RE: How are you staying cold free? bug free?

RE: How are you staying cold free? bug free? (Full Version)

All Forums >> [Casual Banter] >> Polls and Other Random Stupidity

Message

pahunkboy -> RE: How are you staying cold free? bug free? (1/20/2011 12:37:40 PM)
How do you know which colloidal silver is the right one?

abrattyprincess -> RE: How are you staying cold free? bug free? (1/20/2011 1:01:08 PM)
This is the place I get mine from. They visit Manheim, PA every month for their patients and for those who just buy their products. Everything is organic and homemade. They make their own Colloidal Silver which I stock up on the two times I'm in PA over the year. Mine is liquid form (it just tastes like water) and it's 21PPM which is a safe, low amount. You could either visit them while they are in and get it there, or order it from them online. But their page kind of sucks and it isn't listed on their product page so you'd just have to email them and ask for it to be shipped. http://www.sunnybrookfarmherbs.com/index.html If you're skeptical about it or don't feel comfy going there on your own, you can wait until summertime when I'll be back in PA and we can meet there and I'll hold your hand walking in :P They know me well there and my mom actually makes some teas and tinctures for them. She is studying to become a naturopathic doctor and she is also a massage therapist so she helps them out a lot when they are in town. If you do decide to give it a go and order a bottle of it, make sure you shake it before taking a dose and do NOT use a metal spoon or it will deactivate the silver. You have to use plastic or just take a small swig from the bottle itself.

RapierFugue -> RE: How are you staying cold free? bug free? (1/20/2011 1:36:53 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: abrattyprincess I take colloidal silver whenever I feel like I'm coming down with something. There is NO pathogen known to man that this stuff can't kill. You just have to be careful with your use of it. Hmmmmm. http://www.quackwatch.com/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/PhonyAds/silverad.html Sounds right up PA's street. One wonders if taking it while wearing his tinfoil hat is a good idea though ... ;)

abrattyprincess -> RE: How are you staying cold free? bug free? (1/20/2011 2:11:08 PM)
Yes I know... many people are against the use of Colloidal Silver because of the risks and side effects it can cause (which are still VERY rare) IF used improperly. That couple they show on there is crazy. Home brewed silver and using it 12 times a day!?!?!?! Crazy. People are stupid. It's perfectly fine if used in moderation. :) http://www.energiseforlife.com/benefits_of_colloidal_silver.php

RapierFugue -> RE: How are you staying cold free? bug free? (1/20/2011 2:18:58 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: abrattyprincess It's perfectly fine if used in moderation. :) ... except studies (by which I mean actual, clinical, proper studies, not "we made this stuff up" studies) show it doesn't do much, if anything. (anytime a site or person mentions "wellness", my bullshit alarm goes apeshit).

Moonhead -> RE: How are you staying cold free? bug free? (1/20/2011 2:19:41 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: RapierFugue quote: ORIGINAL: abrattyprincess I take colloidal silver whenever I feel like I'm coming down with something. There is NO pathogen known to man that this stuff can't kill. You just have to be careful with your use of it. Hmmmmm. http://www.quackwatch.com/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/PhonyAds/silverad.html Sounds right up PA's street. One wonders if taking it while wearing his tinfoil hat is a good idea though ... ;) If you do that right, it turns your head into a battery: you'll never have to plug your mobile in to charge again...

RapierFugue -> RE: How are you staying cold free? bug free? (1/20/2011 2:30:40 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Moonhead If you do that right, it turns your head into a battery: you'll never have to plug your mobile in to charge again... chortle Sounds good ;)

pahunkboy -> RE: How are you staying cold free? bug free? (1/20/2011 3:58:18 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: abrattyprincess This is the place I get mine from. They visit Manheim, PA every month for their patients and for those who just buy their products. Everything is organic and homemade. They make their own Colloidal Silver which I stock up on the two times I'm in PA over the year. Mine is liquid form (it just tastes like water) and it's 21PPM which is a safe, low amount. You could either visit them while they are in and get it there, or order it from them online. But their page kind of sucks and it isn't listed on their product page so you'd just have to email them and ask for it to be shipped. http://www.sunnybrookfarmherbs.com/index.html If you're skeptical about it or don't feel comfy going there on your own, you can wait until summertime when I'll be back in PA and we can meet there and I'll hold your hand walking in :P They know me well there and my mom actually makes some teas and tinctures for them. She is studying to become a naturopathic doctor and she is also a massage therapist so she helps them out a lot when they are in town. If you do decide to give it a go and order a bottle of it, make sure you shake it before taking a dose and do NOT use a metal spoon or it will deactivate the silver. You have to use plastic or just take a small swig from the bottle itself. Very interesting! I had heard about it. I would try it. Did you ever do peroxide therapy? http://www.drinkh2o2.com/

NuevaVida -> RE: How are you staying cold free? bug free? (1/20/2011 10:50:02 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: windchymes quote: ORIGINAL: NuevaVida quote: ORIGINAL: sunshinemiss The worst part was finding out that there is no Vicks Vaporub in this country. Vicks!!! My grandmother used to chase us around the house and rub it ALL OVER us! We hated that stuff. But yes, it totally works LOL. lol....my grandma was addicted to Vicks Inhalers....those little things about the size of a lipstick? My cousins and I would sit on her bed and play with them, sticking them in each others noses, seeing who could last the longest. Good times, lol. LOL I don't remember the inhalers. Just that horrible blue jar in one hand, and a Q-Tip in the other. Q-Tip would be dipped in blue jar, covered in Vicks goo, and shoved up the nose. Yep, good times, lol.

DesFIP -> RE: How are you staying cold free? bug free? (1/21/2011 5:31:05 AM)
The local school system closes and locks the windows once they fire up the heating systems. And they do not compensate with air exchangers. So the bugs thrive in the overheated air and multiply to be picked up by every kid in the school. And then transmitted to parents. If the teen doesn't bring something home, we stay healthy. If he gets sick, so do we. And Vicks Vapor Rub is nasty. Shudders!

RapierFugue -> RE: How are you staying cold free? bug free? (1/21/2011 6:19:46 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DesFIP The local school system closes and locks the windows once they fire up the heating systems. And they do not compensate with air exchangers. So the bugs thrive in the overheated air and multiply to be picked up by every kid in the school. And then transmitted to parents. If the teen doesn't bring something home, we stay healthy. If he gets sick, so do we. Years back (decades in fact now) I used to know a sub who was a primary school teacher (I've known quite a few submissive female teachers; odd that, or so I found. Anyway, I digress) and she told me that, when she first started teaching the little darlings, she was nothing but ill for the entire first term. She was terrified she’d lose her job but apparently it’s perfectly normal – the kids pick up everything, and you get mini-me versions of whatever’s going around, time and again. However, after the first term you've either left the profession or you've got an immune system that's damn near bulletproof – she didn't get a single cough, cold or flu for the next few years, and only started to again once she’d ceased being a teacher, and even then it took another couple of years.

Termyn8or -> RE: How are you staying cold free? bug free? (1/21/2011 8:43:26 AM)
"How do you know which colloidal silver is the right one?" Ain't. Take a silver dollar and put it in vinegar. Leave it there for weeks. It will not appear to corrode if it is silver. Then take a couple of potatoes and nuke or bake them, DO NOT boil them. Mix the vinegar solution with about three times as much water and throw the potatoes in while they are hot. This will cause them to absorb the silver from the solution as the mixture cools. Eat the potatoes. Best if you use a dairy product with them to aid digestion, like cheese or sour cream. void milk because of that virus. Also you can reuse the "water". In fact you can with any vegetable. Next is everyone calling me a crackpot because very little silver will be absorbed and metabolised by the human body by this means. But what many don't realize is that we don't need all that much. Silver is only used by our immune system and our brain, as far as we know. But the real pioint is that we need an extremely small amount of it. I mean n the order of micrograms per 25 pounds of body weight. We do not need it in the quntities such as calcium or potasium and the like. T^T

RapierFugue -> RE: How are you staying cold free? bug free? (1/21/2011 9:02:43 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Termyn8or Ain't. Take a silver dollar and put it in vinegar. Leave it there for weeks. It will not appear to corrode if it is silver. Then take a couple of potatoes and nuke or bake them, DO NOT boil them. Mix the vinegar solution with about three times as much water and throw the potatoes in while they are hot. This will cause them to absorb the silver from the solution as the mixture cools. Eat the potatoes. Best if you use a dairy product with them to aid digestion, like cheese or sour cream. void milk because of that virus. Also you can reuse the "water". In fact you can with any vegetable. Or, alternatively, simply eat the spuds without bothering with the silver dollar - colloidal silver is a pile of horse shit, so why risk poisoning your body? What's interesting is that, if you put "colloidal silver" into google, you get one of the sites that debunks it first, then you get about 10 pages of various "alternative health" (presumably they mean an alternative to health) sites flogging it to you. As the wikipedia page (among many) points out, "From approximately 1990, there has been a resurgence of the promotion of colloidal silver as an alternative medicine treatment, marketed with claims of it being an essential mineral supplement, or that it can prevent or treat numerous diseases like cancer, diabetes, HIV/AIDS, and herpes, as well as tuberculosis. Silver is not an essential mineral in humans; there is no dietary requirement for silver, and no such thing as a silver "deficiency". There is no medical evidence that colloidal silver is effective for any of these claimed indications.". It's 21st century snake oil. nothing more, nothing less.

came4U -> RE: How are you staying cold free? bug free? (1/21/2011 9:03:56 AM)
Haven't had a cold in over 20 years, never had a flu (that I know of) in my lifetime. My youngest has never had a cold or flu (almost 20). My older ones, the rare (every 10 years) short-lived 24 hour flu. I smoke (tsk tsk), but we eat well. I take the occasional vitamin - when I remember, sigh, which even if it is right in front of me, I don't. I do keep bedroom windows open all day and night, even in Canadian winter. Because the heat dries out the air I keep a humidifier going from Nov til March. Oh yeah, and I am a stickler for handwashing (after coming home from school/work, touching money, shopping carts yadda yadda you know the routine). I can only guess that because none of us had any early onset illnesses that require ANY synthetic antibiotics is what keeps us clear of any cold n flu. That is about the only reasonable explanation I can find. In that our immune systems just haven't been compromised in any way or shape. Just a guess. Some say Vit D3 can even prevent/cure cancer now. Who knows, we likely won't know for a while.

RapierFugue -> RE: How are you staying cold free? bug free? (1/21/2011 9:05:57 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: came4U I can only guess that because none of us had any early onset illnesses that require ANY synthetic antibiotics is what keeps us clear of any cold n flu. That is about the only reasonable explanation I can find. In that our immune systems just haven't been compromised in any way or shape. Just a guess. That would be my guess too.

came4U -> RE: How are you staying cold free? bug free? (1/21/2011 9:14:59 AM)
quote: That would be my guess too. Too many kids start out with ear infections, eye infections (likely caught at the hospitals or clinics they visit for vaccinations anyways uhhg) and end up on all this amoxicillin crapola. Many by age 9 have had 20 occasions of antibiotic/fever reducing treatments. In most cases the briefness of the dosage (parents disregard the prescipt and stop giving the drug as soon as symptoms disappear) is the cause of the delay or irregularity of immunity to the antibiotics later given. My sister was like that. Runs to the doctor 100x yr (waste of the free heathcare if ya ask me) just because one of the kids has a fever of 99 or if they have a headache, or stub their toe. They end up on some meds, painkillers whathaveyou and now they are 25+ and sneeze n wheeze at the sight of a tissue. Sometimes sitting it out for a bit is the best one can do. *but know what you are doing when ya sit it out, by all means. lol

Moonhead -> RE: How are you staying cold free? bug free? (1/21/2011 9:24:28 AM)
Has anybody mentioned the suspicion that heroin is an effective treatment to prevent catching a cold yet? Mind you, the best known proponent of that theory was also big on Wilhelm Reich's orgone thesis, and the notion that language is a virus from outer space...

RapierFugue -> RE: How are you staying cold free? bug free? (1/21/2011 9:29:57 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: came4U quote: That would be my guess too. Too many kids start out with ear infections, eye infections (likely caught at the hospitals or clinics they visit for vaccinations anyways uhhg) and end up on all this amoxicillin crapola. Many by age 9 have had 20 occasions of antibiotic treatments. In most cases the briefness of the dosage (parents disregard the prescipt and stop giving the drug as soon as symptoms disappear) is the cause of the delay or irregularity of immunity to the antibiotics later given. Antibiotics are massively over-prescribed. I know this because I suffered a succession of colds & chest infections in my early teens, and had course after course. My mum wasn’t to know that what the doctors were doing was compromising my immune system in the long-term in order to effect a short-term “cure”, and it became a very vicious cycle. Eventually I had my tonsils removed, and that seemed to help enough that I no longer needed as many antibiotics. Then I left home and, because of my essential laziness when ill (“can’t be arsed to go see a doctor”) I didn't see a doctor for another 10 years (bad bike accident), during which time my immune system became, if not bulletproof, then pretty damn resistant. Personally, I don't think GPs should be allowed to prescribe antibiotics themselves; if they think you need a course then you should be sent for a swab & culture, so they can at least target the infection properly. The problem is that most people don't realise that antibiotics are only any good when targeted, and only ever any good against infections anyway – they're of no value whatsoever in virally-based cases (unless there's secondary infection, and then not often). But doctors come under such pressure from patients to prescribe something to “make them better” (and many don't think a GP is doing their job correctly unless they emerge with a prescription), so the over-prescribing continues, and all the while ever more virulent, antibiotic-resistant, strains of bacteria are multiplying in hospitals. MRSA is the tip of an iceberg.

came4U -> RE: How are you staying cold free? bug free? (1/21/2011 10:12:08 AM)
I agree. But we all know the routine... For minor and common infections like the common cold people have to STOP running to docs (assuming one has an already uncompromised immune system) and do the ol' chicken soup and lukewarm bath routine, before any meds (over the counter or otherwise) are given (light fever only). Colds? Do NOTHING except let your body fight it, eat lightly, drink fluids. Flu, the same except EXPECT fever, chills, nausea, etc. Check temp often, cool and warm as necessary, fluids, eat light. Let your immune system do the work for you, instead of a doctor, it pays off in the end if you can hold off for the first few days without dire symptoms or panic. If anything is gonna kill us in the future it will be the common cold. Not because it has gained any strength, we have merely become weaker. It is the EXPECTATION of a life without distress that causes the panic. Sometimes a body just needs it to kickstart the system into kicking some ass. Personally I have been on 2 medications in my lifetime. A few tylenols and a few aspirin. But then again, I am a masochist :P

calamitysandra -> RE: How are you staying cold free? bug free? (1/21/2011 2:03:35 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: RapierFugue Personally, I don't think GPs should be allowed to prescribe antibiotics themselves; if they think you need a course then you should be sent for a swab & culture, so they can at least target the infection properly. I totally agree that antibiotics are overprescribed, but I am seeing a slow reversal of the trend. At least here you will no longer get antibiotics for a simple cold, and with diagnoses like bronchitis or ear infections all other remedies will be tried first. However, I do not agree that antibiotics should not be prescribed by an GP, or only after a culture. If I need to go to the ER in the middle of the night with a child screaming in pain because of a bad case of otitis media (yes, onset can be so fast, and pain can be so strong and resistant to home use painkillers for children that an ER visit is necessary), I want the doctors to be able to prescribe antibiotics right then an there. I think the key lies in education. Both for the medical community, and as I said, I am seeing first signs of success there, and for patients/parents, who need to learn that a course of antibiotics absolutely needs to be finished, and that antibiotics are not a wonderdrug that should be prescribed at the first cough or sniffle.

Page: << < prev 1 2 [3] 4 5 next > >>

Collarchat.com © 2025

Terms of Service

0.046875