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RE: Why is female supremacy accepted but not male supre... - 4/30/2006 4:31:51 PM

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I just find sexism or superiority over another gender is as bad as racism. It's like me saying white people are better than black people. Women are allowed to hate the other gender but males are not. Women are allowed to shoot a male but a male is not allowed to shoot a female. Thanks to feminism, this crap is acceptable.

Violence, no matter the gender of the person commiting it, is NEVER acceptable.

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RE: Why is female supremacy accepted but not male supre... - 4/30/2006 4:32:37 PM

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Look, we all know Men are supreme ok

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RE: Why is female supremacy accepted but not male supre... - 4/30/2006 4:34:01 PM

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...Women are allowed to shoot a male but a male is not allowed to shoot a female. Thanks to feminism, this crap is acceptable.

Er... I am not sure of your nationality, but the last time I checked, in the United States,women were still punishable by law for homicide, man slaughter, reckless endangerment, assault, etc...?

Yes, my brother inlaw works at a women's prison and it is full of female murderers...

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RE: Why is female supremacy accepted but not male supre... - 4/30/2006 4:34:27 PM

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hehehe...

Now you know, jali, that I personally do tend to agree on that.. they do have way better toys to play with than we do, thats for sure!

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RE: Why is female supremacy accepted but not male supre... - 4/30/2006 4:37:11 PM

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ORIGINAL: puella

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...Women are allowed to shoot a male but a male is not allowed to shoot a female. Thanks to feminism, this crap is acceptable.

Er... I am not sure of your nationality, but the last time I checked, in the United States,women were still punishable by law for homicide, man slaughter, reckless endangerment, assault, etc...?

I was being sarcastic. I meant it in a way of females get away with more hatred towards the other gender than males do towards women. Of course a woman is not allowed to shoot a man by law.

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RE: Why is female supremacy accepted but not male supre... - 4/30/2006 4:39:31 PM

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hmm

Well I think that might well be arguable as well... look into the statistics of domestic violence against women, and how many are brought even to arrests, let alone prosecution. Then again look at rape statistics, violent attacks against women vs against men etc....

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RE: Why is female supremacy accepted but not male supre... - 4/30/2006 4:42:15 PM

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Hatred, bitterness, domestic violence, etc, are grossly unattractive at best and grounds for a jail term at worst, no matter which gender is doing it.

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RE: Why is female supremacy accepted but not male supre... - 4/30/2006 4:45:10 PM

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I may be wrong on my timeline, but I am thinking that for all practical purposes until there was a shakeup around the 1920-1930 range, Male superiority, or supremecy if you prefer was the way of the land (world). In many countries it is still this way, or so I understand. It took quite a bit of work for females to actually gain ground and become equal at all and in many aspects they still aren't there. I don't buy into the thought that anyone should automatically be "supreme" solely due to their sex, but I certainly don't think they should be regarded as a lower life form either. I'm not a big supporter of any women's lib movement per se, but I'm all for equal as a starting point and then you can adjust according to your specific needs, wants or desires.

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RE: Why is female supremacy accepted but not male supre... - 4/30/2006 4:48:11 PM

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I believe in equally, I believe in fair play.

So you are ranting/whining that life isn't fair? You are just finding it out now?

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RE: Why is female supremacy accepted but not male supre... - 4/30/2006 4:49:41 PM

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Most women get away with statutory rape but 99 percent of men don't. In America or the UK, it was a man who has to pay child support for a woman who committed statutory rape on him when he was in his mid teens and she was in her 30s or 40s at the time. When it comes to sex crimes or violence, women get a softer punishment. You hear all over the tv about, stop violence against women, but where are the commercials that say stop violence against men? It's a 2 way street.

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RE: Why is female supremacy accepted but not male supre... - 4/30/2006 4:56:05 PM

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good points puella.

I'm weighing in on the "odd" side of thinking here once more.

My profile clearly states that I practice a gorean structured dynamic-without the fancy sci fi/fantasy aspects tossed in.

Yet,I do not classify myself as a male supremacist- like you I simply realize certain individuals are happier in subservience-for it is thier nature. It varies very little by sex,overall. This is why I refuse to identify with Gor on an absolutist Male dominance level.

Now while I do find modern feminists attempts to figuratively castrate strong men as objectionable.......I doubt that they can really bring any truly capable man to heel.

And what I ignore,is a non issue in my world. As far as strong women who respect my feelings? I see them as peers,and always have.

Not as abberations.

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RE: Why is female supremacy accepted but not male supre... - 4/30/2006 5:05:29 PM

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re-you're right kitty-men-you can't live with em--you can't shoot em

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RE: Why is female supremacy accepted but not male supre... - 4/30/2006 5:08:48 PM

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LOL...here we go back to the shooting thing. Dan, it's not nice to shoot people.

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RE: Why is female supremacy accepted but not male supre... - 4/30/2006 5:14:49 PM

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Er, don't they call that Gorean? Or for folks who don't like that particular flavor of culture, just "male dominant"?

Thank you ever so much for lumping all male dominants in with male supremists. How very endearing of you.

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ORIGINAL: Proprietrix

*carefully sits out ye ole soapbox*
Male supremacy is just as valid as female supremacy.
Male Dominants have just as much right to call themselves Gods as female Dominants do to call themselves Goddesses.
Male Dominants should be equally as welcomed to practice patriarchy as female Dominants are to practice matriarchy.
It's just as valid to be a woman-hater as it is to be a man-hater.
One does not have to be Judeo-Christian to engage in male supremacy.
*puts away ye old soapbox*

Probably the most lucid remarks I've seen made in this thread. Personally, I'd prefer to see a lot of that sort of thing done away with, but then I'm a dreamer.

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ORIGINAL: naughtynick
I believe in equally, I believe in fair play.

So you are ranting/whining that life isn't fair? You are just finding it out now?

My, what an enlightened remark to make. Can you smell the sarcasm? Suppose the early women's suffrage movement had received just that sort of reaction and nothing more. "Ranting about life being unfair are you ladies, so sorry, you'll just have to deal with it I'm afraid... ta ta..."

I don't believe in the notion of universal equality. I do believe in fairness and equal opportunity. Thus I believe if we're going to have a female supremist option then we should have a male supremist option, or else remove them entirely (which would be my preference). If women can be Goddesses... then men can be Gods. If dominatrix's, domme's and mistresses can demand tribute, then doms and masters should be able to do so as well. In short, I'd like to see the elimination of the numerous double standards that are accepted daily in this lifestyle without question.

BTW, I'm now accepting tribute, for a gift of just $19.95 you can have a pair of my smelly, unwashed work socks mailed to you (S/H not included), act now while supplies last (besides which I want to by new socks), some restrictions may be applied for an additional fee, offer not valid anywhere on planet earth, this was just more sarcasm, thank you for reading and have a nice day.

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RE: Why is female supremacy accepted but not male supre... - 4/30/2006 5:22:52 PM

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smelly work socks! Gotta have them, how much to ship to California and do you charge extra to teach me how to worship them??? Im paypaling the cash right now...LOLOLOLOL

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RE: Why is female supremacy accepted but not male supre... - 4/30/2006 6:12:19 PM

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My, what an enlightened remark to make. Can you smell the sarcasm? Suppose the early women's suffrage movement had received just that sort of reaction and nothing more. "Ranting about life being unfair are you ladies, so sorry, you'll just have to deal with it I'm afraid... ta ta..."

I suppose they did face sarcasm and condescending attitudes. They also faced arrest and the wrath of their husbands and fathers.
Women's suffrage was achieved through determination and action.
I, too, would like to see a true balance of power in all societies, but whining won't accomplish that.

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RE: Why is female supremacy accepted but not male supre... - 4/30/2006 6:17:58 PM

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I wouldnt choose the option if male supremacy was there, but why the double standard? Why is it okay for a woman to be a chauvinist but not a man? To choose the lifestyle interest in your profile, you can choose to be a female supremacist but were is the option for male supremacist?

I believe in equally, I believe in fair play. No gender is superior than the other. I just find it stupid. Choose female supremacy all you want, I dont care. What bothers me is, where is the option for men?

I don't believe in the supremacy of either sex. The people that claim supremacy based on their gender or their orientation are people I have no wish to know.

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RE: Why is female supremacy accepted but not male supre... - 4/30/2006 6:26:05 PM

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Thank you ever so much for lumping all male dominants in with male supremists. How very endearing of you.

You're quite right, they aren't the same thing. I was thinking from the point of view of the original questioner asking "where can I find men who feel comfortable being supreme", which probably wasn't what was actually being asked. Not all dominants are under the impression that their orientation is the only right one for everybody of their gender.

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I don't believe in the notion of universal equality. I do believe in fairness and equal opportunity. Thus I believe if we're going to have a female supremist option then we should have a male supremist option, or else remove them entirely (which would be my preference). If women can be Goddesses... then men can be Gods. If dominatrix's, domme's and mistresses can demand tribute, then doms and masters should be able to do so as well. In short, I'd like to see the elimination of the numerous double standards that are accepted daily in this lifestyle without question.

BTW, I'm now accepting tribute, for a gift of just $19.95 you can have a pair of my smelly, unwashed work socks mailed to you (S/H not included), act now while supplies last (besides which I want to by new socks), some restrictions may be applied for an additional fee, offer not valid anywhere on planet earth, this was just more sarcasm, thank you for reading and have a nice day.

Allow me to introduce you to the gay male D/s community, where doms and masters may demand tribute for items like their smelly, unwashed work socks, and get it, too. If you redirect your post to somewhere like http://www.footbuddies.com/ I bet it won't take long for you to actually get that twenty bucks.

Men are willing and eager to pay for sexual services. Women, for the most part, are not. Does this promote inequality? Possibly it does, but I don't see this changing in the forseeable future.

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RE: Why is female supremacy accepted but not male supre... - 4/30/2006 6:46:11 PM

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Now while I do find modern feminists attempts to figuratively castrate strong men as objectionable.......I doubt that they can really bring any truly capable man to heel.

And what I ignore,is a non issue in my world. As far as strong women who respect my feelings? I see them as peers,and always have.

Not as abberations.

In the end, I think we all explore boundaries and limits, on some level... look at children and how they crave to know the parameters of what is allowed and expected of them... and test them!

You have put a great smile upon my face, thank you, Reasonable!

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RE: Why is female supremacy accepted but not male supre... - 4/30/2006 6:48:18 PM

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Unssuccesful as I often am, I do try to merit my name.