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submissve to slave - 12/16/2010 12:38:27 PM   
NaughtybyNight


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Status: offline 		I've met a Master on here who for all intents and purposes seems to be a perfect fit for me.  He is willing to take the time to train me and take me from a submissive to a slave and I'm grateful that he's willing to invest this time and effort in me.

I was wondering if any of you gentlemen has any advice for me on what you have done in the past and what has pleased you most about training your girls.  I want very much to please him and I thought that if I sought out other Master's experiences I might be able to plesently surprise him by doing this extra work and research,

Please respond on my profile so we can speak privately.

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RE: submissve to slave - 12/16/2010 12:43:07 PM   
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RE: submissve to slave - 12/16/2010 2:03:49 PM   
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RE: submissve to slave - 12/16/2010 2:11:59 PM   
LadyPact


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Status: offline 		I'm not a gentleman either, but I'm not seeing where the gender of the Dominant is relevant.

What's pleased Me most?  The deepening of his submission.  That's been a process in our case, as it is for some other people.  I tend to look at it the same way as some people see trust.  Most folks don't have the same level of trust in the beginning of a relationship as they do after then have been together for years and know how dedicated and faithful that person is to them.  It's not something that is instantaneous.  There's a time factor involved.


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RE: submissve to slave - 12/16/2010 2:38:54 PM   
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Status: offline 		Something is not sounding right. Has he outlined what he expects from a "slave" based on his authority?

At a munch this weekend, the group discussed the "ladder" from submissive to slave. The general consensus was there is no ladder, it's not like going from grade school to high school. It just is wiitwd. I'm still at entry level but that made sense to me.

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RE: submissve to slave - 12/16/2010 2:52:02 PM   
Aileen1968


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ORIGINAL: NaughtybyNight

I've met a Master on here who for all intents and purposes seems to be a perfect fit for me.  He is willing to take the time to train me and take me from a submissive to a slave and I'm grateful that he's willing to invest this time and effort in me.

I was wondering if any of you gentlemen has any advice for me on what you have done in the past and what has pleased you most about training your girls.  I want very much to please him and I thought that if I sought out other Master's experiences I might be able to plesently surprise him by doing this extra work and research,

Please respond on my profile so we can speak privately.

NaughtybyNight


If you want to please him then do as he says. Simple.
Take note of things he likes and things he doesn't.

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RE: submissve to slave - 12/16/2010 2:53:58 PM   
Aileen1968


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ORIGINAL: anniezz338

Something is not sounding right. Has he outlined what he expects from a "slave" based on his authority?

At a munch this weekend, the group discussed the "ladder" from submissive to slave. The general consensus was there is no ladder, it's not like going from grade school to high school. It just is wiitwd. I'm still at entry level but that made sense to me.


I see nothing wrong with this. Shore outlines everything he expects from me and it is most definitely based on his authority. His authority over me.

A munch is the last place I would go for information on this lifestyle. Just my opinion.

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RE: submissve to slave - 12/16/2010 5:09:15 PM   
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Status: offline 		What pleases me most is finding someone so naive that no matter what line of bullshit I use, I am met with wide eyed wonder. As Aileen says, all doms are competent and all you have to do simply connect with them and they will take care of the rest, I am sure this woman's master is every bit the man that Aileen's master is.

Right?

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RE: submissve to slave - 12/16/2010 5:53:09 PM   
Aileen1968


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Status: offline 		That's amazing that you got all of that from my posts. You must have special powers of perception Michael.
As for my man...she should be lucky enough to get someone like I did. 8)


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RE: submissve to slave - 12/16/2010 6:07:47 PM   
SimplyMichael


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Status: offline 		Aileen,

While I have never met him, to capture you as he has I am sure he is an amazing man, you might want to remember that just finding a dominant who isn't a moron is pretty uncommon and when you post that doing "X or Y" is okay...that most can't be trusted to not cheat, lie or steal.

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RE: submissve to slave - 12/16/2010 6:14:34 PM   
DesFIP


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Status: offline 		Find out why he insists you have to be a slave. What does that mean to him?

Unfortunately there are men with no relationship skills who seek a slave believing this way they don't have to listen to her, they don't have to care about what makes her happy or sad, that they can order her to be bisexual and magically she will become that, that they can pimp her out for money and she'll be happy to catch a std in order to pay his bills, that want to share her with all his friends no matter how she feels.

So what does he want? Are you monogamous? Is he going to claim that he doesn't have to be once you aren't a sub any longer, that instead he can fuck whoever he wants, whenever, and you don't have the right to demand he uses a condom?

I'm seeing red flags here. I hope you stop being starry eyed and start asking the hard questions before you get badly damaged.


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RE: submissve to slave - 12/16/2010 6:19:33 PM   
Aileen1968


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Status: offline 		Nah...he's really just a big dork.

I think the biggest problem within "bdsm" relationships is that people just plain forget to use basic life skills and common sense.
They get all enamored by the knight in shining armor concept and forget to use their brain.

It really is as simple as doing what he says in order to please a dominant man. At least it is for me.
But then again...all of my responses are based on my opinion and my experiences.
YMMV.

edited to add....my reference to pleasing a dominant man is not meant to be any dominant man, but the one you've connected with and are exploring a relationship with.


< Message edited by Aileen1968 -- 12/16/2010 6:21:10 PM >

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RE: submissve to slave - 12/16/2010 6:40:59 PM   
Zevar


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ORIGINAL: NaughtybyNight

I've met a Master on here who for all intents and purposes seems to be a perfect fit for me.  He is willing to take the time to train me and take me from a submissive to a slave and I'm grateful that he's willing to invest this time and effort in me.

I was wondering if any of you gentlemen has any advice for me on what you have done in the past and what has pleased you most about training your girls.  I want very much to please him and I thought that if I sought out other Master's experiences I might be able to plesently surprise him by doing this extra work and research,

Please respond on my profile so we can speak privately.

NaughtybyNight



To begin it appears by your words this man you have met is willing to offer his patience in teaching you and that you claim to be grateful for his gesture. I question why you need to seek the direction of other men’s desirous pleasures in order to please this man you claim to have met and who is willing to teach you? I would venture to say his willingness to teach you will more than likely include his desirous pleasures made quite clearly as he choices to form you unto his likings.

Why not simply listen to him, trust what he says and then go about endeavoring to bring him pleasure by way of serving him in the way that he teaches you instead of how other men teach you to please him?

I do not support the notion of learning what pleases other men in order to please this man whom you claim is for all intents and purposes seems to be a perfect fit for you. What I, for instance, find pleasing and gracefully becoming in a lady might full well not be at all pleasing to this man whom you speak of.

Likewise, other men have different desires thus variants as to what pleases them. With that said, I do undoubtedly support you to ask this man whom you mentioned herein and do as he directs you if you do choose to please him as you claim.

If the lovely submissive lady I am recently becoming acquainted with thought to ask other men how to please myself I would not take it in a manner that would be the least bit gracious. She is clear to serve myself and know of my ways requires her willingness to communicate and ask myself what brings me pleasure and then the application of what she learns in her further willingness to assert her best effort forward to prove her intentions and words.

Further, regarding your dictate to respond on your profile so there is the construct of privacy is less than pleasing to me. Hopefully you better understand what pleases one gentleman will not always please the next gentleman.

Take care!

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RE: submissve to slave - 12/17/2010 6:06:37 AM   
sunshinemiss


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quote:

ORIGINAL: NaughtybyNight

I've met a Master on here who for all intents and purposes seems to be a perfect fit for me.  He is willing to take the time to train me and take me from a submissive to a slave and I'm grateful that he's willing to invest this time and effort in me.

I was wondering if any of you gentlemen has any advice for me on what you have done in the past and what has pleased you most about training your girls.  I want very much to please him and I thought that if I sought out other Master's experiences I might be able to plesently surprise him by doing this extra work and research,

Please respond on my profile so we can speak privately.

NaughtybyNight


Golly, what a great guy to be willing to take the time to do all this!  You really should be grateful because we all know how hard it is for a woman to find a man.  It always warms my heart to see someone asking strangers how to do something that the One should be taking the time to teach them.  I'm seriously all aglow. 

don't get burnt,
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RE: submissve to slave - 12/17/2010 6:24:48 AM   
barelynangel


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Status: offline 		Sunshine, your post here is odd as only a few years ago you were pretty much doing the same thing and in the same mindset as the OP.  I remember many times i told you to stop trying to determine yourself to be a slave and simply allow the Man to guide you.  So i really don't get your sarcasm towards her.

OP, don't worry, you are actually in the same boat many have been in when the concept of becoming a slave begins.  Many people want to jump in and say okay i am going to be a slave and believe they will practice, what can i do to make it easier for him and show him how good of a slave i am.  What can i do to progress this for him.  How can i practice.  You don't.

The fact that he sees something in you and his wish is to have a slave, you need to realize he more than likely has a plan as to how he will have you reach and maintain his expectations and standards.  While your instincts is that you are ready to jump in and just do it -- don't.   Follow him, don't try and lead him into what you see the path from sub to slave as.  Learn about him, let him learn about you.  He will bring you to where he wants you to go.  Do your best to obey and when you are unsure turn TO HIM, not strangers.  He is the only one who can guide you. 

Slavery is progressive, just like life -- in fact it IS life.  Take it one day and one minute at a time because the progression is very emotional at times, and you will go through all different emotions as he pulls you deeper into enslavement.  Yes, some days you will be disobedient, some days you will be confused, and some days you may feel utterly powerful in your reactions to him and want to take over the world -- pinky and the brain syndrome i call it.

Take a deep breath and exhale and simply be.  If he is a Man who is a Master, he will know what to do and really doesn't need you to "help."  He is a Man you are following, let the relationship and trust deepen naturally as he masters you and enslaves you.

It will be hard but ask him to help you in what you are asking -- you'd be surprised at how much he probably knows you want to do.   You have a long journey ahead of you, be excited, be nervous but enjoy the ride.  Go to him, he will tell you and show you and guide you in what he wants from you.

Good luck and have fun, it really is exciting.

angel

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RE: submissve to slave - 12/17/2010 7:00:57 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Aileen1968


quote:

ORIGINAL: NaughtybyNight

I've met a Master on here who for all intents and purposes seems to be a perfect fit for me.  He is willing to take the time to train me and take me from a submissive to a slave and I'm grateful that he's willing to invest this time and effort in me.

I was wondering if any of you gentlemen has any advice for me on what you have done in the past and what has pleased you most about training your girls.  I want very much to please him and I thought that if I sought out other Master's experiences I might be able to plesently surprise him by doing this extra work and research,

Please respond on my profile so we can speak privately.

NaughtybyNight


If you want to please him then do as he says. Simple.
Take note of things he likes and things he doesn't.
Nicely said Aileen...and significant at any level of submission.  But hardly simple, whether the submissive is making an honest effort because she feels a "submissive draw" to the dominant OR dealing with her own inner struggles over yielding despite the "submissive draw".

I put it in my profile and it has held true for me and has taught me a lot about the nature of MYSELF and that of some submissives...if you state you are going to yield control, whether it be in one area or two areas or many areas, then do so.  It is understood that there are going to be struggles during the progression from the level of interest to the level of becoming this particular dominant's submissive to being this particular dominant's submissive.  But, if you state that you are going to yield control but then make it contingent on how the dominant happens to approach you that day or how you are feeling that day or what kind of mood you are in at the moment, then that is not yielding to the dominant and trusting them to do as they have said, in the way that they think---and you agreed---is best, that is yielding to your own inner dominance and desire to control the situation.

I wish you luck, NbN.  your profile states that you have 4 yrs. experience in the lifestyle but does not mention whether or not that time has been spent exploring aspects of D/s and BDSM with various dominants not your own or with at least one dominant who was your own.  The reason I state that is that I urge you to consider that the building of a D/s relationship is just like any other relationship.  Jumping headfirst into full-on slavery may work for some couples, but more likely it will be a progression.  The question I would urge you to consider and ask is "Are you ready to take the time to learn who I am before you develop your plan for ME...or are you going to use a "set" plan that you've used with others?"  The answer to that may well tell you just how easy or hard it is going to be.

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RE: submissve to slave - 12/17/2010 7:31:01 AM   
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Status: offline 		She asked for responses on her profile. Just a memo; please, continue.

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RE: submissve to slave - 12/17/2010 7:56:00 AM   
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ORIGINAL: DMFParadox

She asked for responses on her profile. Just a memo; please, continue.


And you know how well we all obey strangers, of course...

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RE: submissve to slave - 12/17/2010 8:00:42 AM   
DMFParadox


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Status: offline 		Well, every response on the forum bumps the request, so it's a win either way for her. I'm not feeling particularly negative about them, just noting that for people that feel like CMing her, she asked.

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RE: submissve to slave - 12/17/2010 5:46:13 PM   
DesFIP


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Status: offline 		Actually I don't believe she wanted comments on her profile, because she asked to be responded to privately. Which says to me she's usually on fetlife where to respond privately you have to go to the person's profile.

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