone who is right? At those times, I feel not unlike a missing jigsaw piece must feel when it's found under the couch cushion and placed into the puzzle in the one spot where it fits _just perfectly_. Yes, losing a fit like that is a terrifying thought. I'm not surprised you're having such strong responses. My advice? Just close your eyes and enjoy this ride, both the ups and the downs. It doesn't come to town every day. :)

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RE: obsession with your Mistress/Master - 12/7/2010 5:22:39 PM   
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quote:

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This is not the first time I have been so preoccupied with someone, but the rapid pace at which my fixation on her has advanced has taken me by suprise. The other time I was obsessed with someone in a similar fashion was in a very negative relationship that lasted for 8 years. It did not start out negative, but gradually degenerated to something that led me down a very dark path. I loved her very much, and I was obsessed with her to my own harm. This feeling grew with time, and did not fade. When it was over I hurt very deeply for a long time, but I survived it...

Now I have only known my Mistress for about 5 months now. This may sound adolescent, but I grew very attached to her within the first month of knowing her. Sorry vancraft if I sound like I am bragging  ,      I don't think I consciously try to, but I am so proud to be her slave. I guess it comes out in everything I type. What scares me is I don't know her as well as I would like for this degree of attachment. I am so new to this lifestyle! This is not a vanilla relationship, so I am not sure what the "rules" are. She has made it clear to me that she considers herself above me, and I should not expect to be her only slave. I don't know what her feelings are about me as well as I would like. She doesn't say much on the subject, but I feel that she does care about me. She has told me that she values me as her slave, and that I am her favorite. Is there an unspoken rule about a Mistress completely revealing how she feels about her slave? I think for her there is, she has alluded to how her friends are "too nice" to me which leads me to believe that she has a rule about this.



feel free to 'brag' expressing positivity is always good, exspecially in this godforsaken place

just my opinion..
what your former relationship sounds like is a type of abusive relationship called a pedestal relationship. basicly its either one or both parties believing one person is far superior/perfect, you start denying any negative qualities of that person and begin obsessing over them, becomng needy and self blaming for everything whether its your fault or theirs. (this guy explains it fairly well http://www.articlesbase.com/dating-articles/putting-women-on-a-pedestal-biggest-relationship-mistakes-part-one-423392.html )

i personally have been in a very abusive pedestal relationship when i was younger and tended to get stuck in the addictive qualities of creating illusions of perfection in my partners. i for a while would look for and be attracted to people who would be abusive to me because the familarity was confurting. obviously i am just some random dude of the net but you should take a look at pedestal relationships and think about your current one, as it will either give more confidence that this is indeed healthy or give you a realization that you are being taken advantage of.

"she has alluded to how her friends are "too nice" to me which leads me to believe that she has a rule about this"

that brings up a major red flag for me, just my own opinions tho, obviously you are far more aware of yourself and this girl tho


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RE: obsession with your Mistress/Master - 12/7/2010 9:08:32 PM   
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Thanks vancraft I will read the article. She was laughing when she said her friends were too nice to me. She laughs alot with me, and at me. CaringandReal, Yes! That is how I feel, like I am where I belong and I don't ever want to leave that place. I think you are right, experiences like this seem to be hard to come by. This is a dream come true for me, and I will enjoy this ride for as long as it lasts. Which is a long time I hope. Unfortunately it seems like all things come to an end in this life, good or bad. At least I can say I met the Mistress of my dreams, and she allowed me to be a part of her life!

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RE: obsession with your Mistress/Master - 12/7/2010 9:20:53 PM   
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AquaticSub, even though I use the word obsessed,  I can honestly say that I have never raised a hand against any woman. Even if she stuck a dagger in my heart and twisted it I would love her, and hope that one day she would change her mind. I know this sounds so cliche, but I learned with my ex-wife that when you love someone you must be willing to let them go. I would never presume that she is obligated to be in my life for any reason.

I believe you.

But the term obsessed still scares the shit out of me when it comes to relationships. No matter how sweet and pussycat the person was I would, and have more than once, cut ties with anyone who was hinting at being obsessed with me or even another partner in my poly family.

Sorry - I'm just too aware of first murder/crimes of passion/etc that stem from obsession. Understand - I'm not saying you are going to do anything. I'm answering your question honestly by saying that obsession has no place in my relationships because of what it can lead to. Not will but can.
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Again, what are the rules? Are there any? What should I expect from a relationship with a woman that sees herself as better than me? Which by the way is the same way I feel. I do feel she is better than me, and that is the type of woman I want. A superior individual that I can worship, love, and serve. I want to tell her everything I am saying in this post, but I am afraid of it coming out wrong. I don't want to upset her by presuming anything about this relationship that may not be true. I have always been better at writing my feelings down, and I plan to tell her about this thread so she can read this.


I'm quite serious and not being dismissive when I say - ask HER not US. There isn't a hidden handbook that all the fem doms are passing around. Only what she wants and none of us can read her mind.

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RE: obsession with your Mistress/Master - 12/7/2010 11:50:38 PM   
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I agree that there arent rules you can hand out and follow and be a perfect slave, but one major rule in my own bdsm-world is Be honest to your Master/Mistress at ALL times.If I dont feel comfortable with something while we are in play, if Im just being moody, if I had a bad day, if I have questions, if I dont understand what He means, I have to be honest ALL the time.
Which is at times very hard, and its not been said I will get any answers *grins* thats His choice to make.But He needs to know how and what I feel.

And being patient is an advice a very powerfull Dom once gave me, and its so true.Dont rush into things and get ahead of yourself.I know how exciting it is when you are new to all of this and you are bouncing because you are so frikking happy you finally feel pieces fall into place, but, take it slow.
Try to find out your own limits, talk to your Mistress about everything.

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RE: obsession with your Mistress/Master - 12/8/2010 4:59:31 PM   
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Thanks for your reply Kinai. I agree with you, I don't want to hide anything at all from my Mistress. Patience is one thing I want to get better at. I want to know what she thinks about me so much! She tells me things occasionally and they are like precious gems that I treasure inside. Those things that she tells me sticks with me when I am feeling lonely, and it helps. I want to hear more, but she keeps her thoughts to herself often. That is her right. I get frustrated with that sometimes, but I accept it. vancraft, I read the article and I think that there is alot that applies to the relationship I had with my ex-wife. I don't know if it applies as much to this relationship though. I mean, she wants me to place her on a pedestal, and that is exactly what I want as well. I can definitely see how that can be a mistake in some, perhaps many relationships, but this is unlike any relationship I have ever had. To me the whole premise of a Mistress/slave relationship is that we are not equals. She is above me, and I am beneath her. It seems to me that some things that would work well in a vanilla relationship would be a mistake to try in a bdsm relationship. I guess it depends on a person's understanding of what that kind of relationship is about. Something I am still working out. 

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RE: obsession with your Mistress/Master - 12/8/2010 5:26:26 PM   
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I think it's pretty normal to be obsessed with the most wonderful and important thing in my entire life. She happens to be a slave, not a master/mistress but I don't see how that matters any. She is the center of my universe and my life's work. Yeah, I'm obsessed with her.

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RE: obsession with your Mistress/Master - 12/9/2010 12:48:08 AM   
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quote:

...vancraft, I read the article and I think that there is alot that applies to the relationship I had with my ex-wife. I don't know if it applies as much to this relationship though. I mean, she wants me to place her on a pedestal, and that is exactly what I want as well. I can definitely see how that can be a mistake in some, perhaps many relationships, but this is unlike any relationship I have ever had. To me the whole premise of a Mistress/slave relationship is that we are not equals. She is above me, and I am beneath her. It seems to me that some things that would work well in a vanilla relationship would be a mistake to try in a bdsm relationship. I guess it depends on a person's understanding of what that kind of relationship is about. Something I am still working out...


it sounds like you seem pretty sure your not in the destructive pedestal relationship

i see the mistress/slave relationship as a kinda healthy version of that, as with the sadist/masochist relationship it can look like an abusive scenario but thats why you create rules and boundaries to keep it a fun, good thing.
my belief is that bdsm for alot of people is a way to find the good stuff they like from something that can typically be really destructive, which is why if were not careful someone toxic can take advantage of us and push it into the abusive unhealthy side.

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