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CreativeDominant -> RE: Maybe the Republican party needs a voice of sanity? (1/13/2011 12:48:32 PM)
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ORIGINAL: SlaveOwnerDave
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ORIGINAL: CreativeDominant
My use of the Raum Emmanuel example was to illustrate to those who seem to feel that the inflammation only comes from the right that there are plenty of examples from the left. But when we now find ourselves in a time in which a tragedy has occurred, all you hear from the pundits on the left is that...somehow...the tragedy is the right's fault. Palin put cross-hairs on different places on the map to show districts being targeted? Cries of "warfare" and "violent images". Obama, in speaking of dealing with the Republicans, states that they are the enemy and need to face payback...speaks of bringing a gun to a knife-fight. When this is pointed out as being similar in violent images, the pundits state that it is just a "display of passion and temerity and resolve". I...and others...call bullshit.
We are to believe, then, the daily multi-hour multi-channel barrage of hate radio comes from "the left"? If you can point out anywhere that I...or several others...stated that it did, please show me. What HAS been stated is that the left is just as guilty...if there is guilt to be had...of hateful rhetoric and behavior.
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That this barrage has absolutely zero power on those who listen to it?
If hate radio has no effect, then why is it well funded? Several answers here. If you are one of those people who believes that what is stated on the radio has an effect on people, I agree. I hear many things on the radio and on T.V. and see at the movies and read in books and magazines and newspapers that have an effect on me. What my friends and even...sometimes...my enemies say has on effect on me. That said...and conceded...no, I do not believe that it is any more responsible for someone shooting someone else than I believe that watching a movie advocating the assassination of G. Bush can push someone into doing so. No, I do not believe that a twinkie can cause someone to commit murder. No, I do not believe that the lyrics to certain rock songs can cause someone to commit murder. This is MY argument against those...from the right or left...who would argue for censorship of such movies or video games or food or music. But as noted earlier...when someone calls for the censorship of such movies or music or video games, it is usually the left who decries such action...citing "freedom of speech/freedom of expression". That cuts both ways. I've cited several examples of inflammatory rhetoric from the left. The fact that you do not hear more of it on the radio is because such programs as Al Franken's (when he was on there) and J. Garafolo and others of their ilk on AirAmerica were not well-listened to. Programs such as Limbaugh's and Beck's are well-funded because they appeal to a vast audience and sponsors are smart enough to recognize it.
And before I get off this part...remember that what you might think of as "hate speech" may indeed be passionate, may come across as hateful if you disagree, but if it truly were "hate speech", the perpetrators would be called into court...as they would be if they were urging their listeners to violence.
In any case, most conservative people have left the Republican Party, as the far right took over. The far right are not conservative. They are activist, reactionary, and hateful. These are not traits of conservative people! These are not traits of Americans!
You are right...the far right AND the far left are activist, reactionary and hateful. But those on the left tend to see many on the right as activist, reactionary, and hateful...just as those on the right tend to see in characters such as Ward Churchill, Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, Al Gore. It depends on your perspective.
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