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VioletGray -> RE: Jon Stewart bitchslaps Fox with their own hypocrisy aGAIN! (1/26/2011 7:10:01 PM)
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::facepalm:: Aylee.. TexasRogue.. This really isn't that hard guys. Ok, let's take it from the top shall we?
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ORIGINAL: Aylee
Well, having to pull clips from several years ago to make your point about something that supposedly happens 24/7 does not seem like a very good argument to me. And the clip that came from 3.5 hours later involved a discussion about that interview.
Again, nowhere did Jon Stewart say it happens constantly, or 24/7. Neither he, nor I made that claim. What he's saying is that it happens, which is the opposite of what Megyn Kelly claims.
Also, there's a BIG difference between bringing up something that happened in 2005, and bringing up something that's been happening since 2005. Keep in mind that that he didn't use EVERY instance of it. If he did, he would have referenced Louis Black's observation on Glenn Beck's Nazi Obsession here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZ0mdxXw8Ac
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ORIGINAL: Aylee
The Nazi's, Hitler, Goebbels, and the Holocaust are all events that people are readily familiar with. Which is why I think that people tend to use those rather than Pol Pot, Nikola Jorgic, Mao, Stalin, Khemer Rouge, and Kim Jong Il, to name a few. The Nazi's were OUR villain. These other folks that I listed have more readily been other people's villain.
That is irrelevant. The question is not how useful the Nazi reference is, but whether it's being used.
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ORIGINAL: Aylee
While we are on the subject of smears, you do realize that "bitch-slap" is a misogynistic term. It promotes the idea that women are less than fully human and promotes violence against women. I mean this in the nicest way possible so that you are fully aware of the words that you are choosing to use.
Now THAT is a completely different debate, and I don't want to get distracted.
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ORIGINAL: TexasRogue
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ORIGINAL: VioletGray
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ORIGINAL: TexasRogue
Both sides call each other nazis. Liberals tend to do it more often and not just in the media. I've had liberal professors spew their hatred in class. Unacceptable.
Unfortunately, Fox hasn't found a JS counterpart to point it out in a way that's as funny. I'd like to see them ALL get back to journalism, removing as much bias as they can. Let's hear some news that means something without all the editorials, tyvm.
You're missing the point here. He wasn't pointing out all of the Nazi references to say "Hey! Look what they're doing!" It was Megyn Kelly's assertion that they don't happen on Fox. And he had JUST roasted a democrat for doing it Congress.
Also, please keep in mind that there's a reason he called it News news. Because people from all walks of life, college professors, protesters, etc. Are liable to say anything, but this was a journalist asserting something that was not true.
Here, I bolded the part about journalism for you so you'll see it this time. My point was that Megyn Kelly isn't the only "journalist" with an agenda. Nor is Fox the only network with one.
Nobody's even talking about what Megyn Kelly's, or Jon Stewart's, or anyone elses agenda is. The point is that she's got her facts wrong.
I think you know that Jon Stewart nailed her on that, and you're trying to broaden the argument enough for you to have some kind of defense. Because if you look at what she said, and his response, the fact is, the Right lost this one. You KNOW that. It's ok to admit it..
Remember that whole "Aqua Buddha" thing when Rand Paul ran? The Left lost that one. I can admit that. It was stupid, and the democrat deserved to pay the price he did.
Sometimes, people are just wrong!
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