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luckydawg -> RE: Jon Stewart bitchslaps Fox with their own hypocrisy aGAIN! (1/27/2011 3:26:55 PM)
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ORIGINAL: mnottertail
Stalin invaded Poland (as you would have it, while driving Germans out) Finland (look up New York Mills, I am well aware of the winter war, and Finn history, including the Kalavela and you can today see many Finn Graves there with the Hammer and Sickle embossed on them) was a sattelite of Russia since 1809, something they wanted (after 9 centuries of being part of Sweden proper) got indepenance during 1917.
Stalin wanted to stop coal shipping from Sweden to the Germans. On their way thru to accomplish that there was some fighting where the Russians more or less got their ass kicked. The Finns recanted that act.
So, I guess if you want to cavil it is technically an invasion, as we invaded france, germany, belgium, england, africa, norway, the middle east, holland, and many other countries.
The meaning you gave it with your words and the point you failed miserably with did not hold an ounce of perspective or proportion.
He did not share any country with Germany, you are clearly and inescapably wrong about that, quisling rhetoric notwithstanding.
I showed you, as I showed you many times that you were absolutely wrong about the Gitmo stuff.
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luckydawg:
and in one we barley got as conviction for a single minor charge
Unless somehow you can wheedle out of it that 25 years to life is a minor charge.Of which he got the minor sentence of life.
And as was my point all along, no testimony is going to be necessary from our covert assets to try any of these guys. And it don't matter because you do not know exactly who did or did not testify, and what they actually witnessed or summarized from papers of others.
Barley is a food grain.....I have no idea how that enters into this.
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ORIGINAL: luckydawg
Stalin didn't export his killing, to other continents? Wierd world you live in.
Um, more problems here regardless, you might want to check the continents that Poland and Finland are on, then compare them with Russia. No, he didn't export his killing to other continents in person, or by state policy. There would have been a thing called a war, should he have provably done something like that.
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I guess its not lying, just ignorance on your part. Stalin invaded Poland as part of his alliance with Hitler. the Molotov-Ribbentrop act. Hitler and stalin divided up all of eastern Europe between them in an alliance, then they invaded.
"In addition to stipulations of non-aggression, the treaty included a secret protocol dividing Northern and Eastern Europe into German and Soviet spheres of influence, anticipating potential "territorial and political rearrangements" of these countries. Thereafter, Germany and the Soviet Union invaded, on September 1 and 17 respectively, their respective sides of Poland, dividing the country between them. Part of eastern Finland was annexed by the Soviet Union after the Winter War. This was followed by Soviet annexations of Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania and Bessarabia."
Hitler and Stalin were allies untill 2 years after the Soviet Invasion of Poland. Figures you don't know.
"Hostilities ceased in March 1940 with the signing of the Moscow Peace Treaty. Finland ceded 11 percent of its pre-war territory and 30 percent of its economic assets to the Soviet Union.[1] Soviet losses on the front were heavy, and the country's international reputation suffered.[1] The Soviet forces did not accomplish their objective of the total conquest of Finland,[23] but did gain sufficient territory along Lake Ladoga to provide a buffer for Leningrad. The Finns, however, retained their sovereignty and enhanced their international reputation."
Took and kept 11% of the territory and 30% of its assests is hardly having It's ass handed to them. But you will keep lying and throwing insults.
also you like about the result of the Winter War.
You are free to pretend I said things I never did. It's about all you really do.
feel free to shout more insults, it proves you know I am correct.
One more Time, Hitler and Stalin had a pact, to invade and split Eastern Europe. They split Poland for almost 2 years, untill Hitler attacked the USSR proper.
Your ignorance is astounding, but not surprising.
One more time "invasion" is not the standard.
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