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RE: Condi Rice Schools Katie Couric On Iraq - 12/18/2010 5:21:31 PM

Politesub53

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ORIGINAL: FirmhandKY

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ORIGINAL: Politesub53

So now you are asserting Bush didnt lie, despite the intelligence known by the US. The following section, taken from the same link, says much about the Washington viewpoint on evidence. Especially the last paragraph.

Firm I am amazed you are pressing on with this nonsense despite me now having posted several different links, one from the UK official inquiry even saying Blair knew BEFORE the invasion. I admire your tenacity, if not your logic.

Committee Chairman Pat Roberts told NBC's Tim Russert that "Curveball really provided 98 percent of the assessment as to whether or not the Iraqis had a biological weapon."[This was in despite the fact that "nobody inside the U.S. government had ever actually spoken to the informant—except [for a single] Pentagon analyst, who concluded the man was an alcoholic and utterly useless as a source."
After learning the intelligence provided by Curveball was going to be used as the "backbone" of the case for war, the Pentagon analyst wrote a letter to the CIA expressing his concerns. The Deputy of the CIA Counter Proliferation Unit quickly responded by saying:
"Let's keep in mind the fact that this war's going to happen regardless of what Curve Ball said or didn't say. The Powers That Be probably aren't terribly interested in whether Curve Ball knows what he's talking about."

And I have fisked every single one of your sources and showed you how you are choosing to interpret it only in the way that you wish, not on what they actually say.

I call that ideological blindness, and cherry-picking.

Take the above quote. How does this prove anything about Bush?

First, if you'd been paying attention, you'd seen how the intelligence agencies - and specifically the CIA - (from your own source, no less) fubbed it up pretty badly, in just about all respects. And George Tenent's book and later statements can all be seen as attempts to pass the blame around to someone - anyone - else.

Your quote above is about a conversation within the CIA itself. You are assuming that the Deputy of the CIA Counter Proliferation Unit is talking about Bush, when you have no idea if he meant other higher ups in his own organization, nor do you know how many people where above him in that organization, nor if what he said was the truth, or his perception of the truth, or just BS blather. Hell, you don't even know if the conversation ever actually took place, or was just another attempt on the part of members of the CIA to pass the buck.

But you choose to take only the worst possible interpretation of everything, and believe all the propaganda that you are exposed to, because - quite simply - that is what you wish to believe, and your confirmation bias is bleeding all over the floor.

Firm

Not true and you know it. The UK source I quoted, from the Mirror article about the Inquiry named Blair in person. You assume he wouldnt have told Bush, just as you assume no one else told Bush. I assume that the leader of the US would be given the facts by his subordinates. Ive yet to see you post a link showing Bush knew there were WMDS, a fact he claimed to have certain proof of.

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