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RE: Jon Stewart bitchslaps Fox with their own hypocrisy... - 1/27/2011 1:11:51 PM   
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Stalin invaded Poland (as you would have it, while driving Germans out) Finland (look up New York Mills, I am well aware of the winter war, and Finn history, including the Kalavela and you can today see many Finn Graves there with the Hammer and Sickle embossed on them)  was a sattelite of Russia since 1809, something they wanted (after 9 centuries of being part of Sweden proper) got indepenance during 1917.   

Stalin wanted to stop coal shipping from Sweden to the Germans.  On their way thru to accomplish that there was some fighting where the Russians more or less got their ass kicked.  The Finns recanted that act. 

So, I guess if you want to cavil it is technically an invasion, as we invaded france, germany, belgium, england, africa, norway, the middle east, holland, and many other countries.

The meaning you gave it with your words and the point you failed miserably with did not hold an ounce of perspective or proportion.

He did not share any country with Germany, you are clearly and inescapably wrong about that, quisling rhetoric notwithstanding. 


I showed you, as I showed you many times that you were absolutely wrong about the Gitmo stuff.

Lies!!! 
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and in one we barley got as conviction for a single minor charge


Unless somehow you can wheedle out of it that 25 years to life is a minor charge.Of which he got the minor sentence of life.

And as was my point all along, no testimony is going to be necessary from our covert assets to try any of these guys. And it don't matter because you do not know exactly who did or did not testify, and what they actually witnessed or summarized from papers of others.

Barley is a food grain.....I have no idea how that enters into this.

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Stalin didn't export his killing, to other continents? Wierd world you live in.


Um, more problems here regardless, you might want to check the continents that Poland and Finland are on, then compare them with Russia.  No, he didn't export his killing to other continents in person, or by state policy.  There would have been a thing called a war, should he have provably done something like that.

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RE: Jon Stewart bitchslaps Fox with their own hypocrisy... - 1/27/2011 2:01:19 PM   
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You're right, (if you believe Wikipedia). Apparently he is also an acomplished painter. I'm glad he has done well, I actually liked his routines back in the 80's ("I have discovered many wonderful things in America, like unopened mail."), he was good at doing his routine. It's just the plethora of lame attempts at his bit on youtube that have been driving me nuts.

"In Soviet Union, car drive you." What the fuck does that even mean?



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RE: Jon Stewart bitchslaps Fox with their own hypocrisy... - 1/27/2011 3:26:55 PM   
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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

Stalin invaded Poland (as you would have it, while driving Germans out) Finland (look up New York Mills, I am well aware of the winter war, and Finn history, including the Kalavela and you can today see many Finn Graves there with the Hammer and Sickle embossed on them)  was a sattelite of Russia since 1809, something they wanted (after 9 centuries of being part of Sweden proper) got indepenance during 1917.   

Stalin wanted to stop coal shipping from Sweden to the Germans.  On their way thru to accomplish that there was some fighting where the Russians more or less got their ass kicked.  The Finns recanted that act. 

So, I guess if you want to cavil it is technically an invasion, as we invaded france, germany, belgium, england, africa, norway, the middle east, holland, and many other countries.

The meaning you gave it with your words and the point you failed miserably with did not hold an ounce of perspective or proportion.

He did not share any country with Germany, you are clearly and inescapably wrong about that, quisling rhetoric notwithstanding. 


I showed you, as I showed you many times that you were absolutely wrong about the Gitmo stuff.

Lies!!! 
quote:

luckydawg:
and in one we barley got as conviction for a single minor charge


Unless somehow you can wheedle out of it that 25 years to life is a minor charge.Of which he got the minor sentence of life.

And as was my point all along, no testimony is going to be necessary from our covert assets to try any of these guys. And it don't matter because you do not know exactly who did or did not testify, and what they actually witnessed or summarized from papers of others.

Barley is a food grain.....I have no idea how that enters into this.

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ORIGINAL: luckydawg

Stalin didn't export his killing, to other continents? Wierd world you live in.


Um, more problems here regardless, you might want to check the continents that Poland and Finland are on, then compare them with Russia.  No, he didn't export his killing to other continents in person, or by state policy.  There would have been a thing called a war, should he have provably done something like that.

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I guess its not lying, just ignorance on your part. Stalin invaded Poland as part of his alliance with Hitler. the Molotov-Ribbentrop act. Hitler and stalin divided up all of eastern Europe between them in an alliance, then they invaded.

"In addition to stipulations of non-aggression, the treaty included a secret protocol dividing Northern and Eastern Europe into German and Soviet spheres of influence, anticipating potential "territorial and political rearrangements" of these countries. Thereafter, Germany and the Soviet Union invaded, on September 1 and 17 respectively, their respective sides of Poland, dividing the country between them. Part of eastern Finland was annexed by the Soviet Union after the Winter War. This was followed by Soviet annexations of Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania and Bessarabia."

Hitler and Stalin were allies untill 2 years after the Soviet Invasion of Poland. Figures you don't know.


"Hostilities ceased in March 1940 with the signing of the Moscow Peace Treaty. Finland ceded 11 percent of its pre-war territory and 30 percent of its economic assets to the Soviet Union.[1] Soviet losses on the front were heavy, and the country's international reputation suffered.[1] The Soviet forces did not accomplish their objective of the total conquest of Finland,[23] but did gain sufficient territory along Lake Ladoga to provide a buffer for Leningrad. The Finns, however, retained their sovereignty and enhanced their international reputation."

Took and kept 11% of the territory and 30% of its assests is hardly having It's ass handed to them. But you will keep lying and throwing insults.




also you like about the result of the Winter War.

You are free to pretend I said things I never did. It's about all you really do.

feel free to shout more insults, it proves you know I am correct.


One more Time, Hitler and Stalin had a pact, to invade and split Eastern Europe. They split Poland for almost 2 years, untill Hitler attacked the USSR proper.

Your ignorance is astounding, but not surprising.


One more time "invasion" is not the standard.

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RE: Jon Stewart bitchslaps Fox with their own hypocrisy... - 1/27/2011 8:49:14 PM   
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Wow luckydawg and I are coming down on the same side of an argument...of course since this is one of historical fact there is little in the way of wiggle room to deviate from .The Soviets and the Germans carved up poor little Poland at the bargaining table.Both got what they wanted....Hitler wanted to move further east in preperation for invading the Soviet Union.....and Stalin wanted to move west.....giving him a larger geographic buffer.By the way Ron before you again make the claim that Stalin did not "export his killing" google Katyn forest.When the Nazis find your behavior appaling you really need to re-evaluate

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RE: Jon Stewart bitchslaps Fox with their own hypocrisy... - 1/27/2011 9:10:38 PM   
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RE: Jon Stewart bitchslaps Fox with their own hypocrisy... - 1/27/2011 9:38:14 PM   
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ORIGINAL: luckydawg

Stalin didn't export his killing, to other continents? Wierd world you live in.

Mao didn't invade anywhere??

tweakabelle


luckydawg,
I had hoped that using modifiers like "tended", and "by and large" and then putting them in italics, I was making it crystal clear to even the dumbest, most barely-literate cretin out there that I wanted to exclude the specific interpretation you chose to find in my post.

Obviously I was far too optimistic.

Please excuse me for over-estimating your intelligence and literacy.



Edited to make the meaning clear to a retarded anemone


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luckydawg
What other interpretation is there?

Your post was simply incorrect. Most of Stalins victims were not Georgian, and he invaded many other countries. Also he exported his killing to China putting Mao in Power, who also invaded many other countries, and killed millions of people not of his nation.

But your histronics demonstrate to everyone, that you know I am correct.

Real One (one of your Anti Semetic buddies) uses the same tactic regularly when shown to be wrong.


luckydawg,

Whilst generally I am quite sympathetic to the plight of the intellectually and emotionally challenged members of our community, your continual abuse, lying and lunacy has driven me to the limit of my compassion. Welcome to Hide - a singular achievement of yours though possibly not one to share with the grand-kids .....

Any twinge of sadness I might feel as I sever my connection to your hate-filled hate-obsessed angry ugly world will be more than offset by the certain knowledge that I am acting in your best interests. My parting gift to you is this suggestion - please consider getting professional help.

Even in seemingly deep seated long standing intractable cases such as yours, spectacular recoveries have been recorded and listed in the psychiatric literature. It seems a judicious combination of an experienced, skilled therapist, committed patient, appropriate medications, emotional support and time applied in a stress free therapeutic setting is the key. Time is of the essence though, as success rates fall off sharply after 40 years of age is attained.

Please remember that I will be supporting you spiritually and emotionally during your therapy, albeit from a location as far away as I can possibly get.

My best wishes for a complete recovery!

Edited while humming "Let a Little Love into Your Heart" as I point out luckydawg's last known whereabouts to some men in white coats ....

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RE: Jon Stewart bitchslaps Fox with their own hypocrisy... - 1/27/2011 10:04:05 PM   
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ORIGINAL: slvemike4u

Wow luckydawg and I are coming down on the same side of an argument...of course since this is one of historical fact there is little in the way of wiggle room to deviate from .The Soviets and the Germans carved up poor little Poland at the bargaining table.Both got what they wanted....Hitler wanted to move further east in preperation for invading the Soviet Union.....and Stalin wanted to move west.....giving him a larger geographic buffer.By the way Ron before you again make the claim that Stalin did not "export his killing" google Katyn forest.When the Nazis find your behavior appaling you really need to re-evaluate

You are correct in your assertions. However, the claim that luckydawg is disputing is not that "that Stalin did not "export his killing" ".

The claim he is disputing is was made by me in post #46.

I asserted that Stalin, Mao the Khmer Rouge etc did most of their killing at home in their respective countries, mostly killing their "fellow nationals"and "by and large .... tended" not to export their gruesome hobbies. In contrast, the Nazis' killings covered virtually the entire continent of Europe, with large chunks of Africa thrown for good measure. At no point did I assert Stalin Mao etc didn't do any killing outside their borders.

Luckydawg, as is his wont, completely misunderstood or twisted my initial claim (or possibly both misunderstood and twisted it! Who knows what goes on between his ears?). Please read post #46 for confirmation.*

I hope all this clarifies things for you.


* The full discussion comprises of posts #s 46, 47, 51,54, 55, 57-60, 63 and 65

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RE: Jon Stewart bitchslaps Fox with their own hypocrisy... - 1/30/2011 10:22:41 PM   
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Also for those interested, Jon Stewart's followup suplexing of Bill O'Reilly:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/01/28/jon-stewart-hits-back-at-_n_815284.html

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RE: Jon Stewart bitchslaps Fox with their own hypocrisy... - 1/30/2011 11:28:13 PM   
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Did you happen to catch that he was appointed to the 911 memorial board of directors?

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RE: Jon Stewart bitchslaps Fox with their own hypocrisy... - 1/31/2011 7:18:22 PM   
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Did you happen to catch that he was appointed to the 911 memorial board of directors?


I did. And in evil news, media super-villian Andrew Breitbart is now on the board of GOProud.

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