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RE: America is a Purple Country - 12/23/2010 7:31:28 AM

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As to the existence of the federal government...Not many deny the need for one but the level of its' involvement in our lives is where most of the contention lies and is it not true that, in your eyes, any opposition to governmental intrusion in our lives is "far right-wing"?

Not even remotely no, but don't let the facts stand in your way of a good diss. You haven't been able to provide any citations to support that, I note.

Citations? Anyone reading the P/R boards can see your affection for liberal policies, moonhead. This post, for example: "How about the obvious corollary to that one:
Did you give a toss about the conditions under which detained prisoners were held when the chimp was still in power, or is this yet another case of "anything to diss the Kenyan with" from somebody who's still sulking because Sorebutt and Barbie lost the election the other year? ..."certainly shows your 'affection" for Bush and other conservatives.

But this interaction between you and me did not start out as a discussion of your ideological viewpoint versus mine. It started out with your "bold" statement that the posts of "centrists" on here, such as Popeye and Sanity, made William Luther Pierce "look like a liberal". You have yet to provide one post from either of the two you mentioned or from any other centrist to prove the truth of your denigrating assertion. Instead you have done the "progressive two-step" by trying to turn this around to anything but what you originally stated.

Show some guts. Back up your assertion.

Pierce's insistence that the the corrupt ZOG has to be done away with by real Americans is highly similar to the outrage over having to pay taxes that a lot of the "independents" are coming out with. Sorry if you don't like it, but that's more of a fact than your conviction that I'm favour of everything government does.

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RE: America is a Purple Country - 12/23/2010 7:52:21 AM

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So you can provide examples of me supporting anything and everything your government does, then? You need to show your own cards if you want to call somebody's bluff. Put up or shut up. I already have:

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Pierce's insistence that the the corrupt ZOG has to be done away with by real Americans is highly similar to the outrage over having to pay taxes that a lot of the "independents" are coming out with. Sorry if you don't like it, but that's more of a fact than your conviction that I'm favour of everything government does.

It's probably more of the board than the cuckys, Sanity and poopey in those terms.

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RE: America is a Purple Country - 12/24/2010 12:44:28 PM

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So you can provide examples of me supporting anything and everything your government does, then? You need to show your own cards if you want to call somebody's bluff. Put up or shut up. I already have:

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Pierce's insistence that the the corrupt ZOG has to be done away with by real Americans is highly similar to the outrage over having to pay taxes that a lot of the "independents" are coming out with. Sorry if you don't like it, but that's more of a fact than your conviction that I'm favour of everything government does.

It's probably more of the board than the cuckys, Sanity and poopey in those terms.

I DID put up by providing one of your posts. Now then...you PUT up or shut up. Provide a POST by Sanity or Popeye or ANY centrist approaching Pierce's assertion that the government has been taken over and corrupted by Jews. You and I and anyone who has read Pierce knows that his MAIN reason for opposing taxation is his fixation on a ZO-government. Now prove that it is Popeye's, Sanity's or any other centrist with a POST from those you have named.

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RE: America is a Purple Country - 12/24/2010 1:22:27 PM

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So you can provide examples of me supporting anything and everything your government does, then? You need to show your own cards if you want to call somebody's bluff. Put up or shut up. I already have:

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Pierce's insistence that the the corrupt ZOG has to be done away with by real Americans is highly similar to the outrage over having to pay taxes that a lot of the "independents" are coming out with. Sorry if you don't like it, but that's more of a fact than your conviction that I'm favour of everything government does.

It's probably more of the board than the cuckys, Sanity and poopey in those terms.

I DID put up by providing one of your posts. Now then...you PUT up or shut up. Provide a POST by Sanity or Popeye or ANY centrist approaching Pierce's assertion that the government has been taken over and corrupted by Jews. You and I and anyone who has read Pierce knows that his MAIN reason for opposing taxation is his fixation on a ZO-government. Now prove that it is Popeye's, Sanity's or any other centrist with a POST from those you have named.

CD, he can't post anything like that because it doesn't exist except in his little head.
Also, I've never even heard of this "Pierce" guy.
This is typical of the leftists, make a claim then screw.
Any minority group that allies themselves with leftists is foolish, they are there only to be used by the leftists.

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RE: America is a Purple Country - 12/24/2010 2:32:44 PM

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So you can provide examples of me supporting anything and everything your government does, then? You need to show your own cards if you want to call somebody's bluff. Put up or shut up. I already have:

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Pierce's insistence that the the corrupt ZOG has to be done away with by real Americans is highly similar to the outrage over having to pay taxes that a lot of the "independents" are coming out with. Sorry if you don't like it, but that's more of a fact than your conviction that I'm favour of everything government does.

It's probably more of the board than the cuckys, Sanity and poopey in those terms.

I DID put up by providing one of your posts. Now then...you PUT up or shut up. Provide a POST by Sanity or Popeye or ANY centrist approaching Pierce's assertion that the government has been taken over and corrupted by Jews. You and I and anyone who has read Pierce knows that his MAIN reason for opposing taxation is his fixation on a ZO-government. Now prove that it is Popeye's, Sanity's or any other centrist with a POST from those you have named.

Prove anybody I named is a centrist.

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RE: America is a Purple Country - 12/27/2010 12:39:09 PM

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So you can provide examples of me supporting anything and everything your government does, then? You need to show your own cards if you want to call somebody's bluff. Put up or shut up. I already have:

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Pierce's insistence that the the corrupt ZOG has to be done away with by real Americans is highly similar to the outrage over having to pay taxes that a lot of the "independents" are coming out with. Sorry if you don't like it, but that's more of a fact than your conviction that I'm favour of everything government does.

It's probably more of the board than the cuckys, Sanity and poopey in those terms.

I DID put up by providing one of your posts. Now then...you PUT up or shut up. Provide a POST by Sanity or Popeye or ANY centrist approaching Pierce's assertion that the government has been taken over and corrupted by Jews. You and I and anyone who has read Pierce knows that his MAIN reason for opposing taxation is his fixation on a ZO-government. Now prove that it is Popeye's, Sanity's or any other centrist with a POST from those you have named.

Prove anybody I named is a centrist.

I didn't claim they were. They might be or they might not be. YOU are the one who claimed that they claim to be centrist. YOU were the one who stated that they are not centrist, that their views make Pierce look like a liberal. Now prove it. Stop dodging being called on your assertion and prove it or shut up.

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RE: America is a Purple Country - 12/27/2010 1:04:11 PM

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I didn't claim they were. They might be or they might not be. YOU are the one who claimed that they claim to be centrist. YOU were the one who stated that they are not centrist, that their views make Pierce look like a liberal. Now prove it. Stop dodging being called on your assertion and prove it or shut up.

He'll never acknowledge that he has been hoisted on his own petard.

Game, set, match.

Good job, CD.

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RE: America is a Purple Country - 12/27/2010 1:06:04 PM

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You go first: find an example of me saying that anything and everything your government does is acceptable, and I might waste my time digging out a few examples of other people's gibberish.
Or are you going to claim that you didn't say that while offering no evidence?

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RE: America is a Purple Country - 12/27/2010 1:45:59 PM

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You go first: find an example of me saying that anything and everything your government does is acceptable, and I might waste my time digging out a few examples of other people's gibberish.
Or are you going to claim that you didn't say that while offering no evidence?

The commonly accepted standards of rhetoric demand that the person who first makes a claim has the responsibility to back up the claim, not the other way around.

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RE: America is a Purple Country - 12/27/2010 1:57:20 PM

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Nothing to do with logos, pathos and ethos, then?
If CD's going to throw a shitfit about me failing to offer evidence, making extravagant claims like that without substantiation doesn't help his case any, I'm afraid.
If he can't be arsed to back up what he's coming out with, I'm not wasting my time looking for soundbites either. If he can demonstrate that I've defended the Kenyan's government, however loathsome its stance is, then I might feel obliged to make the effort.

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RE: America is a Purple Country - 12/27/2010 2:13:56 PM

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Nothing to do with logos, pathos and ethos, then?
If CD's going to throw a shitfit

You are the one "throwing a shitfit".

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about me failing to offer evidence, making extravagant claims like that without substantiation

You are the one making "extravagant claims" and "failing to offer evidence".

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doesn't help his case any, I'm afraid.

Your case, I'm afraid.

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If he can't be arsed to back up what he's coming out with, I'm not wasting my time looking for soundbites either.

If you can't be "arsed" to back up what you are coming out with, then why should he - or anyone else - waste his time looking for soundbites either?

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If he can demonstrate that I've defended the Kenyan's government, however loathsome its stance is, then I might feel obliged to make the effort.

The claim you made were that two of the regular "conservative" CM forum posters were to the right of a rabid anti-Semite. When asked what proof you had to back up your claim, you have constantly attempted to shift the debate to something else.

Either just disappear from the thread (quietly slinking away), or show your proof, or man-up and admit you are wrong.

Slinking away will do nothing to salvage anyone's opinion of you, but it will contain the damage.

Showing proof will win you your point, and respect.

Admitting you are wrong will lose you your point, but win you respect.

Continuing the track you are on is choice four: continue to add damage what little respect that anyone has for you, and convince most that you do not have the ability or desire to be an adult, and that any of your opinions are immediately suspect and in need of challenge, or simply ignoring.

It's always been your choice to how you respond. Right now, you are choosing the worst possible option in your responses.

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RE: America is a Purple Country - 12/27/2010 3:19:11 PM

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I am against the Death Penalty, I am for most forms of Affirmative Action as long as the candidates in question are deserving of the position give or take, I am pro welfare and food stamps as long as it does not become a way of life. In fact, I think straight cash should be given in lieu of food stamps. I am a stalwart believer in freedom of speech, freedom of and from religion, innocent until proven guilty, the ability to vote once one has paid their dept to society and provided they are not on probation or parole, government regulation and oversight into business , the need of government oversight to protect the environment from pollution and exploitation and rational immigration reform that recognizes there are 18+ million people in the United States illegally and we cannot send all or even most of them home... these alone should be enough to claim the mantle of moderate... except...

I am pro life, pro Israel and pro 2nd Amendment.

Ergo.... the labels crowd (and this lifestyle is RIFE with insistent labelers) insist I am right wing.

You tell me?

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