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BDSM in a Calculus Shell - 12/19/2010 4:49:48 PM   
tyrasia


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Over my years of lurking here i have read a great many number of threads about something verses something else. Master ~vs~ Dom, sub ~vs~ slave, what is edge play and other threads in which boundaries are trying to be defined. To me this seemed useless in terms of getting a consensual answer. Not useless for getting to know people however. What i am about to say is merely my opinion and i do not expect anyone to agree with me cuz i know i am weird. But here is how i see it in my head for what it is worth. Hopefully this is an appropriate forum to post this, if not i beg the mods to move it to there. Thanks in advance.

Personally i think there are 3-D graphs which can relate a curve of how people enjoy each BDSM activity. The distribution and shape might even and probably is thinking about it, different for each activity. Some common things like bondage may have the beginning of this 'double derivative' (cuz that is what it was called when i learned how this shape moves), at a higher point, meaning more people 'do' it. Letting the one side of this shape be length of time, we have it low on one end for people who can't be tied up for long, and the other end is people who remain tied for days. The other side of the shape therefore would be magnitude or intensity. Does someone like merely handcuffs or do they want all the rope in Texas? This creates a nice curvy plane.....thinks of where she was going with this....

Oh yes...so submission, there is maybe the "what you should do if you're a sub" and "to whom you should do them" lines. On one corner for example are those who feel they ought to let perfect strangers (the "whoms") rape them (the "whats") with no pre-negotiation and such. Many in the General Community call these doormats. Another of these four corners might be those who are more careful about the "whats" but still will do all the "whoms". The next corner is the ones who will do limited things, with limited people, in all likelihood these would be a lot of subs. This leaves the last corner, where someone will do many if not all things, with a limited number of people.

Now note, that the reasons are not included here; they would be a separate graph. The reason the "whats" or "whoms" are limited could be anything. For me the reason the "whoms" are limited is because i don't feel like i ‘crave’ or 'need' to serve women, and not all men. However some men have this "Thing" (i am sure there is a graph for that too) and this "Thing" is like a reaction to whatever 'thing' i have, and with those Men, i can be swayed from my own morality, desires, esteem, etc. Those Men can have me do anything.

This is the picture in my mind. When I read a thread on 1 ~VS~ 2, every poster if they state a preference or opinion is a dot on that graph. They all fit, they all are right. This is a world where there is a place for everyone, and room for change. Afterall that is what calculus is all about…..oh and wiiwd too. <3

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Andrew's tyr

(edited to add 'it' in pgh 2, ln 2, and add sentence 3 in pgh 3)

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RE: BDSM in a Calculus Shell - 12/19/2010 4:57:06 PM   
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I love this stuff that we do, but always hated math. So I don't need to fit what we do into a graph or pie chart.

But hey, whatever floats your boat around here!!

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RE: BDSM in a Calculus Shell - 12/19/2010 5:17:05 PM   
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Calculus...almost didn't get my degree because of that class...that was just painful.

I can see what your saying. We all fit somewhere or the line wouldn't be there.

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RE: BDSM in a Calculus Shell - 12/19/2010 5:29:29 PM   
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Geez, and I thought I was a geek!

Sounds like more than three dimensions to me.  Just sayin'.

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RE: BDSM in a Calculus Shell - 12/19/2010 5:39:24 PM   
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this one offers You greetings Master DarkSteven,

You are right, i didn't think about the time aspect, that would indeed make it 4-D when time is involved. :) Thank You for Your correction.

this one wishes You well Master DarkSteven,

Andrew's tyr

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RE: BDSM in a Calculus Shell - 12/19/2010 9:58:33 PM   
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Thanks tyr--
So maybe to use another math analogy--
All of us here are essentially polynomials.  We have a constant (we're all kinky), we all have our variables ("I'm a sub, masochist, domme, etc.) and we all have our operations of either subtraction (hard limits), addition (supplemental kinks  ie: "I'm also into....") or multiplication (combination of identities/activities)

Devise a numeric value system to each activity/identity and then graph these polynomials, and you'll have your 6 different graph shapes (6 degrees of kink).

And yes. I'm a bit of a nerd too. Such is life.

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RE: BDSM in a Calculus Shell - 12/19/2010 11:30:39 PM   
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tyrasia, you're freaking me out over here. Now I'm going to go dream about being trapped in a giant curvy graph.

But cool point, and definitely a new, fun thing to throw at people who come in and insist that there's One True Way.

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RE: BDSM in a Calculus Shell - 12/20/2010 4:27:53 AM   
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I've seen somewhere a venn graph of wiitwd. But even that had fallacies. Not everything can be correlated.

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RE: BDSM in a Calculus Shell - 12/20/2010 5:26:12 AM   
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Me+her=her suffering + my ecstasy.


There's an equation that works.


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RE: BDSM in a Calculus Shell - 12/22/2010 5:23:08 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: hausboy

Thanks tyr--
So maybe to use another math analogy--
All of us here are essentially polynomials.  We have a constant (we're all kinky), we all have our variables ("I'm a sub, masochist, domme, etc.) and we all have our operations of either subtraction (hard limits), addition (supplemental kinks  ie: "I'm also into....") or multiplication (combination of identities/activities)

Devise a numeric value system to each activity/identity and then graph these polynomials, and you'll have your 6 different graph shapes (6 degrees of kink).

And yes. I'm a bit of a nerd too. Such is life.



I think I am a tesseract. But that's only because I can't visualize a polynominal.
(link warning: watching objects spin into the fourth dimmension can make one a bit naseous.)

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RE: BDSM in a Calculus Shell - 12/22/2010 8:07:34 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: CaringandReal


quote:

ORIGINAL: hausboy

Thanks tyr--
So maybe to use another math analogy--
All of us here are essentially polynomials.  We have a constant (we're all kinky), we all have our variables ("I'm a sub, masochist, domme, etc.) and we all have our operations of either subtraction (hard limits), addition (supplemental kinks  ie: "I'm also into....") or multiplication (combination of identities/activities)

Devise a numeric value system to each activity/identity and then graph these polynomials, and you'll have your 6 different graph shapes (6 degrees of kink).

And yes. I'm a bit of a nerd too. Such is life.



I think I am a tesseract. But that's only because I can't visualize a polynominal.
(link warning: watching objects spin into the fourth dimmension can make one a bit naseous.)


A polynomial is one of those basic algebraic equations with multiple variables, a constant and a function:
x squared - 4x + 3

Tesseract: ....Ah.....haven't heard that term in a long time  I take it you're a Madelaine L'Engle fan, then perhaps?

and I know EXACTLY what you mean about the 4th dim.objects.  I find the animated 4-cube image on Wiki absolutely mesmerizing.  And disorienting. 

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RE: BDSM in a Calculus Shell - 12/24/2010 6:56:40 PM   
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additional dimensions are easy.

A line is one dimension; a square is two; a cube is three. Put a bunch of cubes (3-d representational coordinate systems) on a line, duplicate points in each cube when it exists on the 4th axis. Boom; done.

Five dimensions? use a plane for one and two, and 3dcoords for 3,4,and 5. Extend the representation ad infinitum; 7 dimensions is a line of cubes of cubes.

Ok, so maybe that's not crazy easy, but it's easier than trying to 'visualize' what everybody else tries to make voodoo shapes out of.


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RE: BDSM in a Calculus Shell - 12/24/2010 6:59:57 PM   
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OP, if you ever make those representations, I want to see it. By the way, it wouldn't be four dimensions because of time.

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