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stef -> RE: Is there a law on length of time between shifts? (12/27/2010 7:38:38 PM)

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ORIGINAL: defiantbadgirl

Why does everyone keep making it sound so simple?

Because it is so simple. 

~stef




pahunkboy -> RE: Is there a law on length of time between shifts? (12/27/2010 7:42:01 PM)

.....it sounds like this thread is not working out. 




ThatDamnedPanda -> RE: Is there a law on length of time between shifts? (12/27/2010 7:51:43 PM)

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ORIGINAL: pahunkboy

.....it sounds like this thread is not working out. 


It just needs a good night's sleep, that's all.

OP, if you're only working 28 hours a week at your job, that has to leave a lot of flexibility in your home life to make whatever adjustments need to be made to accommodate this once-a-month meeting. Like most things in life, it probably comes down to clarifying your priorities and scheduling your life to reflect those priorities. It's not the Apollo Program Part II, it's just what everybody does to make their life work.




YoungBlondeSlave -> RE: Is there a law on length of time between shifts? (12/27/2010 8:04:48 PM)

So, you're working part time...doing who knows what (if it was said, i missed it through skimming). And you have no desire to go to the monthly meeting as required being an employee of this company which, i'm assuming you knew about before you took the job.

i'm *really* hoping that you're just out of high school and just now realizing how unfair the real world is. Because, if you're an adult woman acting like this. Well, i'm embarrassed for you and especially your Sir.

You've been provided with a multitude of solutions only to fall back on the:
"I'M SO TIRED BECAUSE I WON'T SLEEP A FULL 8 HOURS AND WHEN I DRIVE SLEEPY IT WILL CAUSE A HORRIFIC CAR ACCIDENT AND EVERYONE WILL DIE AND IT'LL BE MY BOSS' FAULT!!"

It sounds to me that since no one is saying "Oh those big bad meanie bosses of yours shouldn't make you have to go to a meeting!! Poor girl, they're so awful mean to you." You're disregarding everything that is said. You came here, asking for help, advice and information...you got all three. Now it's time for you to quit the whining and decide what YOU are going to do about it.

The poor me speel is not garnering a lot of sympathy from those of us who, actually do our duties as employees, or those who are bosses and have to deal with the problems of employees day in and day out. That's like me saying "well, i couldn't sleep very good last night so if i smash my car on my way to or from work then it's my work's fault because i wouldn't have been on the road if i didn't have to go to work." It's BS, pure and simple. i should have had the foresight to know i was too tired and to call off saying "i didn't sleep well and i feel that i may endanger the lives of those on the road, and the lives of my patients if i come to work today."

It seems like all i do is work and drive sleep-deprived, i don't like it but that's how life is. When i was in school i would work full time as a waitress graveyard shift, then go to school full time during the day and maybe nap for about four to five hours then do it all again. Now that i'm a nurse, i work a lot of hours, sometimes understaffed and always sleep deprived. i often get sleepy driving, so i do something as crazy as pulling over and taking a short nap and then continue my drive. I know, it's crazy, i'm gonna see someone about it.

There are times where i work back to back double shifts (that means my ass is at work for sixteen hours straight, most times without breaks for meals or anything). i'll get off work at 9:30pm, get home at 11 and be asleep by 12. Then, i get up at 3:30am to do it all over again so i can be in my clinic at 5:30am. Doing that two to three days, or more in a row can be exhausting...i have some co-workers who work 80+ hours a week. So you, whining about not wanting to go to a short meeting because it will interrupt your precious sleep doesn't really fly with me. Once again, suck it up. My best feat was working a 16 hour shift on 90 minutes of sleep so, you can suck it up once a month it's just that it appears that you CHOOSE not to.

So, now it's time to put aside the theatrics and take some responsibility. If you're not going to do anything to improve what you think is an unfair situation besides pout, then go ahead. But nothing will happen.

OP, you have four options.
1. Suck it up.
2. Provide suggestions for change to make it work for everyone.
3. Call in sick each day that the meeting is so that you don't have to go.
4. Quit.

Make your choice.




defiantbadgirl -> RE: Is there a law on length of time between shifts? (12/27/2010 10:56:25 PM)

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ORIGINAL: barelynangel

Is there anything you don't have an excuse for? 


X-RAY clearly showing curved spine = excuse. Apparently, my chiropractor and I hallucinated at the same time.

Chiropractor telling me I can't work at a job that requires all day standing = excuse. Guess I was hearing things.

Diagnosed with pinched sciatic nerve several times = excuse. Must have been hearing things again.

Carpal tunnel = excuse. College professor could've been wrong about the cause of my hands going numb when taking notes.

It's all my fault. Happy now?




tazzygirl -> RE: Is there a law on length of time between shifts? (12/27/2010 11:24:49 PM)

Your physical disorders are not your fault. How you deal with them are. Time management is a must for you. Nap before and afterwards. Or change jobs. There are very few choices for you. But dont get huffy because people are pointing out ways for you to adjust.




YoungBlondeSlave -> RE: Is there a law on length of time between shifts? (12/27/2010 11:28:45 PM)

Perhaps instead of focusing on what you CANNOT do. Focus on what you CAN do. Sheesh.




Termyn8or -> RE: Is there a law on length of time between shifts? (12/27/2010 11:33:57 PM)

Had the pain, numbness and tingling in the hands.
Had the sciatica.
Had the knee problems so bad I couldn't walk down a set of stairs.

And at work I got down on the floor sitting with crossed legs, squirming down to see under this or that, burning and cutting myself along the way.

Diet changed all that which is a different subject, but I did it. I finally quit doing heavy lifting a few years ago, for a few reasons. I have actually started doing some again now. The job didn't wear me out, I wore me out. I figured that out and things are different now.

Woe is you, and I don't mean that sarcastically. But no matter what, it looks like the job is not going to adjust to you. You have a snowball's chance in hell of that.

You think my brain is pickled ? A couple of years ago someone was on here with a quite similar job and maladies as you, with concerns about her limitations. Had something to do with lifting patients in case of an emergengy. Was that you ? The story seems mighty familiar. Many coincidences. The bottom line then was if you can't do the job get another.

As harsh as it may sound, whether that was you then or not, the bottom line is the same. If you're working in health care, why couldn't you be a receptionist, an expeditor, a call taker, a secretary, a driver (somewhere not as picky), a salesperson, a.....even EEEK ! a telemarketer. In fact, why not a medical records professional ? Work at the main office of a bank, all that is computerized now, there is very little in filing cabinets these days. Some of these jobs can be done from a wheelchair.

If you are that distressed, do something. You can't do it to them, you must do it to yourself. Some of the higher paying jobs don't even require standing up. If you can hack the education required, you can be a hacker even, oops, a software engineer. These people don't even have to get up to get their own coffee. If you have good eyesight and a steady hand you can learn to rework PC boards. The story on that is you change the part, which takes less than an hour and the company gets $100-300 for the finished job. There's a nice low stress $25 an hour job.

It's out there. Just look. The people who work at eBay don't lift truckloads of beanie babies.

T




gungadin09 -> RE: Is there a law on length of time between shifts? (12/27/2010 11:50:24 PM)

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ORIGINAL: defiantbadgirl

I'm afraid bringing it up at the corporate office will get me fired. That's why I was hoping there was a law to protect me. Apparently there isn't.


Sorry, but bringing it up is likely to get you fired even if there is a law against it. That's what "employment at will" means. Effectively, they can fire you for any reason. Now, if they are breaking the law and you complain, they will say that THAT'S not the reason they fired you. They fired you because your shoes were untied, or you were 5 minutes late to work, or... well, ANYTHING else. But if they want to fire you, even for an reason that's illegal, they can do it, really. There's not much you can do about that, even when there is a law. And in this case, i take it, there isn't.

There are plenty of people out of work right now. Just be thankful you have a job. There are worse things than losing a few hours of sleep.

pam





tazzygirl -> RE: Is there a law on length of time between shifts? (12/28/2010 12:18:56 AM)

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As someone said earlier, most companies today are "at will" employers, meaning they can fire you at will.


For those who believe the following... and im not picking on sexyred1... you may be interested in the following...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/At-will_employment




defiantbadgirl -> RE: Is there a law on length of time between shifts? (12/28/2010 12:32:55 AM)

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ORIGINAL: January
My understanding is that her clients ARE ASLEEP in the middle of the night when she works. In contrast to the day shift, she does NOT deal directly with her clients, unless there is a big time emergency. The day shift drives clients to doctor's visits (hence a good driving record is required, which she doesn't have) and bathes them and feeds them and cooks, or whatever. The day shift may not have time to do laundry and dishes, as they are occupied with the client.

Two of the clients I work with are night owls on weekends. The day shift doesn't deal with them much because they sleep most of the day. The other two usually get up a few times throughout the night. A weekday always follows one of the nights I work, which means I get to make lunches, make sure all four guys are up and dressed, cook and serve breakfast, pass meds and do all required treatments, and make sure they're ready to go by a certain time. I've been called in to work the "busy" shift several times. One meal is prepared and served, meds are passed, treatments are given, and one client needs help getting ready for bed. It's all very laid back because there is no rush to have everyone ready to leave by a certain time. Whoever you got your "understanding" from couldn't be more wrong. Since you think all laundry should be done at night, I suppose I should remind you there is a night shift 7 nights a week.

So why do I think she's sitting around? Mainly because of her prior postings about her terrible back, and how she can barely do her job because of it, unless she gets drugs. Have you seen her posts asking the CM folk, where can she get a prescription for muscle relaxant drugs for cheap?

Most of the houses I can't work at because they require heavy lifting. The house I work at now I'm very good at. My boss complimented my performance when I talked to her earlier today. I want non-narcotic muscle relaxers (drugs) because I hate my physical limitations without them. Most jobs in my area require employees to be on their feet all day. I was told not to work at a job that required standing all day. With non-narcotic muscle relaxers, I could probably handle standing all day. 





SpiritedRadiance -> RE: Is there a law on length of time between shifts? (12/28/2010 12:41:05 AM)

DBG.

Heres the deal last week in 4 days i worked 52 hours....

This week ive been here two days and ive already put in 22...

Seriously SHUT UP about 28 hours of work a week and get the fuck over it....




defiantbadgirl -> RE: Is there a law on length of time between shifts? (12/28/2010 1:44:35 AM)

Why are so many people obsessed with 28 hours? The problem is lack of sleep, not the number of hours I work. I WANT TO WORK MORE HOURS, NOT LESS. In the previous thread that was mentioned, I never asked which doctor to go to for cheap drugs. Why would I ask for the name of a doctor on a forum consisting of people who live in different states? I did ask for the name of a good inexpensive NON-NARCOTIC muscle relaxer because my chiropractor (in my state) can't prescribe meds and my primary care physician (also in my state) who can prescribe meds isn't an expert on muscle relaxers for bad backs. The reason I wanted a NON-NARCOTIC muscle relaxer was so I wouldn't be so limited on job options because I wanted a job where I wouldn't be sleep deprived and could work MORE HOURS. For some strange reason, everyone assumed I was a drug addict and recommended exercises my chiropractor said I can't safely do. Now that I have made it clear that I want MORE HOURS, people will probably stop obsessing about my 28 hours and go back to calling me a drug addict.




DaddysInkedSlut -> RE: Is there a law on length of time between shifts? (12/28/2010 2:25:17 AM)

OP

You have made yourself into a victim. THAT is your choice in this situation.
The reality is you have other options. YOU have choosen this one.

In the past, by your own words YOU have broken laws while driving.
YOU have endangered others while driving recklessly.So now you are suffering the consequeces and unable to be a company driver. (according to your words)
Yet, you scream from the mountain tops about how your employeer is some how breaking a law.
You scream from the mountain top about how THEY are endangering lives by MAKING you drive while tired.
What laws are THEY breaking?
How are THEY endangering lives?
How are they MAKING you endanger lives?
How they MAKING you do anything for that matter?

You have choices, those choices have consequences.
Own your choices and consquences.




angelikaJ -> RE: Is there a law on length of time between shifts? (12/28/2010 3:03:57 AM)

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ORIGINAL: defiantbadgirl

Why are so many people obsessed with 28 hours? The problem is lack of sleep, not the number of hours I work. I WANT TO WORK MORE HOURS, NOT LESS. In the previous thread that was mentioned, I never asked which doctor to go to for cheap drugs. Why would I ask for the name of a doctor on a forum consisting of people who live in different states? I did ask for the name of a good inexpensive NON-NARCOTIC muscle relaxer because my chiropractor (in my state) can't prescribe meds and my primary care physician (also in my state) who can prescribe meds isn't an expert on muscle relaxers for bad backs. The reason I wanted a NON-NARCOTIC muscle relaxer was so I wouldn't be so limited on job options because I wanted a job where I wouldn't be sleep deprived and could work MORE HOURS. For some strange reason, everyone assumed I was a drug addict and recommended exercises my chiropractor said I can't safely do. Now that I have made it clear that I want MORE HOURS, people will probably stop obsessing about my 28 hours and go back to calling me a drug addict.


My primary care physician is the one who prescribes my non-narcotic muscle relaxants.
I am going to try to do you a favor and ask that you look up both flexeril and norflex on wikipedia.
You will see that they actually work more as pain relievers...the action is not on the muscles themselves.
I am also going to tell you that in some people even though they are non-narcotic (and are actually chemically related to antihistamines) they do have a potential for abuse.

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jglas02 -> RE: Is there a law on length of time between shifts? (12/28/2010 3:24:54 AM)

Edit: never mind, this will become apparent soon enough




BonesFromAsh -> RE: Is there a law on length of time between shifts? (12/28/2010 3:46:41 AM)


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ORIGINAL: jglas02

Edit: never mind, this will become apparent soon enough


Trust me....some folks saw your first post and were unimpressed. [8|]

If you have an opinion on the topic of this thread, why not share it instead of announcing your intent to report someone.




KatyLied -> RE: Is there a law on length of time between shifts? (12/28/2010 3:59:12 AM)

I didn't know that college professors were qualified to dx carpal tunnel syndrome.  Are you aware that there is a fix for it? 

If you do this much whining working one part-time job, I would love to see how you manage a full-time job.  Or a full-time job + a part-time job.




barelynangel -> RE: Is there a law on length of time between shifts? (12/28/2010 5:04:45 AM)

Yes you make excuses DBG, about pretty much everything.  Do you know how many people in this world work even if they have A, B, or C.  You whine about your job, your dom whines about what you have to do at your job, you whine about a once a month meeting when you are ONLY working bloody 28 hours a week (you do realize that MOST people in the world work full time and then some. yes?  You say you "can't" work long hours standing up, your COLLEGE PROFESSOR tells you that you have carpul tunnel, nevermind that there are 1000s of people epecially now that so much work and even leisure is working on a keyboard so you can't work at an admin job.  Sorry but that's BS.  Its you don't WANT to.  Tell me what CAN you do, what don't you complain about?

Maybe you can't stand for hours on end, but there are MANY admin jobs you could probably do and what's so funny is they sound like they would be ideal for you because MANY admin jobs aren't where you type ALL DAY long anymore. There are also a lot of FIXES for carpul tunnel syndrome now.  Perhaps instead of looking at what you CAN'T do, you look at what you can.  Because its not your issues that are limiting you its YOU who are limiting you, and now you sit here acting as if your company is doing something wrong because its telling you to come to a monthly meeting once a month. YES YOU MAKE EXCUSES and you are a complainer.  You'd rather complain instead of do.  THAT is how you are limiting yourself, its not your physical limitations or this or that, its YOU and how you milk these things for all you can to be a victim to them.

The reason people are so astonished as we realize you are ONLY working 28 hours a week is your bitching because you have to go to a monthly meeting and you are going as far as to indicate accidents will happen and you want to say the company is doing something illegal.  Damn i really worry if you ever have to work more hours if you are soooooo sleep deprived now and complaining because of what the company requires of you now.

Look DBG, there is a fix to all this, realize that sometimes being an adult means you gotta do what you gotta do.  That you AREN'T more or less special than the other people who work for the company, that you aren't more or less special than the billions, yes let's say it together, BILLIONS of people in this world who work every day.  Its unbelieveable that you don't get why people are blinking and saying WTF when they realize you are only working part-time.  Maybe if you stop complaining about how this company is doing you wrong, you may get it.  You say you have physical limitations,  you have TWO concepts the doc told you to do -- no heavy lifting and not to stand for long periods of time.  The issue i see is you have taken this and ran with it.  But then you say a college professor told you that you have carpul tunnel -- A COLLEGE PROFESSOR.  And so what you can't work the 90129301237193821 other jobs that involve typing?  Well you seem to be capable of posting on a computer.  So it must not be THAT bad.  Have you looked into fixes for it??? 

A doctor doesn't have to be an expert to prescribe medications, and i find it odd he wouldn't send you to someone who could prescribe them IF HE REALLY believes you need them.  Sorry but that just doesn't add up.  And many times if a doctor really believes his patient needs something, if they don't send them to someone who can help, they do their own research and speak with their colleagues etc.  So maybe its just he doesn't believe you need them that badly.

So in the end, yep, you make excuses, you choose to limit yourself, and you complain.  Just think about what you COULD do if you stop making excuses, stop limiting yourself, and stop complaining.   You may be surprised.  Seriously, your posting seems to indicate that you are somehow different from most people in the world, you really aren't.

angel




SpiritedRadiance -> RE: Is there a law on length of time between shifts? (12/28/2010 6:17:52 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: defiantbadgirl

Why are so many people obsessed with 28 hours? The problem is lack of sleep, not the number of hours I work. I WANT TO WORK MORE HOURS, NOT LESS. In the previous thread that was mentioned, I never asked which doctor to go to for cheap drugs. Why would I ask for the name of a doctor on a forum consisting of people who live in different states? I did ask for the name of a good inexpensive NON-NARCOTIC muscle relaxer because my chiropractor (in my state) can't prescribe meds and my primary care physician (also in my state) who can prescribe meds isn't an expert on muscle relaxers for bad backs. The reason I wanted a NON-NARCOTIC muscle relaxer was so I wouldn't be so limited on job options because I wanted a job where I wouldn't be sleep deprived and could work MORE HOURS. For some strange reason, everyone assumed I was a drug addict and recommended exercises my chiropractor said I can't safely do. Now that I have made it clear that I want MORE HOURS, people will probably stop obsessing about my 28 hours and go back to calling me a drug addict.


Because I seem to manage twice the amount of work you do a week on the night shift and i dont drive recklessly or sleep deprived....




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