WyldHrt
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hmmm. Can you explain that further please?? Why child care providers??
The child care scam is different from the rest of what you posted. It goes like this:
You, a child care provider, are contacted by someone who says that they are relocating temporarily to your town (often, they will say that they are coming from overseas for a conference or some such). They tell you that they will be there for whatever amount of time and will need child care. They will go into great detail about themselves and the children, even sending pictures. Once you are comfy and have spoken to them on the phone and exchanged many emails, they will offer to pay the full cost of care for the upcoming trip in advance. A week later, you receive a check or money order and deposit it. A few days later, you will get a call or an email saying that the trip has been canceled (the reasons vary and can be quite inventive), and a request for a refund. The scammer will be sure to tell you to wait until the check 'clears' and keep $100 or so for your trouble.
Of course, the check is fake and the scam ends as all fake check scams do. As I said in a previous post, most people do not understand how long it really takes a check to clear the issuing bank and will send the 'refund' within a few days of seeing the money in their account. A few weeks later, the check bounces and the victim's bank takes the full amount from their account, often overdrawing it. If the victim can't pay, the bank will go straight to the police.
The hotel scam works much the same way, prepaying for a room and then canceling the reservation and requesting a refund
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Anyhoo, a lady was interested (always called me from work) and we had planned to meet (she was interested in part time care for when she went to the gym and the cooking). The day before we were to meet she calls and says she is busy and rarely home, and asked if she could use my home address to have stuff from online purchases (e-bay??) delivered to my home because I am home most days. Seriously, I said, 'uhh what exactly are you having delivered???', she said 'mostly electronics'. I told her, well, I haven't even met you yet!! I never did either, I stopped answering her calls, bla bla...she kept calling for almost a month LOL (she must have been pretty desperate--not like I am the ONLY babysitter in this town, eeesh). She never left a message but the caller ID showed up, sometimes she would call several times/day.
So what was her game?? Why the bogus story about me getting her packages?? Is the chit stolen (credit card frauds)?? or what??
DomeinCT nailed it. The scam is that the electronics are paid for with credit card or Paypal details that have been phished (the same scammers that run these types of scams are also responsible for those lovely emails telling people that their Paypal or bank account will be frozen if they don't click a link and 'log in' to confirm their details). Those details are then used to purchase things, usually electronics, that are shipped to an unsuspecting victim who innocently sends them on, unaware that they are committing a crime.
Fall for the scam, and you become what is known as a 'mule'; a situation that often ends with the victim facing charges for receiving stolen goods. This one is particularly effective when the victim is involved in a love scam. Love scammers are the bottom of the barrel when it comes to this type of scum, often turning their victims into mules who either cash fake checks, receive packages of fake checks and send them on to other victims (so that they come from an address in the same country), or receive packages of stolen goods.
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actually came4 you could scam a scammer here. Not without risk but it wouldn't be all that bad. First of all they will want to use your name if an ID is required. Just sign for it and keep it. Then say it was a gift. Then give out the name of the scammer. It falls on them and you might just get some nice free stuff.
Just be aware that doing this is NOT without risk. Don't even do it. I'm just saying that it can be done.
No, it can't, and trying it would be a great way to end up behind bars. Give out the name of the scammer and you are off the hook? Are you kidding, Termy? Not in a million years.
The whole reason that mules are used in the first place is that, when the authorities start poking around, the paper trail leads right to the mule and no further. That said, once a person becomes a mule, the packages keep on coming. Gonna try to tell the cops that the 15 DVD players, 30 laptops, 20 digicams and 10 external hard drives, all purchased with stolen cc details from different people, were gifts? It's not gonna fly. They will land on you with both feet because you are the only one they can land on.
For the scammers, there is no risk. Worst case scenario, they don't get the goodies and are out a few hours of computer time and some calls made from a throwaway cell phone. They are in a different country and the authorities will not mess with the jurisdictional issues... they wouldn't even if they could find the scammer at all, which they can't. Far simpler for them to bust the mule and chalk up an easy conviction.
The plain fact this that some of these scams are way more involved than most people know. The people running them move millions of dollars around the world every year, often using one victim to back up the bullshit they feed to 10 more, and the police can't do a thing about it.
ETA- Even if claiming a package was a gift would fly with the cops, you wouldn't be scamming the scammer; you would be stealing from the person or company who sold the goods. When the owner of the credit card used reports it stolen, the cc company will do a chargeback on any purchases made, and guess who is out both the product and the money?
I'll give you a hint: It sure as hell isn't the idiot who clickied the linky on a phishing email or the credit card company.
< Message edited by WyldHrt -- 1/17/2011 11:28:26 PM >
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