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RE: Why Subs Top from the Bottom - 12/24/2010 4:38:45 AM   
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These two individuals, though mis-labeled as to who is actually dominant, make a perfect combination on Collarme.com...because the so-called submissive is there to take the pain that the so-called dominant has never been able to.


That was one of my fave parts, strangely enough most sadist I know tend to have a rather high pain tolerance (not a clue why, but it seems to be linked together fairly often) and most dominants worth their salt tend to test drive things themselves to know what they are dishing out... But I guess being responsible is also a submissive thing...

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Here's how it starts. One of us is tied down. Who? I'll let you decide? The other provides a thorough massage, with full body stimulation, including happy ending, orally applied.


Tie me down, turn me on and give me a BJ, that doesn't really make one submissive, applying the same doesn't make one dominant, that's not even kinky, that's just vanilla sex...

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RE: Why Subs Top from the Bottom - 12/24/2010 5:19:30 AM   
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well well. Nilla sex doesn't involve the "tie me down part".... Maybe call it "slightly kinky sex"?

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RE: Why Subs Top from the Bottom - 12/24/2010 5:40:53 AM   
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I'd say most nilla people have tied people to the bed and they wouldn't consider that BDSM or kinky but just spicing it up somewhat. I think it's a bit of a myth that vanilla people only have sex in the dark and in the missionary position ;)

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RE: Why Subs Top from the Bottom - 12/24/2010 7:54:55 AM   
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what LadyC said!

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RE: Why Subs Top from the Bottom - 12/24/2010 8:14:37 AM   
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Just read the profile since the post was removed. Another guy making sweeping generalizations to fit his parameters of what he is seeking.

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RE: Why Subs Top from the Bottom - 12/24/2010 8:19:57 AM   
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Because otherwise, it would be no fun thwarting their desires?

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RE: Why Subs Top from the Bottom - 12/24/2010 8:25:29 AM   
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Because they still have teeth left?

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RE: Why Subs Top from the Bottom - 12/24/2010 9:59:22 AM   
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I'll be the first to admit it, I got completely lost with all the "so-called"'s. That little diatribe about dominants and submissives was more confusing than a TIVO instruction booklet written in Swahili.

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RE: Why Subs Top from the Bottom - 12/24/2010 10:32:28 AM   
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I read the journal entry since i got here too late for the original OP. lol He certainly seems to make generalized assumptions with a closed mind. As others have said...no wonder he's still looking.

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RE: Why Subs Top from the Bottom - 12/24/2010 11:04:44 AM   
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Ohhh come on here... everybody knows that all Doms are 24/7 xBox playing bullies which need to be topped and put back in their humble place by subbies. How else will they set down the Game Controller long enough to pick up a flogger, or fuck?


Shit, you mean he isn't twue because he doesn't play video games> Damn, and all this time I thought he was the real deal.

Besides nobody my age I know can operate a game controller.


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RE: Why Subs Top from the Bottom - 12/24/2010 11:20:47 AM   
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Duh?


Quoted for truth!!!!! 

Seriously???  Really????  *snort*

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RE: Why Subs Top from the Bottom - 12/24/2010 12:04:18 PM   
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The journal entry cracks me the fuck up... because I'm SadoMaso. What LadyC posted resonates well with me. The bit about having a high pain tolerance and test driving things out (ditto on that for me). Different types of pain on different parts of the body, a wider contrast of sensations to work with. My sadist side is just one of many facets to who and what I am as a human being (regardless of labels or titles).

It's rather amusing to read broad stroke generalizations by another person on this site, when they have no idea in hell the paths that other people have walked or are walking in life. ie, Where they expect All Dominants or submissives to jump into and fit nice into some stereotype box...they've opened up and placed on the floor... (Everybody please jump into your appropriate pre-labeled box, so we can close and seal the damn things up and put an end to the differences and debates).

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RE: Why Subs Top from the Bottom - 12/24/2010 12:18:48 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Whiplashsmile4

The journal entry cracks me the fuck up... because I'm SadoMaso. What LadyC posted resonates well with me. The bit about having a high pain tolerance and test driving things out (ditto on that for me). Different types of pain on different parts of the body, a wider contrast of sensations to work with. My sadist side is just one of many facets to who and what I am as a human being (regardless of labels or titles).

It's rather amusing to read broad stroke generalizations by another person on this site, when they have no idea in hell the paths that other people have walked or are walking in life. ie, Where they expect All Dominants or submissives to jump into and fit nice into some stereotype box...they've opened up and placed on the floor... (Everybody please jump into your appropriate pre-labeled box, so we can close and seal the damn things up and put an end to the differences and debates).


I readily admit CBT was never anything I could test drive myself on me ;) Actually I don't think I'm maso (unless you count martial arts and some of the people I work with as a sign for being a maso) but my other half recently started a conversation with "Do you think you're a sadist because you have such a high pain tolerance?" It has nothing to do with being tough or anything, it's just my nervous system and pain receptors are possibly differently wired, some things I just don't feel that much or they don't feel as painful. I don't enjoy pain (unless it's sore muscles and going over that pain threshold when it comes to sports - but more to get to that place where you get the high from endorphins) and I consider it a weird quirk that I don't feel it that acute (apart from dentists and needles - any attempt to take blood... As bad luck has it I am 0 neg, so it's more or less my duty to give blood, but usually accompanied by a faint), but one of my best friends in NYC is also a sadist and she's the same, incredibly high pain tolerance... For me the whole thing about test driving is more of a curiosity how some new implement does feel, and I can't say "You got to take <x amount> of strokes/lashes/shocks" and I don't even have the slightest clue how it feels myself.

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RE: Why Subs Top from the Bottom - 12/24/2010 6:23:59 PM   
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What a two-dimensional transposition of what I said. No wonder I removed this post. No one understood it, preferring to understand what they hoped I'd said. Casting pearls before swine is never a bright event.

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RE: Why Subs Top from the Bottom - 12/24/2010 6:36:30 PM   
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Yes, and you are so much better then everyone else here.

Feel better now?

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RE: Why Subs Top from the Bottom - 12/24/2010 6:39:45 PM   
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Sounds like Jeopardy. What is duh? Ok, my guess is... What is because the top lets them?

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RE: Why Subs Top from the Bottom - 12/24/2010 6:45:28 PM   
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ORIGINAL: wulfenstraat

What a two-dimensional transposition of what I said. No wonder I removed this post. No one understood it, preferring to understand what they hoped I'd said. Casting pearls before swine is never a bright event.


Perhaps what you wrote did not come out as you intended, but in that case you should be more careful in choosing your words.

However, your characterisations of the dominant don't match with any that I have met and could not be further from the truth in terms of any traits attributable to my Master.

If that has been your only experience, then I think your selection perameters may be off base.

Best wishing in finding what you seek once you determine what that is.





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RE: Why Subs Top from the Bottom - 12/24/2010 6:54:15 PM   
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I like the Bond shot!

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RE: Why Subs Top from the Bottom - 12/24/2010 7:22:36 PM   
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What a two-dimensional transposition of what I said. No wonder I removed this post. No one understood it, preferring to understand what they hoped I'd said. Casting pearls before swine is never a bright event.


Transposition? You said outright that there are only two types of people here.

Just two.

No room for variety.

Just two - and no variation within those two. You clearly defined them.

And you removed your post with a scant few minutes without any further information or explanation of what we supposedly missed, instead jumping to insults. The fact that you attempted to remove your words almost immediately upon being questioned and must resort to insults without even trying to back up/defend/explain says a great deal.

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RE: Why Subs Top from the Bottom - 12/24/2010 7:22:42 PM   
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Sounds like Jeopardy. What is duh? Ok, my guess is... What is because the top lets them?


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