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RE: Arizona Democrat Congresswoman and 11 others shot - 1/9/2011 8:16:56 AM   
EternalHoH


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ORIGINAL: pahunkboy

Sheriff blames free speech as likely cause of Arizona massacre




No, the Sheriff did NOT blame free speech.  Some guy who writes a column "took it there". That columnist is just some guy who didnt learn from yesterday's lesson that fabricating outrageous assumptions and putting them in print is part of the problem.

The Sheriff blamed irresponsible vitriol, irresponsible free speech.

Just like the guy who shouts 'fire' in a crowded theater and who is responsible for 6 trampling deaths is guilty of irresponsible free speech..

The Sheriff is just the guy who is at this ground zero, picking up the bodies.  He's the guy being handed outrageous mandates by a state legislature just as crazy and guilty of vitriol as the shooter.



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RE: Arizona Democrat Congresswoman and 11 others shot - 1/9/2011 8:23:42 AM   
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ORIGINAL: TheHeretic

Given the tone and direction of the conversation here, it seems appropriate to me to post this editorial from today's LA Times.

Shooting from the lip in reaction to Gabrielle Giffords tragedy




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RE: Arizona Democrat Congresswoman and 11 others shot - 1/9/2011 8:26:16 AM   
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No one here wishes you pain levels.  People have a right to have a say so in their medical treatment- to include opiates for pain.

Some of you posts in the past hinted that you were overly doped up, when using unbecoming language to express your thoughts.

IMO many people have been there- in regards to some sort of medical thing.  Some worse then others.

If you are nothing but nice to others- then such a comment would be mean. However- you have displayed contempt for others and now you do not like when it is done to you.

Either way-  pain sucks, and I hope you succeed in remedies of  the pain levels.

/high jack

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RE: Arizona Democrat Congresswoman and 11 others shot - 1/9/2011 9:06:18 AM   
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Status: offline 		The DailyKos put a BULLSEYE on Gabrille Giffords way back in 2008, and again just two days before the shooting. Of course, the DailyKos removed same right after the shooting.

http://hillbuzz.org/2011/01/08/my-congresswoman-voted-against-nancy-pelosi-and-is-now-dead-to-me-eerie-daily-kos-hit-piece-on-gabrielle-giffords-just-two-days-before-assassination-attempt-on-her/

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RE: Arizona Democrat Congresswoman and 11 others shot - 1/9/2011 9:13:28 AM   
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RE: Arizona Democrat Congresswoman and 11 others shot - 1/9/2011 9:13:46 AM   
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RE: Arizona Democrat Congresswoman and 11 others shot - 1/9/2011 9:15:06 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Kirata


quote:

ORIGINAL: TheHeretic

Given the tone and direction of the conversation here, it seems appropriate to me to post this editorial from today's LA Times.

Shooting from the lip in reaction to Gabrielle Giffords tragedy






I agree, that was a great post.


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RE: Arizona Democrat Congresswoman and 11 others shot - 1/9/2011 9:15:33 AM   
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RE: Arizona Democrat Congresswoman and 11 others shot - 1/9/2011 9:18:15 AM   
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ANYone that thinks, constant words eluding to violent actions do not have an impact of the human conscious at some level, is a fool.


That is correct, and anyone who thinks that only those on the right or only those on the left do it are equally as stupid.


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RE: Arizona Democrat Congresswoman and 11 others shot - 1/9/2011 9:19:19 AM   
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Status: offline 		Exactly LT. But, as so many have pointed out, to point a finger at any one person for causing this person to go off the deep end in such a horrific way... just cant be done.

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RE: Arizona Democrat Congresswoman and 11 others shot - 1/9/2011 9:19:44 AM   
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ORIGINAL: LaTigresse

ANYone that thinks, constant words eluding to violent actions do not have an impact of the human conscious at some level, is a fool.




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RE: Arizona Democrat Congresswoman and 11 others shot - 1/9/2011 9:20:48 AM   
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Status: offline 		We can't honestly say that target graphics have a direct link to political assassinations no. The debate should be at a slightly higher level such as why do people, who can communicate with clarity, choose to use language in a blunt way that leads to misinterpretation?

Furthermore why isn't there much clarification of a statement when proxies put a different meaning to those statements? Sometimes letting people misinterpret you is convenient. Means you can up the hostility but not own such hostility. If someone was saying things on my behalf, people that barely knew me, you could be sure that I'd be doing all I could to make sure such misinterpretations or blatant misrepresentations didn't stand on the record.

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RE: Arizona Democrat Congresswoman and 11 others shot - 1/9/2011 9:21:10 AM   
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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

Exactly LT. But, as so many have pointed out, to point a finger at any one person for causing this person to go off the deep end in such a horrific way... just cant be done.


I was never suggesting it was any one person. It has been a collective. I believe I said I felt that was the case in my previous post.

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RE: Arizona Democrat Congresswoman and 11 others shot - 1/9/2011 9:24:43 AM   
tazzygirl


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Status: offline 		Not you, LT. Others have been fingerpointing all over the place... mostly towards Palin. While i believe her choices in regards to the bullseyes were bad choices, that alone did not make all this happen. No single event did. But combined, in agreement with you, i cannot believe it didnt affect many.

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RE: Arizona Democrat Congresswoman and 11 others shot - 1/9/2011 9:28:42 AM   
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Status: offline 		Lest we should think it's just the lefties trying to make political hay from this atrocity:

What a fucking bunch of shits.


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RE: Arizona Democrat Congresswoman and 11 others shot - 1/9/2011 9:32:50 AM   
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RE: Arizona Democrat Congresswoman and 11 others shot - 1/9/2011 9:34:33 AM   
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RE: Arizona Democrat Congresswoman and 11 others shot - 1/9/2011 9:36:01 AM   
Moonhead


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RE: Arizona Democrat Congresswoman and 11 others shot - 1/9/2011 9:40:01 AM   
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Status: offline 		I hope you don't think they are righties.

I am surprised, with all the hate and unbalanced souls, no one has targeted this hate group.

Maybe there is a Devil

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RE: Arizona Democrat Congresswoman and 11 others shot - 1/9/2011 9:40:46 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Moonhead

Well, they're hardly going to point the finger at Palin, are they?


LOL.  Yup.

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