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RE: What totally and completely does it for you? - 1/19/2011 8:39:08 PM   
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It's not one thing but a
compound of trust + chemistry + control + intense passion + focus + love = unconditional absolute surrender.

I will settle for nothing less..............

See and there was no fetish or kinky toy involved.

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RE: What totally and completely does it for you? - 1/19/2011 8:43:33 PM   
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It's just knowing I have someone to please.

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RE: What totally and completely does it for you? - 1/20/2011 7:45:25 AM   
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There. Find something really nice in that. :)


LOL! O how shalt I begin? :)

Thanks very much for this contribution :)

Mysouldesire said:
"See and there was no fetish or kinky toy involved. :)"

Would it bother you if I told you I still got off on it? ;)

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RE: What totally and completely does it for you? - 1/20/2011 1:42:59 PM   
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mysouldesire could not have said it more beautifully!

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RE: What totally and completely does it for you? - 1/20/2011 1:47:18 PM   
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My fist in her up to my elbo....still working on it tsk tsk

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RE: What totally and completely does it for you? - 1/20/2011 2:13:42 PM   
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As someone else said, being afraid while knowing I'm safe with him.  Knowing that he's going to do terrible things to me, often things I don't really want him to do, and that I have no choice in the matter.  Knowing that he loves me even as he's hurting me - that's he's hurting me because he loves me and wants me - and that when it's over he'll be there to pick up the pieces.

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RE: What totally and completely does it for you? - 1/20/2011 2:20:43 PM   
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As someone else said, being afraid while knowing I'm safe with him.  Knowing that he's going to do terrible things to me, often things I don't really want him to do, and that I have no choice in the matter.  Knowing that he loves me even as he's hurting me - that's he's hurting me because he loves me and wants me - and that when it's over he'll be there to pick up the pieces.



or he loves to hurt you


a girl I can't hurt bores me, but then my definition of hurt is a little more brutal than most

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RE: What totally and completely does it for you? - 1/20/2011 2:52:10 PM   
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or he loves to hurt you

a girl I can't hurt bores me, but then my definition of hurt is a little more brutal than most


Yes he does love to hurt me.  And when he does it, believe me, he really hurts me.  But loving me and causing me pain are intimately connected.  He does hurt me because he loves me - not to please me, but because it's much more fun for him to hurt someone that he has that kind of connection with.  To a sadist of his type, tears are sweeter when they're coming from someone you love.

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RE: What totally and completely does it for you? - 1/20/2011 3:01:10 PM   
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quote:

To a sadist of his type, tears are sweeter when they're coming from someone you love.
ORIGINAL: MaxsGirl


this i can totally understand.

i love the dichotomy of a person who can love me AND hurt me. that is a pretty big thing for me.

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RE: What totally and completely does it for you? - 1/20/2011 5:40:04 PM   
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ORIGINAL: CaringandReal

:D You nailed me.

People are giving really inspired answers to the question though. I'm finding something really nice in all of them. :)


I think the answer evolves over time. Right now I find more enjoyment in the aspects that incite physical and mental torment. Although tenderness has its place, it's the former that I cannot live without. And in a roundabout way I find those acts gentle in their own right.

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RE: What totally and completely does it for you? - 1/20/2011 7:33:53 PM   
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him realizing that im not capable of taking care of myself and doing a good job at it. the fact that he can make decisions for me and they would ultimately be better for me in the long run than the ones i would make for myself. i can just lay there and be at his mercy, he can do any and everything he wants to me taking complete power over me in every way possible.

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RE: What totally and completely does it for you? - 1/21/2011 4:41:42 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: porcelaine

I think the answer evolves over time. Right now I find more enjoyment in the aspects that incite physical and mental torment. Although tenderness has its place, it's the former that I cannot live without. And in a roundabout way I find those acts gentle in their own right.

Namaste,

~porcelaine



Good points you bring up. I find the prioritization of needs or wants very interesting. If I may follow up on your two traits, imagine for a moment the torment (or rather periods of torment) go on for years but there is absolutely no tenderness, ever. Could you stay fulfilled/sane/functionable that way? I don't think I could. I would need tenderness as well, not a whole lot (I think of myself as an energy-efficient car in terms of that fuel), but in doses administed with good timing (just-in-time timing, lol) or I would reach the "there is no point to this" frame of mine in which Exit - Stage Left would seem the only viable option.

Switching them around (lots of tenderness over the years with very tiny doses of torment interspersed amongst it) strikes me as unsatifying not to mention very boring, and that leads me to the the thought, "Of course there are other things in life besides these two traits." And then I start thinking about those other things and how I would prioritize thim. In a way, this sort of thinking reminds me of Agile programming. You have to provide the customer with a lot of the features that s/he wants (the "torment," let's say) but at the same time you have to build an infrastructure (the tenderness) that has no direct value to the customer but is required in order to support those fancy features. But how do you balance the two? Too much infrastructure for the sake of infrastrures sucks and results in a lousy, unresponsive product. Too much focus on features without a bare-bones but solid infrastructure in place results in really lame features that promise a lot but do not actually work properly. I'm glad that balancing act is left up to the dominants. I couldn't do the emotional math. :/

But I still like to set myself little prioritization exercises. These seem to occur naturally when someone whose mind inclines to self-torment reads threads in a forum like this. I'll choose a pair of traits or maybe as many as four traits and then ask myself, "Ok, I have this small number of things I really like but I can only have one or two of them at most. Which one(s) would I choose over the other and why? And are such things sustainable over time?" It can be very, very hard to just choose one, which is why I worded the thread question the way I did. I was curious to see what other submissives' #1's were. It's quite hard to just choose one, if you are thinking of something that occurs regularly over time. If you are just thinking of a single moment or period of time, the momentary thing that gets you hottest is a much easier question to answer. I answered my own question first with my momentary thing, fear, and then I had second thoughts, "But what about the long-term? Do you want to live perpetually in a horror film?" My answer was, "No, I would run out of adrenelin--and probably feel a little tacky, to boot." So I had a "this will sustain me over the long term" answer as well, which was "enforced servitude." Then, naturally, I had to ask, "Well, Ok, what if I could only choose one of those: the in-the-moment intensity or the long-term sustainability? While I may be an "Agile" slave that needs both, which would I choose, if in some theoretical space I could only choose just one?" A tough question, maybe an impossible one for me. So I added a clarifiying "constraint" to my theory space: a gun pointed at my head and the knowledge that if I didn't choose one of the two in three minutes my brains would be blown out. The time constraint made the choice easy. I'd choose the second experience, enforced servitude, and give a sad--but quick! only three minutes!--kiss goodbye to the drug of fear.

(Glances at the ramshackle rambling above and shakes head sadly at self. Now look at what you made me do, Porcelaine! :D)

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RE: What totally and completely does it for you? - 1/21/2011 4:46:11 AM   
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I don't know what actually 'totally does it for me' until I am 'there',

I am truly an impulsive, slutty c*nt and not sure if it is not more physical than emotional that leads me, but if I have to analyze what I am getting into too much -- I won't do it, or I would suck doing it (and not in a good suck kinda way either).

*and, no I wouldn't advocate this as any sort of ideal way to be either.  I have not only put myself in some awkward or dangerous situations....I LIKED those situations and even rationalize 'em as...'pfft I survivied, what the big deal???'

stupid is, as stupid does.


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RE: What totally and completely does it for you? - 1/21/2011 6:43:21 AM   
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usually those cute moments when its all relaxed and soft and i can get a bit playful and a teensy bit cheeky and theres that smile that tells me he's enjoying my fun and thats the only reason im getting away with it.

slushy mushy, sorry - :)

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RE: What totally and completely does it for you? - 1/21/2011 10:55:58 AM   
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pounding me into the bed from behind and kissing me on the head. END OF LINE.

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RE: What totally and completely does it for you? - 1/21/2011 10:58:18 AM   
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quote:

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pounding me into the bed from behind and kissing me on the head. END OF LINE.



what if I slam you to the floor and step on your head?

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RE: What totally and completely does it for you? - 1/21/2011 11:11:30 AM   
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ORIGINAL: osf


quote:

ORIGINAL: hipsterkittyxo

pounding me into the bed from behind and kissing me on the head. END OF LINE.



what if I slam you to the floor and step on your head?


but, my brain is in there! i was answering mostly as to what addicts me to my submission. if somebody was stepping on my head, i'd probably be scared to death.

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RE: What totally and completely does it for you? - 1/21/2011 11:13:01 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: hipsterkittyxo

quote:

ORIGINAL: osf


quote:

ORIGINAL: hipsterkittyxo

pounding me into the bed from behind and kissing me on the head. END OF LINE.



what if I slam you to the floor and step on your head?


but, my brain is in there! i was answering mostly as to what addicts me to my submission. if somebody was stepping on my head, i'd probably be scared to death.



I find that fear can be very erotic, well to me anyway


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RE: What totally and completely does it for you? - 1/21/2011 5:07:23 PM   
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ORIGINAL: osf


I find that fear can be very erotic, well to me anyway



Damn straight.  Alpha has stepped on my head a time or two, and it's very hot.

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RE: What totally and completely does it for you? - 1/21/2011 6:06:00 PM   
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ORIGINAL: ThundersCry

My fist in her up to my elbo....still working on it tsk tsk


LOL, oh thanks, now I've got that head in my song...er, I mean song in my head:

"Elbow deep inside the borderline.
Show me that you love me and that we belong together."

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