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Vendaval -> RE: ARE WE BEING HARD ON ILLEGAL ALIENS ? (5/4/2006 1:57:54 AM)
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Thank you for your practical view on the matter, LAM.
We need a starting point for the critical thinking questions
that need to be asked right now. The current government estimate
is approximately 11 million illegal immigrants.
I will start the ball rolling here -
#1 If all these people were deported, who would do those jobs?
#2 And how would much would legal workers be paid?
#3 What industries would be most effected?
#4 Which corporations knowingly hire illegal immigrants?
#5 Would fines or lawsuits make any difference to these corporations?
#6 How would this change the U.S. economy?
#7 Which government agencies would handle the deportations and
how would we pay for it?
#8 If a wall was built along the nearly 2,000 miles between the U.S.
and Mexico, which government would pay for it? One or both?
#9 And on the U.S. side, would the Federal or State governments or
both pay?
#10 How would we find the funds to add and train and supplement
the Border Patrol staff, equipment and technical support?
#11 Walls can be dug under, climbed over, blown-up and crashed through.
That is going to cost additional money in maintenance and repairs.
Would the Federal or State governments pay for it?
#12 If a wall gets in the way, the coyotes will start smuggling people
by sea and by air. How do we protect the coastlines and monitor
small planes? Would the Federal or State governments pay for it?
#13 If a highly contagious disease breaks out in the population that handles
the nation's food supply from planting to harvesting to packing and processing
to preparing and cooking and serving, what would we do?
Think about the consequences of a flu pandemic, TB, cholera, hepatitis A, etc.
#14 What is the best way to register and account for these people?
#15 How do we make sure they are liscensed to drive, have automobile insurance,
pay child support and stay out of the already overburdened justice system?
Regards,
-Vendaval-
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ORIGINAL: Lordandmaster
You know, there's a lot of rhetoric in this thread, and what sounds like a ton of anger. But not much in the way of rational discussion. The only way to get rid of illegal immigrants is to crack down on the corporations that hire them. How many of you all think that's likely? THAT'S the "immigration reform" that people should be pushing for if they really object to illegal immigrants. Sending them all back where they came from isn't going to do any good because they'll all just come right back as long as there are jobs here for them.
Look, I don't support an amnesty and don't think it's going happen. In fact, I think the immigrants'-rights movement is making a big tactical error by pressing an issue that doesn't find much favor among the citizenry. But until someone can show me all the Americans who are just begging to take the jobs currently staffed by illegals, I don't think there's much you can do about them. The choices are pretty simple: either accept illegals and figure out ways to live with them; or crack down on corporations that hire them, and be prepared to pay much higher prices for the goods and services that currently rely on illegal labor. I'd vote for the former, and I'd want to figure out some way to make sure they're registered, accounted for, and legally liable for things like child support and automobile insurance.
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