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LadyConstanze -> RE: Our time to part with Ginger is near. (1/3/2011 7:22:48 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Toppingfrmbottom LadyC, I can't speak to "peoples" reasons for it, but my reason wad so I could bring him home an put his ashes to rest in his fav places. Vs who knows where the crematorium people would dump them. I'd dreadfully unromantic here, but I think the living need us more than the dead, so I doubt Ginger will care what happens with her ashes, it's much more important to make her time here more comfortable and her goodbye as painless as possible. I understand people feel differently about it.

Phoenixpower -> RE: Our time to part with Ginger is near. (1/3/2011 7:43:06 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Toppingfrmbottom LadyC, I can't speak to "peoples" reasons for it, but my reason wad so I could bring him home an put his ashes to rest in his fav places. Vs who knows where the crematorium people would dump them. quote: ORIGINAL: LadyConstanze quote: ORIGINAL: LegsKnees Don't keep the ashes... I found the ashes of a pet in an urn on the mantle piece always a bit morbid. I do love my pets but I don't really see what keeping the ashes has to do with loving the pet. I guess it's an industry that brings quite a lot of money, but then so are "magic slimming pills".... Back home we were never offered that option...some of the cats remained at the vet (our first cats remained at the vet...I think...) however most of our cats are burried in the forest my mum owns and one is burried in a previous garden. Whilst I never thought about the option about having the ashes returned, as we had our own private graveyard for them back home, so to speak with the forest, since I heard it from other people on here who lost their pet I can understand TFB's view and think I would do the same if I would lose a pet outside of my country...it simply would be nicer for me to leave their ashes at a place where I would want them to rest. Though i wouldn't want to keep them in my flat or house either...so I simply would chose a nice place for them. Wishing ginger a safe journey of the rainbow bridge (((((hugs))))) Tfb and (((((scritches))))) to ginger

anniezz338 -> RE: Our time to part with Ginger is near. (1/3/2011 7:44:07 AM)
I didn't keep the ashes either. When I put mine down, his vet gave me a beautiful copy of Rainbow Bridge with his paw print to the side on the bottom. I cut out a little pic of him for the other side and it is nicely framed, with his favorite toy sitting in front of it. Best to you....

GreedyTop -> RE: Our time to part with Ginger is near. (1/3/2011 7:50:39 AM)
I have Gracious's ashes, because when I move again (which is kind of inevitable, with me) I wanted something tangible to take with me. Her brother is buried at my mom's old house, I can visit him any time. I can also visit my old dog, where she is resting. LadyC.. I understand it's something you dont GET, and thats ok..

Phoenixpower -> RE: Our time to part with Ginger is near. (1/3/2011 8:11:49 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: GreedyTop I have Gracious's ashes, because when I move again (which is kind of inevitable, with me) I wanted something tangible to take with me. Her brother is buried at my mom's old house, I can visit him any time. I can also visit my old dog, where she is resting. LadyC.. I understand it's something you dont GET, and thats ok.. now GT made me aware to rethink my view if I then would leave my furrys ashes here...so fingers crossed my furrys remain with me until I leave here...as the chance to return to here would be nil and it would make sense to keep them until the resting place is one which is easily within reach...until I decided in which country to move to for good I guess that would mean for me to post them home and then bring them to our garden or forest...instead of leaving it here somewhere... gosh thats enlightening today [:o] Thanks for that thought Tfb and GT [:)]

Kirata -> RE: Our time to part with Ginger is near. (1/3/2011 8:22:26 AM)
When I had to put one of my pals down, as much as I knew it would hurt I figured better me than him. But I didn't know how much it would hurt. Not even close. I swore I would never do that again, never, better that Nature take its course than I ever do that again to an animal I love. But when I look at Aiki, I know that I will if I have to. Same reason. Better me than him. I am so sorry you have to face this. Kirata

Hillwilliam -> RE: Our time to part with Ginger is near. (1/3/2011 8:58:45 AM)
I've had to put a couple down over the years. When they give you that look that says "Daddy, it HURTS too bad" You know it's time.

GreedyTop -> RE: Our time to part with Ginger is near. (1/3/2011 9:02:23 AM)
or the "I know you want me stay... and I love you and would LIKE to saty.. but I can't" look

Phoenixpower -> RE: Our time to part with Ginger is near. (1/3/2011 11:21:41 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Kirata When I had to put one of my pals down, as much as I knew it would hurt I figured better me than him. But I didn't know how much it would hurt. Not even close. I swore I would never do that again, never, better that Nature take its course than I ever do that again to an animal I love. But when I look at Aiki, I know that I will if I have to. Same reason. Better me than him. I am so sorry you have to face this. Kirata totally agree....my mom made the mistake with her last cat (as mentioned in the past at a different thread) and did not let her enter the rainbow bridge via the vet. Her cat had cancer and the vet was astonished that she was still alive as her white bloodcells were way too high (or whatever count it was from her blood), so in the vets view she should already have died due to the blood results. Nevertheless my mom could not let her die on that day due to the look she got from her cat at that time and a few days later she was then run over from a family friend as he had not realised that she was lieing underneath his parked car. As hard as it is to do such decisions I am sure that our furry friends appreciate not to suffer any longer than necessary.

pahunkboy -> RE: Our time to part with Ginger is near. (1/3/2011 11:27:23 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Phoenixpower quote: ORIGINAL: Kirata When I had to put one of my pals down, as much as I knew it would hurt I figured better me than him. But I didn't know how much it would hurt. Not even close. I swore I would never do that again, never, better that Nature take its course than I ever do that again to an animal I love. But when I look at Aiki, I know that I will if I have to. Same reason. Better me than him. I am so sorry you have to face this. Kirata totally agree....my mom made the mistake with her last cat (as mentioned in the past at a different thread) and did not let her enter the rainbow bridge via the vet. Her cat had cancer and the vet was astonished that she was still alive as her white bloodcells were way too high (or whatever count it was from her blood), so in the vets view she should already have died due to the blood results. Nevertheless my mom could not let her die on that day due to the look she got from her cat at that time and a few days later she was then run over from a family friend as he had not realised that she was lieing underneath his parked car. As hard as it is to do such decisions I am sure that our furry friends appreciate not to suffer any longer than necessary. That sounds like something I would have accidentally done too.

LadyNTrainer -> RE: Our time to part with Ginger is near. (1/3/2011 11:37:15 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Toppingfrmbottom The SPCA will do it for 35 if we don't wanna be with her for the end, and if we do it's 135, you have to have an appointment, and they only do it Sunday and Tuesday, and have no appointments availible this Tuesday. I'm debating whether to state the reasons that euthanasia protocol differs in cost depending on whether the owners are present. I can't speak for every branch of the SPCA, but in some low cost clinics the drugs used are different (additional pre-meds) to avoid causing the appearance of distress to the animal, in addition to the "assembly line" versus individual attention protocols where volunteers and assistants do much of the procedure under varying degrees of veterinary supervision. In either case it is (usually) appropriately humane, but you may be subject to regrets if you ever see an "assembly line" euth. The results of some commonly used humane euthanasia drugs without the expensive pre-med anesthesia protocol can appear distressing to a non veterinary professional even when it is not actually so to the animal.

Toppingfrmbottom -> RE: Our time to part with Ginger is near. (1/3/2011 2:52:18 PM)
Thank you Zevar. Your kind words are muchly welcomed. I am just glad going to the local vet was a possibility, it's allowing me to be with her and see her to the end. quote: ORIGINAL: Zevar TFB: Having loved a special pet who had similiar health issues, I understand. I wish you courage and comfort during this time of dealing with your special pet in a most dignified manner. BIG hugs to you!

Toppingfrmbottom -> RE: Our time to part with Ginger is near. (1/3/2011 2:54:31 PM)
Yeah, and it turned out that I didnt even want to open his box, that's not the image I want in my head, or the last image of my beautiful lil boy doggie. So his box just sits there an takes up room on my nick nack shelf. I'll make Ginger a box for her momento's and it'll be way specialer than anything her ashes could of come home in, because it came from my heart and my hands. quote: ORIGINAL: LadyConstanze I'd dreadfully unromantic here, but I think the living need us more than the dead, so I doubt Ginger will care what happens with her ashes, it's much more important to make her time here more comfortable and her goodbye as painless as possible. I understand people feel differently about it.

Toppingfrmbottom -> RE: Our time to part with Ginger is near. (1/3/2011 2:59:16 PM)
I hadn't either, until my CockerSpaniel, and now Ginger, I've had pets die, that's not unusual for kids who grew up having pets. With sparky I was afraid I was going to wake up in the morning and find him dead, hardest night ever. He was so sick and so limp, and around 3 in the morning his stomach started making these horrible growling noises, an he was hungry but I didn't know if he could eat, so I called the emergency vets an they said yes, even with euth in the morning, he could eat. So he had a wonderful last meal. quote: ORIGINAL: rosanegra I've never gone through euthanizing a pet.. I have lost a pet though, and traumatically, so I know it hurts like hell. For many people a pet is like a child, and while we know we will most likely outlive them, it doesn't make it any easier to say goodbye. My heart goes out to you. The only solace I can give you is that I know a dog's love is pure, and innocent.. and I believe that if there is a heaven, all dogs really do go there. So she will be free from a world of pain and while I am sure she will miss you, she will be in a better place.

JstAnotherSub -> RE: Our time to part with Ginger is near. (1/3/2011 3:01:15 PM)
Hang in there . When I had my furbaby Razor put to sleep a few years ago, they brought him wrapped in a blanket and i layed on the floor next to him and talked to him. Oh man, the memory just made me start crying. My son couldnt stand to stay, but when he pulled a "goodie" out of his pocket and gave it to Razor and kissed him then walked away, well, the tears came just like they have right now. They brought me Razors body, ready for burial, and we took him home and buried him in the yard. Let the tears flow. Fighting them is futile.

Toppingfrmbottom -> RE: Our time to part with Ginger is near. (1/3/2011 3:01:55 PM)
Thank you Greedy, She's been in bed off and on all morning an we been hugging her an petting her an loving on her. She even shared some of my pizza crust with me. The anti nasia meds they gave her yesterday did wonders for making her want to eat again, not her own dog food, no, she only has eyes for the good stuff, the humans food lol. I'm letting her share my food but not so much it'd overload her tummy. quote: ORIGINAL: GreedyTop I'm sitting here crying for you, tftb.. I am sending many hugs for you, and scritchites for Ginger.

Toppingfrmbottom -> RE: Our time to part with Ginger is near. (1/3/2011 3:05:14 PM)
For Sparky, I kept his collar and his tags and his favorite squeaky ball, the ball disapered, don't know where it went, but his collar I still have an his adoption papers. I have a dog stamp that is the shape and size of a paw print, I will always know it's not ginger's it's from a stamp but I may make an ink copy of a paw print, we made a clay one an a plaster of paris one. quote: ORIGINAL: anniezz338 I didn't keep the ashes either. When I put mine down, his vet gave me a beautiful copy of Rainbow Bridge with his paw print to the side on the bottom. I cut out a little pic of him for the other side and it is nicely framed, with his favorite toy sitting in front of it. Best to you....

Toppingfrmbottom -> RE: Our time to part with Ginger is near. (1/3/2011 3:11:26 PM)
Kirata, this is the second animal I have who had terminal illness * instead of old age death* and watching them suffer an start to die, it makes you want to swear off another animal for good, but I won't close that option down. I don't want one now and for a good long time from now, but my being animal less won't be permenant. Thank you for your kind words. quote: ORIGINAL: Kirata When I had to put one of my pals down, as much as I knew it would hurt I figured better me than him. But I didn't know how much it would hurt. Not even close. I swore I would never do that again, never, better that Nature take its course than I ever do that again to an animal I love. But when I look at Aiki, I know that I will if I have to. Same reason. Better me than him. I am so sorry you have to face this. Kirata

Toppingfrmbottom -> RE: Our time to part with Ginger is near. (1/3/2011 3:15:26 PM)
When the vet told me my Cockerspaniel was dying, I looked at him looked at her and said but he's my baby, and started crying, Dr Hendry had tears in her eyes too. Sparky licked my face then, and since he was never much of a kisser, I feel that was his attempt to comfort me an tell me it's ok. I took him home for one more night with him, an then held him an rocked him on webcam, I never played the video again, don't know where it is on my pc even any more, but it felt right to me to make it. quote: ORIGINAL: JstAnotherSub Hang in there . When I had my furbaby Razor put to sleep a few years ago, they brought him wrapped in a blanket and i layed on the floor next to him and talked to him. Oh man, the memory just made me start crying. My son couldnt stand to stay, but when he pulled a "goodie" out of his pocket and gave it to Razor and kissed him then walked away, well, the tears came just like they have right now. They brought me Razors body, ready for burial, and we took him home and buried him in the yard. Let the tears flow. Fighting them is futile.

Norwester -> RE: Our time to part with Ginger is near. (1/3/2011 3:28:46 PM)
I don't spend a lot of time in the forums here, so I really don't know any of the people here, including the OP, but as I read all the posts I find my eyes filling with tears yet again. Like another commenter, it has been two years this month since my last dog was put down. Well, I say my dog, but in reality, she had become so much more. My wife ath the time talked me in to a breed I really didn't care for, but one look at that little ball of fur and I was in love. She was officially our dog, but ironically, she acted more like mine. That changed the day we brought or son home from the hospital. From that day on she was HIS. The condition that killed her was an autoimmune disease that attacked her own red blood cells, robbing her body of oxygen and energy. She was completely helpless and unable to lift her head at the end, but when I told the vet that my son was being brought in to say goodbye, and she heard me mention him by name, she mustered the energy to sit up -- the last act she ever made. When they euthanized her, we were there with her, petting her and praising her, letting her know she had pleased us to the end. She let out a little sigh and was gone. When we take a pet, we make two commitments: To keep them as long as they live, and to let them go when it's their time to die. I couldn't ask her to go on suffering just because I couldn't bear to say goodbye. You've done the right thing, as hard as it was, and I commend you, and shed some of these tears on your behalf.

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