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RE: Dying alone, some thoughts... - 1/13/2011 8:48:31 AM   
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I know at least one person who will die alone. It's a consequence of the life that was lived, and the choices that were made about how to live, and how to treat others during that life. If I take the trouble to imagine what it might be like, I think it would genuinely suck, and that seems appropriate.

This resonated with Me more than anything else.  I have to wonder to Myself if folks in this situation ponder where they have put themselves in regards to dying alone.  I really do see the difference between folks who are alone due to circumstances and those who have made sure they have driven everyone away because of the type of person that they are.

As to the topic itself, the alone part doesn't worry Me so much.  Sure, there could be some kind of hideous car crash or such, but I'm not really counting on it.  The way I see it, I'll either be with MP or he'll have gone first and I'll be waiting to be with MP.  Neither of which disturbs Me a great deal.


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RE: Dying alone, some thoughts... - 1/13/2011 8:52:29 AM   
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Duuuuude!!!! Finally someone says it outloud. Jaybeee = JB = JonnieBoy...?   I don't know but it seems and sounds very possible.


you're not the only one.

and yes, he should die alone.  Painfully.

*eta:  I have had that bit said to me by several sources...online and off*

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RE: Dying alone, some thoughts... - 1/13/2011 8:53:49 AM   
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I have been a witness to many dying and i believe we do not make that journey alone.

Does God send an angel as an escort? Does a deceased loved one come to us so we do not walk alone? I have no idea how to explain it without sounding like an idiot.



I know exactly what you mean Holly and believe that this is true.  My sister in law's sister sees people and when their dad died on the NYE just gone she was able to tell us which family members were around him.  It was kind of cool, when my brother and another relative if her dad's showed up she said that these were the final two people and they were there to take him away .... and he died.

I used to look after people who chose to die at home, these were people who often had been cut off from family and friends.  One man I looked after was in the final stages of AIDS related illnesses.  After my shift ended on the afternoon I was there there was about an hour gap between me and the enxt person coming along.  My friend said goodbye to me as usual.  He was very frail so I gave him a very gentle hug and kiss as every time I said goodbye I didn't know if he would still be alive the next time I saw him.

Less than an hour later I got a phone call to say he had suicided.  He planned it so that he would die alone as he didn't want to upset any of us.  He left details and called the emergency services just before he died to ensure they got there before the next carer was due. My heart broke that he died alone but I also know that he wanted his dignity intact so I understood his decision.


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RE: Dying alone, some thoughts... - 1/13/2011 8:55:29 AM   
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RE: Dying alone, some thoughts... - 1/13/2011 8:58:17 AM   
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smiles and gives you a warm hug

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RE: Dying alone, some thoughts... - 1/13/2011 9:02:38 AM   
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about as glad as*I* am?

miss you sweet lady......

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RE: Dying alone, some thoughts... - 1/13/2011 9:08:05 AM   
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bawwwww thread.

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RE: Dying alone, some thoughts... - 1/13/2011 12:49:37 PM   
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I just hope I can return as an evil spectre that haunts children. 

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RE: Dying alone, some thoughts... - 1/13/2011 1:20:36 PM   
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You are a brave woman, Lockit.

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RE: Dying alone, some thoughts... - 1/13/2011 2:03:21 PM   
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When you have untreated multiple personality disorder, you're never alone 8)

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RE: Dying alone, some thoughts... - 1/13/2011 7:50:13 PM   
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bawwwww thread.


Says the 26 year old.

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RE: Dying alone, some thoughts... - 1/14/2011 2:10:19 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Carouselambra

bawwwww thread.


Says the 26 year old.


Have you ever taken a look at your own profile picture?

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RE: Dying alone, some thoughts... - 1/14/2011 2:14:46 AM   
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ORIGINAL: GreedyTop

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Duuuuude!!!! Finally someone says it outloud. Jaybeee = JB = JonnieBoy...?   I don't know but it seems and sounds very possible.


you're not the only one.

and yes, he should die alone.  Painfully.

*eta:  I have had that bit said to me by several sources...online and off*


Oops..clarifying here:

I meant the OP, not my ex, as far as the second sentence went.

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RE: Dying alone, some thoughts... - 1/14/2011 5:08:58 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Aynne88

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ORIGINAL: Carouselambra

bawwwww thread.


Says the 26 year old.


Have you ever taken a look at your own profile picture?


No Einstein, only everytime I log on. Where's yours? I remember what you look like but maybe for the others to see the pissant hiding behind a made up profile. Super brave. Are you pissed at being outed? By pissed I mean in the American sense, because we all know if you are awake, you are generally pissed in the British sense if it's after oh I'd say 10 a.m.?

What's with all the trolls lately, little snarky mouthed brats making ignorant comments trying to "out uber goth cool" each other and then of course you Pirate, with your ****YAWN**** obsession with defacing the military? Get a new schtick. Oh and come on, post a pic. I wanna see who you think you are.

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RE: Dying alone, some thoughts... - 1/14/2011 5:17:23 AM   
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Aynne.. dearling.. seriously.. it's not worth it..

sit back down ;)

and ponder the idea that I might be moving to Northern MA... *grins* 

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RE: Dying alone, some thoughts... - 1/14/2011 5:22:26 AM   
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Greedy!!!! Do it :) Seriously that would be so awesome, when you get a chance cmail me and fill me in.

Yes, as far as Baybeee goes, I think I am just going to let the moderators deal with him, hopefully trolling and useless inflammatory on every single thread especially more serious ones is still considered a bannable offense. I mean of course he will come back as some new and unimproved reincarnation of douchebaggery, but his mentality and sociopathic behavior give him away eventually. I think he should try coming back as a Domme next time, a lesbian one, with a hot profile pic. Might take a tad longer to out him then.   

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RE: Dying alone, some thoughts... - 1/14/2011 5:58:55 AM   
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Aynne, you just love this don't you ? Chomping at the bit for a challenge. I like that.

Really this is way better than TV. I thrive on this, I watch alliances change as swiftly as the wind. People take all kinds of different positions and the strange bedfellows (in the colloquial sense) are quite interesting. Tooth and nail you may see, but give to us a common enemy.

Why have weapons if not for a foe (or game lol). Why have locks on the doors ? They keep us on our toes.

Think of JB right now. He has made humself a whipping boy. He has actually allowed us to express more support for the troops. Think about it. Would the discussion ever gone that far if not for his............my vocabulary again fails me.

As much as some people need their ass kicked, they do, in a way provide a service.

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RE: Dying alone, some thoughts... - 1/14/2011 6:07:06 AM   
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i think sometimes i would rather die alone, or at least not be aware that other people were there. whatever happens when we die is complex, i think, and it's impossible to really relate what's happening to people who are left behind. if you feel happy that you're dying, how do you explain that to people who can only see through the lens of their loss and grief?
though... if people were there, it might let them say goodbye.
i watched my grandfather die, and i watched my late M float away to his death. being a "spectator" is difficult, because there's not a lot you can do. i would rather spare someone that... watching hasn't helped me with the grief, if anything it made me hold onto too much hope, or go into denial, or become unable to let go.

i've also heard that the brain releases a huge wave of endorphins, so maybe it's not so horrible and scary, but... obviously none of us can really know.

one of my biggest anxiety triggers is thinking about people who are aware that their lives are ending and they can't do anything about it. for some reason that scares me like nothing else.

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RE: Dying alone, some thoughts... - 1/14/2011 6:36:44 AM   
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*fast reply*
forgetting that jaybee is probably Greedy's ex...it's actually a good topic.
I was with my mom when she died. I was the last person she saw on this earth and the last words she heard was "I love you"
I wouldn't change that for the world. I think it's an honor to be with someone when they die. I held my newborn son in my arms when he died and my father was surrounded for the whole week prior to his death by all four of his daughters.
He chose to die when I was out getting his meds and my one other sister was out doing legal stuff for him.
He chose to have my one sister next to him who he had the most difficult relationship with. I think that was done purposefully as it mended all wounds for her.
I would not want to die alone.


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RE: Dying alone, some thoughts... - 1/14/2011 6:44:14 AM   
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Not quite edited enough ... it's "hear hear".

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