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RE: America is a Purple Country - 12/20/2010 8:26:06 PM   
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I know America is probaly the most conservative nation in the Western world.Some part's of America are more liberal than other's.The Northeastern part of the USA is fairly progressive.




Depends on your definition of conservative - on demand abortion and porn that shows genitals are illegal in most of Australia.

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RE: America is a Purple Country - 12/20/2010 8:50:32 PM   
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Status: offline 		Your interpretation of it may be that my calling you an idiot automatically makes you right, but I doubt many put much weight on your interpretation of anything, because you're an idiot. Anyone sensible, upon reading your quote (and quoting you is what I responded with, nothing further being needed), would interpret it as some random web person calling an idiot an idiot for typing something idiotic.
And Hitler was voted in, learn some damn history.

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RE: America is a Purple Country - 12/20/2010 11:52:08 PM   
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Your interpretation of it may be that my calling you an idiot automatically makes you right, but I doubt many put much weight on your interpretation of anything, because you're an idiot. Anyone sensible, upon reading your quote (and quoting you is what I responded with, nothing further being needed), would interpret it as some random web person calling an idiot an idiot for typing something idiotic.
And Hitler was voted in, learn some damn history.




You learn history:

Nazi Party lost in 1930 and attempted to form a coalition with the communists.
Hitler ran for President in 1932 and lost to von Hindenburg
von Hindenberg APPOINTED him Chancellor
When von Hindenburg died Hitler was APPOINTED President

The only thing he ever won was a non-binding plebiscite after a campaign of violence that suppressed opposition parties.

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RE: America is a Purple Country - 12/21/2010 5:06:14 AM   
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Care to enlighten us just which "centrists"...or for that matter, further-right...posters on here you have seen espousing the same points of view as Pierce, let alone worse ones?

The cucky twins, poopey and Sanity for a start.

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RE: America is a Purple Country - 12/21/2010 5:08:52 AM   
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Status: offline 		progressive = confiscating other peoples' wealth and giving it out to people who don't work. How words can deceive. I see that as regressive and frankly (no, not BAWNY fwankly) we don't have the money nor patience for that nonsense any longer.

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RE: America is a Purple Country - 12/21/2010 5:13:51 AM   
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RE: America is a Purple Country - 12/21/2010 7:19:01 AM   
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Care to enlighten us just which "centrists"...or for that matter, further-right...posters on here you have seen espousing the same points of view as Pierce, let alone worse ones?

The cucky twins, poopey and Sanity for a start.
Really?  Popeye and Sanity, eh?  O.K. moonhead, you say they espouse his type of philosophies:  I challenge you further then to show me one post of theirs...or any other person on here who has claimed to be centrist or even a bit further to the right of center...that espouses anything near pantheism, white supremacy, the hanging of racial traitors, etc.  If you can say it, surely you can back it up, can't you?

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RE: America is a Purple Country - 12/21/2010 9:01:31 AM   
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Status: offline 		As all you know about Pierce is a load of hearsay you've found on google, what would be the point in discussing it?

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RE: America is a Purple Country - 12/21/2010 11:54:25 AM   
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Status: offline 		That's how the system worked. You may as well claim no US president is ever voted in because they're chosen by electoral college, not direct vote.

David Cameron....was he not voted in?
You're just talking crap, as usual.


@William Luther Pierce, I've seen people on here suggesting nuking mecca, which is.....I think.....probably more extreme than what he suggested...but it's a matter of opinion really, is white supremacy more or less extreme than lizardmen-are-running-the-nwo-ism? I don't know too much about Pierce anyways, mebe he did want to nuke various places.
On a related note, I have seen claimed independants on here blasted for being too right wing.....people seeming to think that independant must mean they should consider voting Democrat. This mildly bugs me, they could easily be independant but too extreme right to consider voting Democrat. It's even easier to explain in a multi-party nation.....I'm independant, but I'm never going to vote SNP. That doesn't mean I'm not really independant, just means I don't support their aims.

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RE: America is a Purple Country - 12/21/2010 12:49:49 PM   
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Status: offline 		A lot of American independents are independent because they don't feel that the Republicans are hard enough right to suit them, now that you mention that one...

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RE: America is a Purple Country - 12/22/2010 7:43:30 AM   
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As all you know about Pierce is a load of hearsay you've found on google, what would be the point in discussing it?
Everything on Google about Pierce is hearsay?  Everything?  The stuff I brought to this topic is true.  Stay focused on what I brought, Moonhead and either back up your claims or retract them...

Or are you another of those leftists who likes to make wild, inflammatory, emotion-laden statements designed to make folks look as bad as you possibly can and then, not back them up by using excuses?

And the point would be the fact that YOU made the claims against "centrists" and was even so bold as to name names...now back up your claims.


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RE: America is a Purple Country - 12/22/2010 8:29:41 AM   
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Status: offline 		Read the Turner Diaries, and then we can discuss which of the "independents" in here take a similar line towards the existence of a federal government and/or Jews as Pierce did.

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RE: America is a Purple Country - 12/22/2010 12:32:25 PM   
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Read the Turner Diaries, and then we can discuss which of the "independents" in here take a similar line towards the existence of a federal government and/or Jews as Pierce did.
Read it...way back when it "was" news.  Again...show me a post of Popeye's or Sanity's or any other centrist that comes close to espousing a hatred of Jews or a hatred of blacks or a belief in hanging "racial traitors". 

As to the existence of the federal government...Not many deny the need for one but the level of its' involvement in our lives is where most of the contention lies and is it not true that, in your eyes, any opposition to governmental intrusion in our lives is "far right-wing"?

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RE: America is a Purple Country - 12/22/2010 1:46:10 PM   
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As to the existence of the federal government...Not many deny the need for one but the level of its' involvement in our lives is where most of the contention lies and is it not true that, in your eyes, any opposition to governmental intrusion in our lives is "far right-wing"?

Not even remotely no, but don't let the facts stand in your way of a good diss. You haven't been able to provide any citations to support that, I note.

Pierce's insistence that the the corrupt ZOG has to be done away with by real Americans is highly similar to the outrage over having to pay taxes that a lot of the "independents" are coming out with. Sorry if you don't like it, but that's more of a fact than your conviction that I'm favour of everything government does.

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RE: America is a Purple Country - 12/22/2010 2:08:55 PM   
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RE: America is a Purple Country - 12/22/2010 3:22:35 PM   
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< Message edited by Moonhead -- 12/22/2010 3:24:09 PM >

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RE: America is a Purple Country - 12/22/2010 7:26:59 PM   
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Status: offline 		This is a very good site for Charles and everyone else on collarme..'realclearpolitics.com. This country is RED,,,

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RE: America is a Purple Country - 12/22/2010 8:21:05 PM   
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Status: offline 		I may point out, that neither right not left, is right enough to force their views on the other. This is the beuty of democracy. We are free to have our own beliefs. But we are also free from having other beliefs forced on us.

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RE: America is a Purple Country - 12/22/2010 8:44:07 PM   
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ORIGINAL: CerVeza

progressive = confiscating other peoples' wealth and giving it out to people who don't work. How words can deceive. I see that as regressive and frankly (no, not BAWNY fwankly) we don't have the money nor patience for that nonsense any longer.


Per the definitions I've heard a progressive tax by definition taxes those at higher income levels more than those at lower income levels, while a regressive tax does the opposite,  As an example, a tax on investments or on yachts would be a progressive tax, while one on food, especially the cheap starchy sort, would be considered a regressive tax.

My definition approaches them as different gradations of taxes, while yours seems to feel that any tax whatsoever is progressive if lower income people receive the benefits of it. That sounds like income redistribution, not progressive taxation. 


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RE: America is a Purple Country - 12/23/2010 12:32:48 AM   
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The US is a right-wing country, the only choice you have is a matter of degree


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