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RE: My own life with BDSM - 1/23/2011 1:05:36 PM

ashjor911

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Please do tell me MalcolmNathaniel
What was Hitler then?
& why you still making assuming that I am comparing, which I am not & I did explain it above,
I may agree with you on the use of the word (sadist) I think the correct word is Nazi.
But, when Hitler wants to dig out 3000 graves & burn them after they have been dead, how is that like you said: "undesirables" dead- they have been dead for some time when they were digging out by their own blood?
Once again there some accusation about myself, I began this topic as an adult & I can accept either way with mien or against it.
In another matter as you wrote (sexual domination and pleasure through causing pain) if causing pain gives you pleasure how on earth is that
(punishment is usually used in a BDSM relationship: it is a tool for forgiveness),
How is that sane? Human? Or even possible?
Once more I apologize to the ones who are offended my me typing the word Hitler.
I do respect the readers of this or other topics in the forum.

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RE: My own life with BDSM - 1/23/2011 1:09:25 PM

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Have I missed something in the thread?

What on earth does a lunatic like Hitler have to do with BDSM?

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RE: My own life with BDSM - 1/23/2011 1:40:01 PM

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ashjor's mother tongue and ability to articulate into English....which I think is the major language used on this website.....has betrayed him.....

an english dictionary would with definitions would greatly enhance his abilty to articulate favorable with us.

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RE: My own life with BDSM - 1/23/2011 1:59:01 PM

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anyone who thinks standing on tip-toes for an hour.. and watching the toes bleed, is a sadist in my book.
I would have preferred the spanking.

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RE: My own life with BDSM - 1/23/2011 2:03:21 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: ashjor911

Which race is the Masters & which race is the worker.
Isn’t that what BDSM is all about? Correct me if I am wrong.
But that what I used to believe, not anymore

You are wrong.

B-bondage D-disipline S-sadism M-masochism has nothing to do with one race being superior to another.

I do have a few questions for you, however. In your profile, you state you like female supremacy. How does that relate to your quote above? Also, if this "like" is true, why did you have a female slave?

Finally, what was your reason for bringing up Hitler when discussing your perception of bdsm?

You have much to learn.

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RE: My own life with BDSM - 1/23/2011 2:15:06 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: ashjor911

Until now I am thinking that some super power is punishing me for putting her in that pain,

Do you mean China?
ed to ask how did you get out of your own quote bax?

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RE: My own life with BDSM - 1/23/2011 3:35:05 PM

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quote:

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I may seem like I got misunderstood with my own words, there is a different between love & hate,
I know that but, making someone you adore or like or even respect suffer is a matter of love that is beyond my understanding correct me if I am wrong but making someone bleed or not being able to sit-down for weeks on her/his bottom is a matter of love? I don’t understand that.
I do have to apologies to you if I have offended you when I was talking about Hitler not comparing.
I do respect who read this or other topics in collar me, especially LadyPact that I may offended her.
Let me explain what my idea when I was talking about Hitler:
That he was sadist & did wrong things in his life but he did divided people among their own races
Which race is the Masters & which race is the worker.
Isn’t that what BDSM is all about? Correct me if I am wrong.
But that what I used to believe, not anymore

Your post above is critical of someone making their sub bleed--yet in your original post, you admit to doing that very same thing--you stated that you made your sub's toes bleed. Is this thread then simply over your guilt and inability to process your own sadism?

Bringing Nazis, fascist and war criminals into this whole thread is inappropriate and irrelevant....not to mention highly distasteful. The comments regarding karmic payback for sadism strikes me as completely delusional.

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RE: My own life with BDSM - 1/23/2011 3:36:30 PM

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Dear BonesFromAsh
I like female supremacy (& as you call yourself an open minded) that doesn’t mean to believe in it, about what does that have to do with me saying:
(Which race is the Masters & which race is the worker.
Isn’t that what BDSM is all about? Correct me if I am wrong.
But that what I used to believe, not anymore)?
I know this is true & I did have a female slave which I recently let her go that is a fact & I don’t need any one approving my actions, or why I did that or that, I have my own reasons which are personal not to be public.
Finally I did bring Hitler to the topic just to give a simple example about people with bad choices & what they suffer from after.
The whole idea of this topic was letting myself an example of letting other read my story & what I am suffering from right now & why I am suffering right now.
Now look up to what prinsexx had said about china,
Superpower in my own words was punishing me just ask yourself why in hell china will punish me?
What I meant by the term (Superpower) was God or religion or whatever you like to call it I call it a superpower.
This is for the readers:
This whole forum is about sharing things, ok I may accept other opinions but that does not mean to accept other people insulting me & saying I have to read before I can dom someone, that was an insult.
& from another hand was talking about how the hell Hitler died who on earth said something about comparing you or any other human to him? & when did I do it?
If someone thinks that I am comparing him to Hitler I don’t have to be sorry about what he/she assumes or think.
Saying that gives me more & more pain that there is still some people out there still close minded & they did not even bother to put a reply just because of my nickname,
I mean really…….. how do you call yourself an open minded???
Others in here are like who the hell this guy is & why is he talking about soft things on BDSM!!!
We have to make it personal with him, just like the one who did think superpower is china …… really???
How is that possible did you even think before you wrote that?
As for Missokyst
Yes it was sadist from me to even doing so but did you bother yourself to read the whole thing, just to let you know that I did that to her for a half an hour that is 30 minutes & I did watch her bleed for a moment not for the whole evening it was just for a moment & think I am now being punished for that 30 minutes + that moment.
As for mysouldesire: I did not ask you to defend me or my actions what so ever. The words I did read about (has betrayed him) is just Nonsense.

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RE: My own life with BDSM - 1/23/2011 3:36:45 PM

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OP
You wrote your view on how BDSM has afficted your life. You feel, if I am reading this right, that sadistic punishment is being now given to you by the Gods. Perhaps, if that is your belief, it could hold truth for you.

Sometimes guilt though is what makes us ill, not the Gods. Also we would have to open a discussion if God is sadistic. I rather not go there.

If your experiences have made you feel extreme guilyt, than perhaps you need to step away from punishments you find distasteful. You might need to reassess what you want. This i think many do.

With all this said, it would be best to admit to yourself you are not comfortable in your role, and heal from that. Which way to heal, is not my concern. To blame BDSM on how you feel though is just the usual measure many take, instead of owning their own feelings. Many tend to want an escape goat.

As far as your Hitler analogy, well to me it just is just babbling, and pointing fingers, verses owning one's own problems.

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RE: My own life with BDSM - 1/23/2011 3:54:37 PM

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I really thank you oceanwynds2
for the time you have gave this topic
I do respect your words like they are made of gold & that is the kind of words that i trully need.
God bless you
have a good sunnday

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RE: My own life with BDSM - 1/23/2011 4:07:00 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: ashjor911
(punishment is usually used in a BDSM relationship: it is a tool for forgiveness),
How is that sane? Human? Or even possible?

My parents spanked me when I was bad. I can guarantee that they loved me.

quote:

ORIGINAL: ashjor911
Let me explain what my idea when I was talking about Hitler:
That he was sadist & did wrong things in his life but he did divided people among their own races
Which race is the Masters & which race is the worker.
Isn’t that what BDSM is all about? Correct me if I am wrong.

I am by no means qualified to correct your opinion, but the bolded portion really
needs to be addressed. The relationships between a master and his/her slave are
much more of a merging together than most other relationships, non-Bdsm included.
The difference between Hitlers method of domination and most Masters of this way of life is intent.

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RE: My own life with BDSM - 1/23/2011 4:09:46 PM

ashjor911

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thanks poise
really thanks

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RE: My own life with BDSM - 1/23/2011 4:39:26 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: ashjor911

Dear BonesFromAsh
I like female supremacy (& as you call yourself an open minded) that doesn’t mean to believe in it, about what does that have to do with me saying:
(Which race is the Masters & which race is the worker.
Isn’t that what BDSM is all about? Correct me if I am wrong.
But that what I used to believe, not anymore)?
I know this is true & I did have a female slave which I recently let her go that is a fact & I don’t need any one approving my actions, or why I did that or that, I have my own reasons which are personal not to be public.

I'm not sure why you felt the need to change your font size when responding to me.

I have always been given to understand that female supremacy is the notion that women are superior to men and that they should be the “ruling gender” because of this. When I asked you to explain this "like" that you had in your profile while referencing your statement "Which race is the Masters & which race is the worker. Isn’t that what BDSM is all about? Correct me if I am wrong." I was curious to see how you could explain the difference between race, gender and the question of superiority....or if there even was a difference for you.

What you like or don't like is of no concern to me. Yes, I am open-minded but I'm not sure how that plays into anything regarding my questions.

My reason for asking about you having a female slave while stating you liked female supremacy was because the two together made no sense. If females are supreme, why make one a slave?

You asked the question "Isn't that what BDSM is about? Correct me if I am wrong" and I was simply correcting you with my reply. Perhaps you need to go back and re-read what I wrote. You do have much to learn if you believe that bdsm is based on race superiority of any kind. You've mentioned numerous times you don't understand why people do what they do.....take the time to open your own mind and realize that adoration, respect and love can be expressed in many ways.

Sometimes those ways can be a delicious and exquisite pain.

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RE: My own life with BDSM - 1/23/2011 4:43:21 PM

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I love threads like these

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RE: My own life with BDSM - 1/23/2011 5:53:26 PM

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Dear BonesFromAsh
When I said "Isn't that what BDSM is about? Correct me if I am wrong" I was referring to that someone are superior & some are (workers) or subs or slaves………………………………….. think of that idea for a moment,
To make my words clear one more time liking something does not make you believe in it ( just like if like the gay or lesbian communities that does not make me one of them, I do like them (by the way) I adore their music & their spirits).
what I like to see some day is females are ruling governments & countries I personally think that (warzones of now will become once more THE HOLY LANDS) that is me liking the (female supremacy).
Having a female slave was a choice I did make once in my life which had changed me forever, (they are more passionate & caring than males “that is a fact”) but I did do it to be able to control & to know them well.
Oh & another thing you did not correct me you have misunderstood me & that is your own way of reading & thinking which I cannot control.
Will do make another topic here about Hitler & Nazis' racist ideology to make things even more clear about what he did.

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RE: My own life with BDSM - 1/23/2011 11:56:50 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: BonesFromAsh

... adoration, respect and love can be expressed in many ways.

Sometimes those ways can be a delicious and exquisite pain.

Absolutely beautiful

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RE: My own life with BDSM - 1/24/2011 2:13:36 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: ashjor911

That is my personal point of view.

BDSM

The idea of controlling someone life is very interesting.
Even thou the idea of making someone suffer is not interesting it’s more (to me now) is brutal.
I have heard about this Mistress or (Madam) who did spank her female slave so hard that the poor thing cannot sit-down for 1 week. That is brutal.
I have made my slave stand over in the corner facing the wall on her tiptoes, I know it was more hurting than letting my cane do the talking but I did let her know that I do respect her & I do protect her from anything will & going to harm her, even my own cane.
The way that she looked at me after half an hour of facing the wall & her toes were bleeding, I cannot forget no matter where I go or where I run away from them.
She was not complaining I think everyone knows when someone is faking & someone truly hurt.
She said: will never do it again Sir.
That year I got the worst respiratory infection I have ever had.
Now she is married to the other slave I had, I have let them live their life.
They still visit but they are not my slaves anymore they are just someone I shared my time with,
In the worst time I didn’t had anyone in my life to take care of myself but her.
Until now I am thinking that some super power is punishing me for putting her in that pain, so I will suffer the same amount of pain that she did.
Now I am having a kidney stone that is about 3 mm diameter & it was broken & slowly & painfully going thru my urinary system till it go out of me.
You have no idea about the pain I have when I piss it’s more like I am pissing out blades.
I did not fucked her or any other slave I think that`s why I am still alive….
That is my point of view, & I respect your point as well no matter who you are.

Personally, I think the whole "karma" angle is glorified superstition. If you're not in control of your mind, you shouldn't be in control of someone else.

But what do I know? I'm just a 21 year old punk. *Violin*

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RE: My own life with BDSM - 1/24/2011 2:21:48 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: ashjor911

That is my personal point of view.

BDSM

The idea of controlling someone life is very interesting.
Even thou the idea of making someone suffer is not interesting it’s more (to me now) is brutal.
I have heard about this Mistress or (Madam) who did spank her female slave so hard that the poor thing cannot sit-down for 1 week. That is brutal.
I have made my slave stand over in the corner facing the wall on her tiptoes, I know it was more hurting than letting my cane do the talking but I did let her know that I do respect her & I do protect her from anything will & going to harm her, even my own cane.
The way that she looked at me after half an hour of facing the wall & her toes were bleeding, I cannot forget no matter where I go or where I run away from them.
She was not complaining I think everyone knows when someone is faking & someone truly hurt.
She said: will never do it again Sir.
That year I got the worst respiratory infection I have ever had.
Now she is married to the other slave I had, I have let them live their life.
They still visit but they are not my slaves anymore they are just someone I shared my time with,
In the worst time I didn’t had anyone in my life to take care of myself but her.
Until now I am thinking that some super power is punishing me for putting her in that pain, so I will suffer the same amount of pain that she did.
Now I am having a kidney stone that is about 3 mm diameter & it was broken & slowly & painfully going thru my urinary system till it go out of me.
You have no idea about the pain I have when I piss it’s more like I am pissing out blades.
I did not fucked her or any other slave I think that`s why I am still alive….
That is my point of view, & I respect your point as well no matter who you are.

As this is about Karma, and your belief in it, I am not focusing on any other aspect at this moment.

Karma is both good and not so good.
Your automatically assuming that any form of sadism is negative, which would be an incorrect assumption.

Kidney stones may be the karma effect of a bad diet, not the karma of inflicting pain, which in itself could be causing you positive karma. Karma is about the actions/deed and it's overall effect creating a karmic balance. If you inflict pain or punishment, this could already be the karmic result, do you comprehend that?

As a concept, karma is far to complex to assume.

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RE: My own life with BDSM - 1/24/2011 4:58:07 AM

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darlin.. have I mentioned lately that I adore you?

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RE: My own life with BDSM - 1/24/2011 6:40:59 AM

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Hello OP, and welcome to the forum!

I honestly don't believe all that much in "karma" (I'm a very typical Scorpio in this regard), so I can't help you on that context. Except to say that as RCdc points out, your kidney stones are more likely to be a consequence of diet, metabolism etc than any supernatural payback for past behaviour.

That said, I suppose I do believe in a general sense that people will tend to get their "just desserts", and if you were abusive in a past relationship there may well be behavioural/emotional issues that you need to address - Although I'm not in the least bit qualified to help you with those.

If the punishments you meted out were part of a strong relationship, if they were consensual, and if they didn't cause lasting harm, I'm not sure that you need to beat yourself up too much about it though.

good luck

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