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ORIGINAL: RCdc
Like you, if something comes across as a waste of time, I'll go elsewhere - I am blessed to have a Master who allows me such. I have done that on CM - sometimes the persistent complaining does my head in... I tend to be someone who always looks at things positively and loves everything and everyone (not so closet hippy me)

The thing I am (struggling with is not the best word to use).... ummm... seem to be dense about is the reaction by some/many to males that know what they want - particularly on sites like this.

Either they aren't true enough, or they aren't commited enough or they automatically assigned as do-mes. I look at that and think... wow. I mean look at it like this... as women, we are (in society) automatically looked at as lesser beings. It's getting better with time (on the whole) but it's still there. So female dominants who seize control of their own lives get to a point where they decide they want to take on a boy/man (in this case as an example) only to come to a site like this and automatically deride and dehumanize any male s-type who dares show a little of their own desires - and they aren't alone because it's females in general. There is an automatic reaction on here to assume that these males are submissives... that these males themselves believe that is the term they should be using because bottoms or switches or worse still - bedroom boys - are at the bottom of the pile. At least there is a chance (if you identify) as a male submissive who doesn't dig on humiliation, that you might garner a little respect if you dare mention you are 'real male submissive'... and now even that's wrong!

Maybe that's a little of CM's fault(from a profile and email POV). Maybe it is about time they broadened their spectrum of profile options to allow for more descriptions and labels? I'm not naive enough to not be aware that there are blokes who come here just to get their rocks off... women too. And there will always be people who don't give a moment to look at a profile. But just Maybe if that happened it might send the message that this isn't just about domination and submission and that such filters would help channel people into the appropriate places - as well as having a positive effect on the perception of what it means to submit?

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As for the terminology debate, while I agree with you that in some cases it would be more accurate for folks to describe themselves as a top or a bottom, I couldn't say with any certainty how many folks would choose the option. The atmosphere on this site does seem to be more dynamic oriented. From talking to people away from the screen, that's the impression that others have told Me that they have as well. Even though there are a number of Dominant women here who have said they would rather know if a person considers themselves a bottom or a submissive up front, they know what poor results they have had if the word bottom was in their profile text.

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ORIGINAL: Charles6682

I have heard about the ratio on Collarme.There are so many male submissives,for every few Dommes out there,blah,blah,blah!!Most of the "Do me" male submissives are just that.All they seek is a 30 second fantasy "quick fix".Now,the REAL,GENIUNE Male Submissive who actually understands and appericates his submission,is a totally different person.I have to disagree that there are so many male submissive out there.What you have is alot of men with nothing more than a submissive fantasy.That does not make them a submissive or slave.So please,dont mix the real Male Submissive,in with a bunch of people who are only into a fantasy and nothing else.If anything,the true,geniune,compassionate male submissive is alot harder to find than one might think.