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RE: La Grande Petite Morte: an orgasm captured - 1/22/2011 7:17:58 AM   
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Probably the photos don't do it justice, you have to be there.


That's a very good point; a lot of these kind of "installations"* only work in person.

*AAARRGGGHHHH! Hate that word!

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RE: La Grande Petite Morte: an orgasm captured - 1/22/2011 7:33:41 AM   
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Probably the photos don't do it justice, you have to be there.

That's a very good point; a lot of these kind of "installations"* only work in person.
*AAARRGGGHHHH! Hate that word!

Yeah

Where is an artist when you need one because you've gone out and bought a new Blueray/DVD player?

"I see your problem this piece has SCART leads, there is no point continuing to address the subject matter of SCART leads. Art of the home entertainment kind nowadays needs to approach the topic of HDMI cables to be relevant to the post HD era."

Bluray...Bluray..da da da da..da da.


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RE: La Grande Petite Morte: an orgasm captured - 1/22/2011 7:36:58 AM   
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Yeah

Where is an artist when you need one because you've gone out and bought a new Blueray/DVD player?


Can you imagine a Bluray installation by someone like Yves Klein?

It'd probably switch on, show the letters B L U in large font in IKB, on the wall ...

... then explode.

;)

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RE: La Grande Petite Morte: an orgasm captured - 1/22/2011 7:46:16 AM   
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RE: La Grande Petite Morte: an orgasm captured - 1/22/2011 7:51:37 AM   
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*lost*


It's the first door on the left, down there ...

:)

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RE: La Grande Petite Morte: an orgasm captured - 1/22/2011 7:54:02 AM   
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Hence the original disclaimer:

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But you need to walk around it in 3-D, look up, down and around at the stalactites, the lights, the geodes, the entwined hands, and smile with happy memories of a particular love on a particular Sunday.

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Probably the photos don't do it justice, you have to be there.

That's a very good point; a lot of these kind of "installations"* only work in person.
*AAARRGGGHHHH! Hate that word!


Similarly, I didn't grok Seurat until I got up close in Paris and actually saw how, like photography, the dots of red, green and purple pointillism melt and resolve into a brown figure as you walk up and back away. Nifty!

It's GOOD to dance in front of art.

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RE: La Grande Petite Morte: an orgasm captured - 1/22/2011 8:17:53 AM   
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Similarly, I didn't grok Seurat until I got up close in Paris and actually saw how, like photography, the dots of red, green and purple pointillism melt and resolve into a brown figure as you walk up and back away. Nifty!


When he found out I was going to DC for a holiday a few years ago, my mate (the art chappy) said "whatever you do, go see the Pollock No 1 at the National, and when you've looked at it, do this ..." and described the following:

“The picture is a huge (8' 10" x 17' 5 5/8", according to google) canvas, but they house it in quite a large room, and unlike most of their other pieces there’s very little near it. Go to the opposite corner of the room, furthest from it (which is quite a way away, maybe 20 yards or so) and fix on a point at its centre.

Then walk slowly towards it, keeping your gaze fixed on that central point, and see what you can see.”

So of course I did; the results were incredible; as you walk towards it, you obviously start by perceiving the largest layers & splashes of paint. They are almost perfectly in compositional proportion. That’s tricky enough to do when you're working on such a large canvas by splashing paint on it in what appears to be a random fashion, but wait ...

... as you get closer, your brain starts to pick up smaller and smaller splashes and layers, and the bigger ones sort of “fade out” because they’re no longer the most “interesting” (to your brain) layers, but (and this is the really weird thing) the painting and its layers are still compositionally correct (!) – in other words, there isn't a point where there's too much paint there, or too little there, it’s all still perfect.

So you keep walking up to it, slowly, and keep your gaze fixed in the centre, and it reveals layer upon layer, smaller and smaller, until you're as close to it as you can get (about a yard and a half with the ropes) and the centre section of it, with its very small layers, is still in near perfect proportion.

How on earth someone can imagine all that when they're working on a huge canvas, from the “wrong” angles (it was on the floor, and he couldn't get further than a few yards from it) is absolutely beyond me. Pollock once said, when asked if it was "random": "I can control the flow of the paint. There is no accident."

I did it again, then again. Absolutely gobsmacking, and you can’t see that from a simple photo of it*.

I noticed the huge security guard (a black guy who looked big enough to have played linebacker for the Redskins) looking at me and smiling, so I went over. He said “who told you to look at it like that?” and I told him, and he said “yeah, some folks like it, and some don't, but you gotta say it’s a hell of a piece”. I asked what he thought of it and he said, with genuine emotion and a huge smile “I love it. Makes me proud to be an American”, and I could understand that :)

* http://www.nga.gov/feature/pollock/lm1024.jpg


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RE: La Grande Petite Morte: an orgasm captured - 1/22/2011 11:05:44 AM   
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What was once one of the most expensive works in the National Gallery, 'Voice of Fire' by Barnett Newman, is just a red stripe on a blue background.
It was bought for $1.8 million, mocked as being part of a Jewish/American conspiracy with Mark Rothko of bilking the gullible with 'Emperor's New Clothes' hype and paint rollers, but has 'appreciated substantially' since.

A friend adores it: he runs to its gallery, and as he stares at it, the persistence of vision zings, and the red and blue zips snap into their complementary colours. For him, it's consciousness-altering, but it does nothing for me.
However, I'm no longer on the side of the conspiracy theorists. It's art if it does that for some.

Edited to spell 'Barnett' with two T's

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RE: La Grande Petite Morte: an orgasm captured - 1/24/2011 3:37:10 AM   
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I think the piece would be fab to see in the flesh... although I don't know if this piece would do it for me like it does you...

What I do know though, is all this art talk at the end is orgasmic.... *le sigh...

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