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RE: Are the British more law abiding than Americans? - 1/5/2011 4:38:11 AM   
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its very easy to prove america is a feudal society and to dumb to know the difference lol



You're half right, I'll give you that - you have no trouble at all proving the second point in your argument.

The first point... well, that must not be as easy as you think, because in all your years of posting, you've never come within a mile of it.



to easy!

Look up knights service.

they would conquer land and divide it up among 60,000 knights sworn to protect the king.

Go to the northwest ordinance:
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Provided, the constitution and government so to be formed, shall be republican, and in conformity to the principles contained in these articles; and, so far as it can be consistent with the general interest of the confederacy, such admission shall be allowed at an earlier period, and when there may be a less number of free inhabitants in the State than sixty thousand.
  (knights were considered franchised freemen)

How do you get out of knights service?  Well by paying the feud to the lord!
TAXES!

the title to your property is in fee simple

fee simple is "in fee"

in fee is in fealty to the lord

Your state is sovereign and you can only sue them with THEIR permission and then only what they are willing to ALLOW you to sue for.

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Common law continued in force. SECTION 13. Such parts of the common law as are now in force in the territory of Wisconsin, not inconsistent with this constitution, shall be and continue part of the law of this state until altered or suspended by the legislature.

This section does not codify English common law circa 1776, but preserves law that by historical understanding is subject to continuing evolution under the judicial power. The supreme court court has authority not only to alter but also to abrogate the common law when appropriate. The court’s responsibility for altering or abolishing a common law rule does not end due to legislative failure to enact a statute
to the contrary. State v. Picotte, 2003 WI 42, 261 Wis. 2d 249, 661 N.W.2d 381,
01−3063.


Common law of 1776 goes all the way back to the 1215 Magna Charta and is secured not only in the wisconsin constitution but the federal constitution as well even though it is largely ignored.

So how do you plan on telling me that the definition fee simple has somehow changed?

I know!  You can tell me that you own your property in alod and you do not have to pay taxes on it for "services rendered by the sovereign king".  (state)

Can you do that? 

Welcome to the desert of the real peasant! 


LOL





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RE: Are the British more law abiding than Americans? - 1/5/2011 4:38:49 AM   
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As with any kind of humour: you watch people's faces, they show they're not happy, you STFU. 

You think? Hmmmmm. Not at all sure about that.

If I find something funny, it's funny. Other people may not think it's funny, but that's their opinion (and they're welcome to it). Do I inadvertently upset people sometimes? I would imagine I do. Do I lose sleep about it? Not that I'm aware of. Do I find some other people unfunny? Of course, but again, that's my issue, not theirs.

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RE: Are the British more law abiding than Americans? - 1/5/2011 4:42:59 AM   
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the Magna Charta

The which-what?

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RE: Are the British more law abiding than Americans? - 1/5/2011 4:45:59 AM   
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This user is on your "hidden" list and the post has been hidden.  

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RE: Are the British more law abiding than Americans? - 1/5/2011 4:50:00 AM   
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This user is on your "hidden" list and the post has been hidden.  

Oh look out. The Liar-Loon is among us :)

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RE: Are the British more law abiding than Americans? - 1/5/2011 5:03:21 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Real0ne

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its very easy to prove america is a feudal society and to dumb to know the difference lol



You're half right, I'll give you that - you have no trouble at all proving the second point in your argument.

The first point... well, that must not be as easy as you think, because in all your years of posting, you've never come within a mile of it.



to easy!

Look up knights service.

they would conquer land and divide it up among 60,000 knights sworn to protect the king.

Go to the northwest ordinance:
quote:

Provided, the constitution and government so to be formed, shall be republican, and in conformity to the principles contained in these articles; and, so far as it can be consistent with the general interest of the confederacy, such admission shall be allowed at an earlier period, and when there may be a less number of free inhabitants in the State than sixty thousand.
  (knights were considered franchised freemen)

How do you get out of knights service?  Well by paying the feud to the lord!
TAXES!

the title to your property is in fee simple

fee simple is "in fee"

in fee is in fealty to the lord

Your state is sovereign and you can only sue them with THEIR permission and then only what they are willing to ALLOW you to sue for.

quote:

Common law continued in force. SECTION 13. Such parts of the common law as are now in force in the territory of Wisconsin, not inconsistent with this constitution, shall be and continue part of the law of this state until altered or suspended by the legislature.

This section does not codify English common law circa 1776, but preserves law that by historical understanding is subject to continuing evolution under the judicial power. The supreme court court has authority not only to alter but also to abrogate the common law when appropriate. The court’s responsibility for altering or abolishing a common law rule does not end due to legislative failure to enact a statute
to the contrary. State v. Picotte, 2003 WI 42, 261 Wis. 2d 249, 661 N.W.2d 381,
01−3063.


Common law of 1776 goes all the way back to the 1215 Magna Charta and is secured not only in the wisconsin constitution but the federal constitution as well even though it is largely ignored.

So how do you plan on telling me that the definition fee simple has somehow changed?

I know!  You can tell me that you own your property in alod and you do not have to pay taxes on it for "services rendered by the sovereign king".  (state)

Can you do that? 

Welcome to the desert of the real peasant! 


LOL


I agree.   They want to make us just like the British.

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RE: Are the British more law abiding than Americans? - 1/5/2011 5:15:30 AM   
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I agree.   They want to make us just like the British.

I'm not entirely sure why you bother to comment on threads like this ... my understanding was that, in the US, gun licenses are not given to people with severe mental issues? Don't they do various checks on that when handing out guns there?

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RE: Are the British more law abiding than Americans? - 1/5/2011 5:43:15 AM   
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I know this is really hard for people to wrap their minds around but there is no functional difference.

All the king did is what we all knew but did not understand all along is that he created a bunch of corporations and sub corps and sub sub corps.

all corps have a prazeedante' and a treasury and one or more board of directors (house and senate) who vote for the shareholders of the corporation and a personnel department to adjudicate issues.

No conspiracy either (no good scum bag underhanded has hell right out of the dirty tricks play book deceit though), right in everyones face and everyone was told the truth right from the beginning but no one ever connected the dots and the reason why is because of how the information is presented.





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RE: Are the British more law abiding than Americans? - 1/5/2011 6:05:24 AM   
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I agree.  It needs to be busted up over RICO.

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RE: Are the British more law abiding than Americans? - 1/5/2011 6:43:50 AM   
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Oh, for christ's sake...

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RE: Are the British more law abiding than Americans? - 1/5/2011 10:15:00 AM   
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This place is starting to feel more and more like the twilight zone every day

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RE: Are the British more law abiding than Americans? - 1/5/2011 10:27:30 AM   
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This place is starting to feel more and more like the twilight zone every day

"PA controls the horizontal ... he controls the vertical* ... sadly, his internal TV is on the fritz".

*yeah ok, that's The Outer Limits, but it was too good a line to waste ;)

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RE: Are the British more law abiding than Americans? - 1/5/2011 10:28:39 AM   
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RE: Are the British more law abiding than Americans? - 1/5/2011 10:33:47 AM   
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RE: Are the British more law abiding than Americans? - 1/5/2011 1:16:38 PM   
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The Brits men are a docile and domesticated bunch.



FYP



I just read that out to Himself and we both had a good giggle at the thought of him being docile. As for domesticated no not even close.




There ain't much in the way of anarchy round these here parts. There are a few different political stripes, naturally, but by and large everyone is nicely tucked into the pack going about their business in a law abiding fashion within the established rules. Everyone's domesticated in the sense that Pahunk means it and this (lifestyle/whatever you want to call it) ain't exploring the boundaries of human endeavour considering just about everyone else is doing the same thing. Bizarrely, although not intriguingly, Pahunk thinks he's a rebel without a cause, but in reality is typing on the trappings of the consumer lifestyle, presumably in a home, with his faithful cat by his side; possibly watching American Idol and certainly nodding to the next neighbour in a neighbourly fashion as he goes past Pahunk's window on his way to purchase a pack of chicken wings from Walmart.

Everyone needs a dream, though, I suppose.

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RE: Are the British more law abiding than Americans? - 1/5/2011 1:23:51 PM   
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Pahunk thinks he's a rebel without a cause

*chortle*

Rebel without a clue would be more like it :)

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RE: Are the British more law abiding than Americans? - 1/5/2011 4:33:08 PM   
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Pahunk thinks he's a rebel without a cause

*chortle*

Rebel without a clue would be more like it :)


Or........Rebel without a pause.

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RE: Are the British more law abiding than Americans? - 1/5/2011 4:39:19 PM   
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Real One..... You spout nonsense about some long gone law from the middle ages, and fail to mention it was abolished long ago. I think you have serious problems understanding reality.

Knights Service is just one such instance, abolished at the time of the Restoration. Dont make me quote the law concerned and make you look stupid, as per usual.

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RE: Are the British more law abiding than Americans? - 1/5/2011 4:42:25 PM   
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Real One..... You spout nonsense about some long gone law from the middle ages, and fail to mention it was abolished long ago. I think you have serious problems understanding reality.

Indeed. I also didn't say so at the time, but I couldn't see what relevant point (if any) was being made.

So I just thought "oh, that's a bit odd", and left it :)

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RE: Are the British more law abiding than Americans? - 1/5/2011 4:58:22 PM   
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There ain't much in the way of anarchy round these here parts. There are a few different political stripes, naturally, but by and large everyone is nicely tucked into the pack going about their business in a law abiding fashion within the established rules. Everyone's domesticated in the sense that Pahunk means it and this (lifestyle/whatever you want to call it) ain't exploring the boundaries of human endeavour considering just about everyone else is doing the same thing. Bizarrely, although not intriguingly, Pahunk thinks he's a rebel without a cause, but in reality is typing on the trappings of the consumer lifestyle, presumably in a home, with his faithful cat by his side; possibly watching American Idol and certainly nodding to the next neighbour in a neighbourly fashion as he goes past Pahunk's window on his way to purchase a pack of chicken wings from Walmart.

Everyone needs a dream, though, I suppose.



well hang out in some of my legal threads and I will post parts of history books of how brit thugs wrote law (syntax terrorism) to fuck everyone over but the crown and their cronies.

We can start with substitution and false notion feudalism was abolished.  That cracks me up to no end.

Then we can second with commercialization where ordinary people wind up owned because they do not have a new york lawyer signing every document for them.

Everyone's domesticated

no dispute on that point


DOMESTICS. Those who reside in the same house with the master they serve.

DOMESTICATION. The taming of a wild animal to bring it under the dominion and control of its master.

(thats just so peeps understand "precisely" what you said :)


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