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RE: Advice on *how* to take things slow - 12/15/2010 6:18:07 AM   
lusciouslips19


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I can attest that SunshineMiss is worth knowing!

But honestly, I dont know how I slipped right in...... she seemed quite effortless to me!

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RE: Advice on *how* to take things slow - 12/15/2010 6:23:33 AM   
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That's not true lushy - I remember EXACTLY when you slipped in.  I called you on something, you disagreed, called me right back, and neither one of us got pissy about it... It was a misunderstanding, and I thought - Hey I can go with this gal....

Everybody, meet lushy - the first person I ever met from CM!

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RE: Advice on *how* to take things slow - 12/15/2010 6:39:31 AM   
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Hi Aqua,

I've thought a bit about this thread because my owner and I intentionally took things very slowly, and I'm trying to figure out, in retrospect, what that means, exactly!  So here are some random thoughts that have jumped into my brain:

We did not have sex until we had established a relationship together. Not necessarily a committed relationship yet, but definitely a recognition that we wanted to move forward together in life and create a relationship together.

"Play" came awhile later, after sex.  We chose to develop a foundation of trust and love, and very slowly bring play in down the road.  So we spent a lot of time hanging out, talking, having fun together, enjoying mutual interests together, and just learning each other along the way, without the whips and chains, so to speak.  This alleviated any notion that either of us were in it just to get our kinky groove on.

We didn't allow ourselves to get caught up in any "new relationship energy" and recognized that for what it was, when we felt it.  Sure, we were both happy and excited at what seemed to be blossoming, but we both understood there are so many layers to each other, and each layer would reveal itself in time.  So there wasn't this push for "OMG I'm totally loving this - let me learn all about you as fast as possible."  By doing this, "issues" (for lack of a better word) that needed working out would come up on their own, and could be talked through on a case-by-case basis, rather than a need to tackle them all at once.

For example, I have some friends who met, hit it off, got totally excited, and moved in together in three weeks time.  All of a sudden, every little small thing came up and had to be dealt with (leaving the cap off the toothpaste, leaving the toilet seat up/down, the way laundry is folded, how many times are you going to check your phone for text messages while we're watching TV, What? You want me to do the dishes every night?), and it was overwhelming.  The little things turned into one BIG thing, and instead of living peacefully, both were pretty stressed out for the first 6 months or so.

It takes time to get to know a person, and learn what their boundaries are in comparison to your own.  I've always said you really start knowing someone after at least 4 months.  Before then, there's still the "best behavior" thing going on (usually, not always) and that can't be sustained over time.  As I told Daddy in the beginning, "People tend to turn into a pumpkin after about 4 months."  For me, anyway, it takes about that long to begin to understand the various idiosyncrasies of another.

For us, when we found ourselves getting caught up with "OMG I want to be with you every night!!" we'd take a step back and schedule things with our friends and family, individually, to keep ourselves in check and to uphold the idea of two individuals coming together as unique, organic beings, with our own interests and friends, and with the intention of slowly bringing all of that together in time.  We figured, we have all the time in the world here, so let's practice patience and let this thing come together naturally, and at its own pace.

Not sure if any of this helps, but it's been our experience of walking the path slowly and with awareness. 


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RE: Advice on *how* to take things slow - 12/15/2010 11:05:41 AM   
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I've always been a person who takes things fast and slow simultaneously. I know that sounds like a bit of a contradiction, but I've always been this way. I will jump into something head-first and immerse myself in it. On the surface it looks like I am completely into it. But there is a very thick wall surrounding all the vulnerable parts of me that is always up, and it comes down VERY slowly. It's due to the fact that I have a very hard time trusting people, but I refuse to let that fear rule my life. In the end, I'm a bit reckless, but it hasn't broken me yet.

For me, the best way to slow things down a bit was to make sure I wasn't in a situation where my impetuous Aries nature could get the best of me. Public settings, hanging with the person with friends there. Essentially, knowing my dangerous situations and being honest with myself about them. Sure, it seems like a good idea for me to invite that hot guy over to watch a movie, but knowing me, it'll end up much more heated than expected. Soooo... no movie at my place until we've had dinner out a few times.

Goodness, talking about this reminds me of how glad I am not to be in the dating scene anymore. :)

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RE: Advice on *how* to take things slow - 12/17/2010 8:23:49 AM   
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This thread reminded me of a Keats poem.  I hope you won't mind my posting it here.  Trust and taking things slow seem to be interconnected - to me at least.

best,
sunshine

For you to trust me and me to trust you,
you have to accept me and I have to accept you
the way I am and the way you are,
fully seen and deeply known,
with no need of apology –
with my body imperfections and with yours,
with my character shortcomings and yours, too….
for you are a sacred gift to me
and I am a sacred gift to you,
and gifts are to be gratefully accepted
and heartily enjoyed,
but only if you trust me and I trust you,
can we let ourselves be ourselves
and forget real or unreal barriers,
conventions or inhibitions,
as to profoundly enjoy
what we’ve been granted:
you – the gift of me,
me – the gift of you,
as deeply as our inner worlds
can take us in,
with trust
and joy.

~John Keats


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RE: Advice on *how* to take things slow - 12/21/2010 9:18:26 AM   
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Interesting thread...and very applicable to me right now in my dating life.

After experiencing a very intense and hurtful long term relationship that never seems to totally go away, and trying to get over it, I am finding it very difficult to date. To be clearer; I am ok with dating and I am very open to meeting someone, but I am finding that the men I am meeting are not wanting to take anything slow.

I wish there was a way to really make men understand that it is not a good idea to be so impatient.

Example: I had a first date last night with someone from another site. He was cool on the phone so we met for a drink. It was going ok and then we had some food and went to a movie. All good right? No. He was pawing me in the movie theater like a horny 17 year old when I really wanted to watch the movie.

Then we leave and he says he had a great time and would love to see me again. I said, fine, call me.

Today he texts and says, great time yesterday, when do you want to get together again? I said, what do you want to do for the next date?

He texts, honestly? I think you just invite me over or you come here and we can have some wine, dinner and fuck our brains out for the holidays.

I said, no thanks, I am not into rushing things. And he says: wow, why not be an adult and enjoy yourself? We don't need to be in love.

Sigh....I find it disconcerting that grown men behave this way and since I am not into casual anything, I suppose my dating life is going to be fucked up for a long while.

Another pet peeve: just because I am on a kink site or adult site does not automatically mean I am just wanting to fuck anything that writes to me. If that was true, I would be horizontal constantly.

Whatever happened to the slow build up?

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RE: Advice on *how* to take things slow - 12/21/2010 9:53:09 AM   
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I try to remember that fools rush in where angels fear to tread.

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RE: Advice on *how* to take things slow - 12/21/2010 10:04:30 AM   
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Wow. What an awesome thread!

Since you're already in a relationship and you want to keep things on a slow burn, add middling-sized hardwood logs. By which I mean, spend more time with friends in group activities, make medium-to-long term open-ended 'nonsexual' plans like starting a business, committing to a six-moth workout regimen, or taking a class together at the local continuing education center; and thinking a lot about where you both want to be in 2-3 years. Keep the flames strong by throwing tinder on now and then; sex and fun.


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RE: Advice on *how* to take things slow - 12/21/2010 11:19:54 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: sunshinemiss

This thread reminded me of a Keats poem.  I hope you won't mind my posting it here.  Trust and taking things slow seem to be interconnected - to me at least.

best,
sunshine

For you to trust me and me to trust you,
you have to accept me and I have to accept you
the way I am and the way you are,
fully seen and deeply known,
with no need of apology –
with my body imperfections and with yours,
with my character shortcomings and yours, too….
for you are a sacred gift to me
and I am a sacred gift to you,
and gifts are to be gratefully accepted
and heartily enjoyed,
but only if you trust me and I trust you,
can we let ourselves be ourselves
and forget real or unreal barriers,
conventions or inhibitions,
as to profoundly enjoy
what we’ve been granted:
you – the gift of me,
me – the gift of you,
as deeply as our inner worlds
can take us in,
with trust
and joy.

~John Keats




Thanks for posting this, it is beautiful.

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RE: Advice on *how* to take things slow - 12/22/2010 3:58:59 AM   
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Sunshine, can you start that thread please?? I will be reading right along with the others! Past relationships, oh hell with both feet for sure, single now for close to 3 years so that hasnt worked so well for me, LOL. Though as I get older I find myself more cautious to get the that point, once there, I'm usually all-in. When I care for and trust someone enough, I want it all or I want nothing... Maybe I need to balance the two a little better than I do now.

Good Luck!

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