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RapierFugue -> RE: London Protests Turn Violent With Parliament Under Siege Protesters are now fighting with polic (12/13/2010 8:30:13 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: pahunkboy I am sorry that you have ruined this thread. Where, in your lunatic version of reality, "ruined"="pointing out PA is talking out of his arse". No. 238 in a series of 438,903.

Moonhead -> RE: London Protests Turn Violent With Parliament Under Siege Protesters are now fighting with polic (12/13/2010 8:41:15 AM)
Yeah, I know who you mean. Busting some really crap moves in a cardie and slacks...

LadyConstanze -> RE: London Protests Turn Violent With Parliament Under Siege Protesters are now fighting with polic (12/13/2010 8:43:14 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: RapierFugue quote: ORIGINAL: LadyConstanze so less of them might suffer from baldness or bad teeth... It's fewer. As in "fewer of them" might ... Oh, and I checked with my traffic cop mate and he said your "attorney" (not the UK term but no worries) friend is wrong about assault/violent crime and license loss through psychological profiling, in the UK at least. If the vehicle is used in a serious crime then the vehicle can be seized. If the driver is directly using the vehicle to commit acts of violence (such as armed robbery getaway driver or running people over deliberately) then the license can be seized if the offence contains references to violence, to prevent them doing it again. But nowhere in the statues is there anything about taking someone's license away as a direct result of a non-vehicular act of violence. In other words, if you chin someone in a pub, or beat your wife/husband, they aren't going to say "s/he's got anger management issues" and take your license away. The only possible thing he thought someone may have confused it with was if someone is sectioned for a violent act then the sectioning doctors can request suspension of their driving license if they can prove beyond reasonable doubt that the sectioned person is likely to harm themselves and/or others using a vehicle. But it's apparently very rare (he's seen it done twice in 16 years on the job). I bumped into their noise session (aka guitar practise in our basement) and asked if anybody can have the license revoked for committing crimes that have nothing to do with driving offenses and he explained that if somebody commits random acts of violence and there is a thread that he will use a vehicle as some sort of weapon (aka threatening somebody to run him/her over with the car), yes, they will take his permission to drive a motorized vehicle away, he doesn't actually need to run somebody over, physical assault and a threat to use the car as a weapon will do just fine, in some cases the threat to do so would be enough as it shows the person can't be trusted to handle a vehicle responsibly. Even if you missing somebody with your car and you just want to give him/her a scare and they feel like you threatened to run them over can be enough to have it revoked (I guess that would depend on witnesses), something weird about that assault actually starts way before an action is actually committed or somebody being injured, or if you go start running amok, your license is usually also toast due to a psychological issue that makes you unfit to drive. I didn't ask how often that happens as I just wanted to know the legal situation, not that I am planning to flunk out on my mortgage payment or something like that...

RapierFugue -> RE: London Protests Turn Violent With Parliament Under Siege Protesters are now fighting with polic (12/13/2010 8:45:22 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Moonhead Yeah, I know who you mean. Busting some really crap moves in a cardie and slacks... Ding. It's on the last 10 seconds of this one ... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5epzmqAVTmM

Moonhead -> RE: London Protests Turn Violent With Parliament Under Siege Protesters are now fighting with polic (12/13/2010 8:49:09 AM)
Merci beaucoup.

RapierFugue -> RE: London Protests Turn Violent With Parliament Under Siege Protesters are now fighting with polic (12/13/2010 8:52:18 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LadyConstanze I bumped into their noise session (aka guitar practise in our basement) and asked if anybody can have the license revoked for committing crimes that have nothing to do with driving offenses and he explained that if somebody commits random acts of violence and there is a thread that he will use a vehicle as some sort of weapon (aka threatening somebody to run him/her over with the car), yes, they will take his permission to drive a motorized vehicle away, he doesn't actually need to run somebody over, physical assault and a threat to use the car as a weapon will do just fine, in some cases the threat to do so would be enough as it shows the person can't be trusted to handle a vehicle responsibly. Even if you missing somebody with your car and you just want to give him/her a scare and they feel like you threatened to run them over can be enough to have it revoked (I guess that would depend on witnesses), something weird about that assault actually starts way before an action is actually committed or somebody being injured, or if you go start running amok, your license is usually also toast due to a psychological issue that makes you unfit to drive. I didn't ask how often that happens as I just wanted to know the legal situation, not that I am planning to flunk out on my mortgage payment or something like that... The point being, a vehicle has to be involved; you cannot, under any circumstances short of being sectioned, have your licensed revoked or suspended for acts of violence alone. It has to be vehicular. I mean to me it's actually fairly logical that someone with anger/violence management issues shouldn't be allowed to drive a car. But the law doesn't see it that way. Physical assault on its own, or threat of same, is not enough. It must be vehicular.

mnottertail -> RE: London Protests Turn Violent With Parliament Under Siege Protesters are now fighting with polic (12/13/2010 8:52:53 AM)
So, is this like our Iran Hostages? BBC2 nightline, day 421 of the siege of Parliament? Have the blighters been routed? Has winnie come off his statue and is singlehandedly holding off the despoilers of the crown even though he is down to his last 3 guinness bottles to throw at them (emptied of course)?

LadyConstanze -> RE: London Protests Turn Violent With Parliament Under Siege Protesters are now fighting with polic (12/13/2010 8:53:16 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: RapierFugue quote: ORIGINAL: LadyConstanze so less of them might suffer from baldness or bad teeth... It's fewer. As in "fewer of them" might ... Oh, and I checked with my traffic cop mate and he said your "attorney" (not the UK term but no worries) friend is wrong about assault/violent crime and license loss through psychological profiling, in the UK at least. If the vehicle is used in a serious crime then the vehicle can be seized. If the driver is directly using the vehicle to commit acts of violence (such as armed robbery getaway driver or running people over deliberately) then the license can be seized if the offence contains references to violence, to prevent them doing it again. But nowhere in the statues is there anything about taking someone's license away as a direct result of a non-vehicular act of violence. In other words, if you chin someone in a pub, or beat your wife/husband, they aren't going to say "s/he's got anger management issues" and take your license away. The only possible thing he thought someone may have confused it with was if someone is sectioned for a violent act then the sectioning doctors can request suspension of their driving license if they can prove beyond reasonable doubt that the sectioned person is likely to harm themselves and/or others using a vehicle. But it's apparently very rare (he's seen it done twice in 16 years on the job). I bumped into their noise session (aka guitar practise in our basement) and asked if anybody can have the license revoked for committing crimes that have nothing to do with driving offenses and he explained that if somebody commits random acts of violence and there is a thread that he will use a vehicle as some sort of weapon (aka threatening somebody to run him/her over with the car), yes, they will take his permission to drive a motorized vehicle away, he doesn't actually need to run somebody over, physical assault and a threat to use the car as a weapon will do just fine, in some cases the threat to do so would be enough as it shows the person can't be trusted to handle a vehicle responsibly. Even if you missing somebody with your car and you just want to give him/her a scare and they feel like you threatened to run them over it can be enough to have it revoked (I guess that would depend on witnesses), something weird about that assault actually starts way before an action is actually committed or somebody being injured, or if you go start running amok, your license is usually also toast due to a psychological issue that makes you unfit to drive. I didn't ask how often that happens as I just wanted to know the legal situation, which I somehow doubt changes how often it happens.

RapierFugue -> RE: London Protests Turn Violent With Parliament Under Siege Protesters are now fighting with polic (12/13/2010 8:57:45 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: mnottertail So, is this like our Iran Hostages? BBC2 nightline, day 421 of the siege of Parliament? Have the blighters been routed? Has winnie come off his statue and is singlehandedly holding off the despoilers of the crown even though he is down to his last 3 guinness bottles to throw at them (emptied of course)? Odd factoid; although Churchill drank Guinness (and loads of it, and loads of everything else), his tipple of choice was Pol Roger champagne. Their best champagne is named "Winston Churchill" in his honour. If you ever get the chance to try any, dive in. It's absolutely heavenly. Their "ordinary" is great, but the Winston Churchill is superb beyond measure. it appears to be on special offer for only £99 a bottle ATM ... tempting [;)]

LadyConstanze -> RE: London Protests Turn Violent With Parliament Under Siege Protesters are now fighting with polic (12/13/2010 9:18:44 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Moonhead You just need to practise the Scouse alphabet: "Ey ey eye ey ey..." My dog is from Liverpool, luckily she doesn't bark in a funny voice but has quite a big bark. Also the bad reputation of Scousers seems to be overrated, despite her being one, we still have the wheels of the car and the stereo.

pahunkboy -> RE: London Protests Turn Violent With Parliament Under Siege Protesters are now fighting with polic (12/13/2010 10:10:49 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Moonhead quote: ORIGINAL: pahunkboy I am sorry that you have ruined this thread. If you find it offensive that people will try to correct you when you start talking drivel, maybe you could try to have a clue what you're talking about in future? But no, can't possibly be your fault, can it? It must be these mean Brits picking on you with their nasty facts that have nothing to do with the value of gold or the Jewish banker conspiracy... and youns are capable of governing yourselves. HA!

RapierFugue -> RE: London Protests Turn Violent With Parliament Under Siege Protesters are now fighting with polic (12/13/2010 10:19:41 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: pahunkboy and youns are capable of governing yourselves. HA! I don't know if you're aware of this, but putting "HA!" or any of the other moronic, juvenile phrases you use, at the end of your posts doesn't make anything you say any more true. Quite the reverse; it paints you as a rather sad and desperate individual.

mnottertail -> RE: London Protests Turn Violent With Parliament Under Siege Protesters are now fighting with polic (12/13/2010 10:22:29 AM)
he did however use an o followed by a u which in colour or labour or many other words would be the proper way to spell it, but by god, youns is bad english either side of the pond, nyet?

pahunkboy -> RE: London Protests Turn Violent With Parliament Under Siege Protesters are now fighting with polic (12/13/2010 10:29:44 AM)
chuckles-- ;-)

RapierFugue -> RE: London Protests Turn Violent With Parliament Under Siege Protesters are now fighting with polic (12/13/2010 10:30:53 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: mnottertail he did however use an o followed by a u which in colour or labour or many other words would be the proper way to spell it, but by god, youns is bad english either side of the pond, nyet? The thing is, if I started pointing out his grammatical and spelling errors we'd all be here til doomsday. Reminds me of a moron on CM who hasn’t grasped what an apostrophe is for, although that other chap is even worse, though ever so slightly less mental than PA. although to be fair that’s a bar set so low you could trip over it.

windchymes -> RE: London Protests Turn Violent With Parliament Under Siege Protesters are now fighting with polic (12/13/2010 10:41:30 AM)
"Youns" or "yins" is regional slang or colloquilism or whatever from the Pittsburgh/Western PA/Southeastern Ohio area, pretty much like "y'all" in the south and "yooz" and "yooz all" in Philadelphia and southern New Jersey. A ton of people say it, not just hunkie, not that that makes it right, but it is kind of a cheap shot.....

pahunkboy -> RE: London Protests Turn Violent With Parliament Under Siege Protesters are now fighting with polic (12/13/2010 10:52:50 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: windchymes "Youns" or "yins" is regional slang or colloquilism or whatever from the Pittsburgh/Western PA/Southeastern Ohio area, pretty much like "y'all" in the south and "yooz" and "yooz all" in Philadelphia and southern New Jersey. A ton of people say it, not just hunkie, not that that makes it right, but it is kind of a cheap shot..... Good afternoon Wind. It is regional. "yepper" could be added to the list. PA Dutch/German/Amish/Meninite influence. As to Rap- no worries- he is blocked. I never block people permanently- maybe just till Christmas. "take notice" another local expression. Have a great day! :-)

RapierFugue -> RE: London Protests Turn Violent With Parliament Under Siege Protesters are now fighting with polic (12/13/2010 11:03:26 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: pahunkboy As to Rap- no worries- he is blocked. I never block people permanently- maybe just till Christmas. Feel free to make it permanent - it's not like I give a shit. That's twice you've "blocked" me now (except we both know you don't actually block me, you just read and don't reply) ... if you don't like hearing the truth, don't keep spouting invented crap, then changing the subject when anyone calls bullshit on you.

Moonhead -> RE: London Protests Turn Violent With Parliament Under Siege Protesters are now fighting with polic (12/13/2010 11:10:33 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: windchymes "Youns" or "yins" is regional slang or colloquilism or whatever from the Pittsburgh/Western PA/Southeastern Ohio area, pretty much like "y'all" in the south and "yooz" and "yooz all" in Philadelphia and southern New Jersey. A ton of people say it, not just hunkie, not that that makes it right, but it is kind of a cheap shot..... I always thought that was Scots, meself. It's a usage Billie Connolly's big on, if memory serves.

RapierFugue -> RE: London Protests Turn Violent With Parliament Under Siege Protesters are now fighting with polic (12/13/2010 11:18:24 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Moonhead It's a usage Billie Connolly's big on, if memory serves. I think you'll find that's used in a slightly different context; as applied to "the big yin", it means "the big one"; Billy is 6 foot 3 inches tall.

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