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And Coburn got considerable concessions that will save at least 2 billion and added controls that will save even more.

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Which is of course why (according to your links and citations) the democrats never offered it as a stand alone bill, except when they knew it would not be voted on. Perhaps people are dumb enought to fall for your sides political games with 911 workers. THose dumb people are called Democrats.

Also according to info you posted, this bill is about long term funding for the program passed by the Republicans years ago, not the creation of a program to elp. No one got denied help because of the Games Your side has played with the bill.

Care to point out to me where any of my links stated this?

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Which is of course why (according to your links and citations) the democrats never offered it as a stand alone bill, except when they knew it would not be voted on. Perhaps people are dumb enought to fall for your sides political games with 911 workers. THose dumb people are called Democrats.

Also according to info you posted, this bill is about long term funding for the program passed by the Republicans years ago, not the creation of a program to elp. No one got denied help because of the Games Your side has played with the bill.

Care to point out to me where any of my links stated this?

Post 23.

You really are a dumb troll.


"The bill was first introduced in February of 2009 and passed the first House vote in late April of 2009 but was killed in the Senate.

It was reintroduced and failed in the House in July of 2010. It finally passed in late September.


9/11 Health Care Bill Voted Down in the House
Jul 30, 2010 ... The 9/11 health bill, known as the Zadroga Act, failed to get the 2/3 majority necessary to pass the House Thursday.


MANHATTAN — The 9/11 health bill was shot down on Capital Hill Thursday night after failing to attain the two thirds majority necessary for passage in the House.

The bill, known as the Zadroga Act in honor of fallen 9/11 first responder James Zadroga, would guarantee the long-term operations of health care programs set up years ago for first responders and residents who were hurt or became ill in the aftermath of the terror attacks on the World Trade Center.

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Oh I'm so sorry I was lead to understand you could read and comprehend plain English.
Someone lied.

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Oh I'm so sorry I was lead to understand you could read and comprehend plain English.
Someone lied.

Careful, you are about to make the troll list.

Of course, you deserve it after taking away the g-string pic on Christmas Eve.

Firefighters and other 9/11 first responders celebrated Wednesday when Congress passed the Zadroga Act, with $4.3 billion for medical treatment and monitoring as well as compensation for economic loss, for those suffering the long-tail health effects of the Ground Zero cleanup. Passage of this bill rang down the tattered curtain on the 111th Session of Congress with what New York Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand called "a Christmas miracle."

The virtual unanimity of the vote came after the Senate rejected a far more expensive version of the measure ($7.4 billion) because of Republican opposition. The lower $4.3 billion total allowed deficit hawk Sen. Tom Coburn to support the bill while saying, "It is not compassionate to help one group while robbing future generations of opportunity."

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I'll say again: those that simply wish to "blame it on those greedy Republicans" owe themselves and their country the favor of actually attempting to understand the political games that both parties play.  In this case, what responsibility did the Democrats have on delaying the bill for so long, and why the Republicans may have opposed it at times (other than that "they are evil bastards!").

Firm

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FR:

So, back on topic ...

The bill passed.

Good article about it in Slate (from last week):

Why the 9/11 Bill Is Fair Enough
Even if it's not perfectly just.
By John Culhane
Posted Thursday, Dec. 23, 2010, at 5:29 PM ET

Firefighters and other 9/11 first responders celebrated Wednesday when Congress passed the Zadroga Act, with $4.3 billion for medical treatment and monitoring as well as compensation for economic loss, for those suffering the long-tail health effects of the Ground Zero cleanup. Passage of this bill rang down the tattered curtain on the 111th Session of Congress with what New York Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand called "a Christmas miracle."

The virtual unanimity of the vote came after the Senate rejected a far more expensive version of the measure ($7.4 billion) because of Republican opposition. The lower $4.3 billion total allowed deficit hawk Sen. Tom Coburn to support the bill while saying, "It is not compassionate to help one group while robbing future generations of opportunity."

I'll say again: those that simply wish to "blame it on those greedy Republicans" owe themselves and their country the favor of actually attempting to understand the political games that both parties play.  In this case, what responsibility did the Democrats have on delaying the bill for so long, and why the Republicans may have opposed it at times (other than that "they are evil bastards!").

Firm

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I'll say again: those that simply wish to "blame it on those greedy Republicans" owe themselves and their country the favor of actually attempting to understand the political games that both parties play.  In this case, what responsibility did the Democrats have on delaying the bill for so long, and why the Republicans may have opposed it at times (other than that "they are evil bastards!").

Firm

And I'll say it again, you haven't had the first clue about anything regarding this bill from the start of this discussion and you still don't.

You ask an open-ended question implying somehow that Democrats were also at fault for delaying the bill.

Care to offer some type of proof, or even a valid argument, to substantiate this somehow?

While you are at it, maybe you can also explain what the Republicans would have done if they didn't get their tax break for the wealthy extended.  Would they have continued to obstruct this legislation and would you have just shrugged your shoulders and said "oh well, that's politics"?