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RE: diff between a Mistress & a Domme - 1/20/2011 5:22:51 AM

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What I don't understand is how and why 'mistress' came to be used to refer to a man's extra-marital girlfriend. Odd.

Peon,
See definition #4 in my above quote out of Webster's dictionary. That was one of the main and most common English definitions for the word Mistress. Not odd, that is actual history.

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RE: diff between a Mistress & a Domme - 1/20/2011 5:48:00 AM

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I saw that - it was exactly what prompted my comment, in fact. What's odd to me is that the ideas of a dominating, controlling woman and one who is in authority, on the one hand, and a 'married man's bit on the side', on the other, came to be expressed by the same word.

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RE: diff between a Mistress & a Domme - 1/20/2011 5:59:44 AM

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So many of the younger generation only associate Mistress with BDSM and being the authoritative figure. Prior to the late 60's the word Mistress was common to be the girl on the side and had nothing to do with BDSM.

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RE: diff between a Mistress & a Domme - 1/20/2011 6:11:08 AM

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I saw that - it was exactly what prompted my comment, in fact. What's odd to me is that the ideas of a dominating, controlling woman and one who is in authority, on the one hand, and a 'married man's bit on the side', on the other, came to be expressed by the same word.

I think it dates back to the middle ages, as in "Mistress of his heart" was the woman he loved from afar (the whole courtly love principle), the whole concept of marrying for love is a relatively new one, marriages were usually dynastic decisions, over time it then was used to less "noble" feelings and the "bit on the side", a bit like "gay" used to be used for happy, now it's got a slightly different meaning.

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RE: diff between a Mistress & a Domme - 1/20/2011 6:29:50 AM

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I think it dates back to the middle ages, as in "Mistress of his heart" was the woman he loved from afar (the whole courtly love principle), the whole concept of marrying for love is a relatively new one, marriages were usually dynastic decisions, over time it then was used to less "noble" feelings and the "bit on the side", a bit like "gay" used to be used for happy, now it's got a slightly different meaning.

Yep, 'mistress of his heart'. That fits, Lady C - ta. I guess I could have done some googling to find out, but I was too lazy.

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RE: diff between a Mistress & a Domme - 1/20/2011 6:39:58 AM

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Peon, do a google, as I said I was only guessing and applying a bit of the usually useless stuff I learned at uni, the meanings of words can change over time but that would make the most sense without digging deeper...

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RE: diff between a Mistress & a Domme - 1/24/2011 5:38:47 PM

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A Mistress will dismiss you from service for using the word "diff" in her presence at the table.

A Domme will begin the inquisition of why you used the word "diff" with a cat-o-ninetails,
while you're tied to the table.

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RE: diff between a Mistress & a Domme - 1/25/2011 11:08:18 AM

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Mistress would be a semantic for someone you respect and socially give some power exchange to.

Domme comes from another word..
Domina : someone paid to spank or deliver a S/M service to a paying customer in a brothel pro-domina type capacity.
but the word sometimes can be used as a semantic for a domme who does not have a power exchange type agreement with you in which case she is not your Mistress.. but a Domme in your circle of friends.

again its wording.. like asking for a soda in different parts of the USA..
Coke, Dr.Pepper, Mr.Pibb, Pop,Pepsi, Soda, its the same thing but if you ask for a soda in ohio they will give you a Ice Cream.

I don't think "Domina" is typically used to refer to someone paid to render services. It seems to me to be used quite interchangeably with "Domme."

And most of us lowly bumpkins here in Ohio know that a "soda" is a carbonated soft drink, and not ice cream.

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RE: diff between a Mistress & a Domme - 1/25/2011 11:54:22 AM

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Well hello Spy! Another Ohioan on the board!