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RE: Islam and illogic - 12/30/2010 1:55:40 PM   
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RE: Islam and illogic - 12/30/2010 1:58:00 PM   
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Status: offline 		"The whole schism () in Ireland traces directly to the clash between the same faiths that was going on throughout Europe during the later middle ages."

Be that as it may (or may not be), it's a political struggle today; or, once again, those "good old Boston Catholics" would just as happily contribute to the killings of Protestants in America or Italy or wherever.

The ability of liberals to argue against obvious truth is amazing.



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2. Sharia is barbaric, homophobic, violent, and inimical to the most basic Western values (including free speech and freedom of religion). (Yeah, I know: SEE: Irony 101).
ERGO: Islam has no place in America.

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RE: Islam and illogic - 12/30/2010 1:59:32 PM   
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RE: Islam and illogic - 12/30/2010 2:00:57 PM   
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That has actually happened at least tice in recent memories. There are doubtless many other MINOs, cultural Musloms, apostates, whatever.  

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2. Sharia is barbaric, homophobic, violent, and inimical to the most basic Western values (including free speech and freedom of religion). (Yeah, I know: SEE: Irony 101).
ERGO: Islam has no place in America.

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RE: Islam and illogic - 12/30/2010 2:02:34 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Kirata


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You still evade the central point of the conflict. The sole identifying characteristic of the people targeted and those doing the targeting was their religion. That makes the war religious.

I'm not evading anything. That's only your opinion, not a fact. And it shows what a whore reason can be in the service of virtually any kind of bias that can infect the human mind. The people who committed this travesty weren't motivated by their religious faith. They didn't see themselves as righteously doing God's will. They don't have even that thin excuse. And you don't have one either. The only thing that makes the war "religious" in your opinion is your opinion of religion.

K.


How precisely do you tell the difference between a Bosniak and a Serb? What is the identifying characteristic?

If the Serbs did not consider it a religious struggle why did they use the term crusade to describe their actions?

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RE: Islam and illogic - 12/30/2010 2:06:50 PM   
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Status: offline 		BTW to those arguing about the conflict in Ireland, the facts are that the conflict lies more in politics of empire than it does in religion (although religion is definitely part of it). The Irish Protestants are descendants of Scottish Presbytereans hired by William of Orange to aid him in the conquest of Ireland. They were given land in Ireland as payment.

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RE: Islam and illogic - 12/30/2010 2:13:24 PM   
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Status: offline 		This is true, but word is part of the resentment over the apprentice boys, the orange order and the rest of that crap is because they're not Catholic.

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RE: Islam and illogic - 12/30/2010 2:15:13 PM   
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This is true, but word is part of the resentment over the apprentice boys, the orange order and the rest of that crap is because they're not Catholic.

I realy doubt the two sides would be at peace if William had recruited Catholic Scots instead or Protestant ones.

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RE: Islam and illogic - 12/30/2010 2:17:57 PM   
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RE: Islam and illogic - 12/30/2010 2:20:06 PM   
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If the Serbs did not consider it a religious struggle why did they use the term crusade to describe their actions?

Because such a claim met their estimate of suitable propaganda for consumption by the West.

K.

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RE: Islam and illogic - 12/30/2010 2:23:59 PM   
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How precisely do you tell the difference between a Bosniak and a Serb?

A Serb is shorter than a Bosniak.

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RE: Islam and illogic - 12/30/2010 2:38:01 PM   
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It's a well-known poll taken pretty shortly after the bombings. You can find it if you so desire.  If you don't care to, don't.

74% increase in your Muslim population since your last census. Extrapolate that out, you'd better start learning Farsi or Arabic.


Oh I know Farsi very well. I lived in Iran for many years.

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RE: Islam and illogic - 12/30/2010 3:30:17 PM   
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ORIGINAL: truckinslave

"The whole schism () in Ireland traces directly to the clash between the same faiths that was going on throughout Europe during the later middle ages."

Be that as it may (or may not be), it's a political struggle today; or, once again, those "good old Boston Catholics" would just as happily contribute to the killings of Protestants in America or Italy or wherever.

The ability of liberals to argue against obvious truth is amazing.




Newsflash......History started BEFORE The Boston Tea Party. Just because something seems obvious to you, that doesnt make it a fact either.

If you think there was no religious link to the troubles in Ireland, you need a brain transplant. Likewise if you think the troubles with Serbia/Bosnia ect had nothing to do with religion.


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RE: Islam and illogic - 12/30/2010 3:33:53 PM   
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I swear, it's like playing Whack-a-Mole around here sometimes, ain't it?

K.


more like Whack-a-Troll


How about Whack-a-Chimp.

I do have to congratulate you though, I have never seen a more fitting avatar.

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RE: Islam and illogic - 12/30/2010 3:37:18 PM   
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RE: Islam and illogic - 12/30/2010 3:49:53 PM   
truckinslave


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Status: offline 		I have neither commented on the Serbian thing- at all- nor on the origin of the  Irish conflict.

I simply commented that it is, today, political.

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2. Sharia is barbaric, homophobic, violent, and inimical to the most basic Western values (including free speech and freedom of religion). (Yeah, I know: SEE: Irony 101).
ERGO: Islam has no place in America.

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RE: Islam and illogic - 12/30/2010 3:50:21 PM   
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ORIGINAL: DomKen

BTW to those arguing about the conflict in Ireland, the facts are that the conflict lies more in politics of empire than it does in religion (although religion is definitely part of it). The Irish Protestants are descendants of Scottish Presbytereans hired by William of Orange to aid him in the conquest of Ireland. They were given land in Ireland as payment.


Absolute nonsense Ken. The problems in Ireland really got going around the time of Henry 8th. It was all to do with religion, and not Empire, as England was worried about Catholic France and Spain getting a foot hold on Ireland. I posted the reasons why in a previous reply to you. James 1st started the plantations around 1550 William Of Orange was 100 years later. The first British males to work the plantations were roughly half English and half Scots. I agree more Scots went over at a later date, but the Ulster Scots is somewhat of a misnomer, as many trace their roots to Wales or England.

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RE: Islam and illogic - 12/30/2010 3:56:09 PM   
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Muslims are ignorant...not stupid (well, maybe stupid too). The problem with their religion is if you question something they kill you! No, they don't correct you, they KILL YOU!!! They also want to kill everyone who is not a Muslim. Liberals don't have sense enough to realize that. Liberals think if you bow down and kiss their ass they will let you live. Well, they won't...they will kill you too.
Muslims don't care if you are a Democrat, Republican, Tea Partyer, or whatever. They want to kill all of us.
It is a shame that Liberals are soooo stupid. Liberals are going to die saying, "but, but we are with you Muslims."

The only thing that will save the liberals are the conservatives...we won't quit and we get it!!!


Oh, thank you!  From the bottom of my heart.

Thank God we have intelligent, brave conservatives such as yourself to protect us.

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RE: Islam and illogic - 12/30/2010 4:00:57 PM   
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I have neither commented on the Serbian thing- at all- nor on the origin of the  Irish conflict.

I simply commented that it is, today, political.


Its sectarian, no matter how many times you post otherwise.

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RE: Islam and illogic - 12/30/2010 4:08:16 PM   
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ORIGINAL: DomKen
BTW to those arguing about the conflict in Ireland, the facts are that the conflict lies more in politics of empire than it does in religion (although religion is definitely part of it)....

Absolute nonsense Ken. The problems in Ireland really got going around the time of Henry 8th. It was all to do with religion, and not Empire, as England was worried about Catholic France and Spain getting a foot hold on Ireland.Wales or England....

But wasn't Henry VIII's separation from the Catholic church predominately political in its aims and consequences?  Conversely, it wasn't purely theological.  It seems to me that -- certainly during this time in European history -- it's impossible to disentangle religion from either secular politics or national and ethnic identity.

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