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RE: Another case of not right wing violence - 1/29/2011 8:24:29 PM   
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Murders in the drug trade are usually a left-wing phenomenon.


???but I thought most of the killings in the drug trade were to preserve unregulated capitalism???lol



Pyro, now now, Heretic has a point! If you look at the lion's share of the "Street Pharmacists" in the hood you won't find many who voted "Republican" but you'll find plenty who voted for Obama.
John McCain lost all the inner city electoral votes. The Dems said Obama took those areas by a "landslide."
Fair is fair.

???

you're basing this on what exactly?
Are you try'n to say that you're experienced in the "hood"?
Or that you know what the demographic is for drug dealers?
Are you aware that many career criminals have probably collected one or two felonies over their lifetime(hence don't vote)
Or in order to avoid incarceration, have taken extreme measures to avoid anything familiar to a paper trail(why on earth would you register anything in your name/address with anyone if you're selling vast quantities of controlled substances at said address?)

Or like most people who stay away from "legit" livings, don't have any interest in social or political dealings what-so-ever....


Are you really basing this idea on the fact that inner cities voted obama?

You do know that if a majority of inner city residents were all drug dealers, they would be in constant competition with each other and hence they would be violently trying to corner their perspective markets(more then they do now, like Mexico), and if the majority of drug dealers were all innercity, it would be alot easier for the dea to track production?


Do you know anything bout drugdealers other then what you see on tv and maybe every now and then when you pass round the "bad" side of town?

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RE: Another case of not right wing violence - 1/29/2011 8:30:00 PM   
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tweakabelle, the minutemen have, on several occasions, conducted ARMED patrols of the US Mexico border.

When you consider they have no legal authority to do so, it raises a few questions, the most obvious is, "Just what the hell were they going to do with the weapons?"

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RE: Another case of not right wing violence - 1/29/2011 9:09:21 PM   
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http://www.tucsonweekly.com/tucson/murder-in-the-desert/Content?oid=1739974
Here's a more in depth article about the killings. I hope that all involved with this crime get what is coming to them.


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RE: Another case of not right wing violence - 1/29/2011 9:14:41 PM   
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Wait,didn't the story behind the movie machete involve a minute man group receiving money from a drug dealing kingpin

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RE: Another case of not right wing violence - 1/29/2011 10:38:07 PM   
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Well, it seems to me



And the value that gets assigned to your thoughts is dropping faster than on tickets to Hosni Mubarak's next birthday party.

What a horrible place it must be, inside your head.



What's the point of your post Heretic?

It seems to me that your post is extravagantly futile and supremely unnecessary.


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RE: Another case of not right wing violence - 1/29/2011 10:52:31 PM   
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Well, it seems to me



And the value that gets assigned to your thoughts is dropping faster than on tickets to Hosni Mubarak's next birthday party.

What a horrible place it must be, inside your head.



I dont hear anyone of you right wingers denouncing the act. However, it has been pointed out that the group is ANTI-illegal immigration.

And the people killed were illegals.

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RE: Another case of not right wing violence - 1/29/2011 10:59:53 PM   
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Do you know anything bout drugdealers other then what you see on tv and maybe every now and then when you pass round the "bad" side of town?



I do, Pyro. Speed is the drug of fascist thugs, but coke and weed are all about the social justice crowd.

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RE: Another case of not right wing violence - 1/29/2011 11:06:52 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: PyrotheClown


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ORIGINAL: popeye1250

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ORIGINAL: PyrotheClown


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ORIGINAL: TheHeretic
Murders in the drug trade are usually a left-wing phenomenon.


???but I thought most of the killings in the drug trade were to preserve unregulated capitalism???lol



Pyro, now now, Heretic has a point! If you look at the lion's share of the "Street Pharmacists" in the hood you won't find many who voted "Republican" but you'll find plenty who voted for Obama.
John McCain lost all the inner city electoral votes. The Dems said Obama took those areas by a "landslide."
Fair is fair.

???

you're basing this on what exactly?
Are you try'n to say that you're experienced in the "hood"?
Or that you know what the demographic is for drug dealers?
Are you aware that many career criminals have probably collected one or two felonies over their lifetime(hence don't vote)
Or in order to avoid incarceration, have taken extreme measures to avoid anything familiar to a paper trail(why on earth would you register anything in your name/address with anyone if you're selling vast quantities of controlled substances at said address?)

Or like most people who stay away from "legit" livings, don't have any interest in social or political dealings what-so-ever....


Are you really basing this idea on the fact that inner cities voted obama?

You do know that if a majority of inner city residents were all drug dealers, they would be in constant competition with each other and hence they would be violently trying to corner their perspective markets(more then they do now, like Mexico), and if the majority of drug dealers were all innercity, it would be alot easier for the dea to track production?


Do you know anything bout drugdealers other then what you see on tv and maybe every now and then when you pass round the "bad" side of town?



Pyro, ok, I stand corrected, all of the "street pharmacists" are Republicans who voted for McCain and will vote for Romney, Palin, or Knewt in the future. Am I close? Does that make you feel better?

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RE: Another case of not right wing violence - 1/29/2011 11:30:51 PM   
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it has been pointed out that the group is ANTI-illegal immigration.
And the people killed were illegals

Ummm... I didn't read anything in either article about the victims being illegals. From what I read, the house was targeted because Forde and her band of crazies believed, rightly or wrongly, that Raul Flores was a drug dealer, and they intended to rob and kill him.

From what has been written, it seems that said band of crazies teamed up with some local drug dealers to rob (money for Forde), and eliminate the competition (bonus for the drug dealers).

ETA- BTW, if those posters from the right seem a tad defensive, maybe the title of this thread is a clue as to why.
Just an observation.


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RE: Another case of not right wing violence - 1/30/2011 12:50:25 AM   
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Do you know anything bout drugdealers other then what you see on tv and maybe every now and then when you pass round the "bad" side of town?


I do, Pyro. Speed is the drug of fascist thugs, but coke and weed are all about the social justice crowd.

Suuuuure, and acid is the drug of theocratic fundamentalists......explains them buy'n the 72virgin thing.


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Pyro, ok, I stand corrected, all of the "street pharmacists" are Republicans who voted for McCain and will vote for Romney, Palin, or Knewt in the future. Am I close? Does that make you feel better?



Guess it was too much to ask for you to stop talk'n out yer ass for five minutes

But while you're at it, try finding any hardened drug dealer(or "street pharmacist")who has any political convictions what so ever...and college kids selling a few gram bags here and there don't count.

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RE: Another case of not right wing violence - 1/30/2011 2:13:06 AM   
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http://articles.latimes.com/2011/jan/25/nation/la-na-minutemen-murder-20110126


Well at least you got the subject line right.

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RE: Another case of not right wing violence - 1/30/2011 3:32:19 AM   
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I do, Pyro. Speed is the drug of fascist thugs, but coke and weed are all about the social justice crowd.


Laughable, incorrect and did I say laughable.

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RE: Another case of not right wing violence - 1/30/2011 4:45:55 AM   
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But while you're at it, try finding any hardened drug dealer(or "street pharmacist")who has any political convictions what so ever...and college kids selling a few gram bags here and there don't count.


Yea, I know one. He is mainly focused on pot right now, due to the new medical laws available, but he can get pretty much anything you want if you give him enough time. He is also a hard core democrat who loves to rant about politics after he has concluded his business.


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RE: Another case of not right wing violence - 1/30/2011 4:49:57 AM   
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I dont hear anyone of you right wingers denouncing the act. However, it has been pointed out that the group is ANTI-illegal immigration.


Well duh, everyone knows that right wingers don't care about kids. Well, maybe not everyone, but all the little bigots, like you know it. After all, you are constantly telling us how they feel and think. What a typical bigot. It must suck to live with that kind of hate on a daily basis. No wonder your posts are full of it.


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RE: Another case of not right wing violence - 1/30/2011 4:54:48 AM   
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She's not driven by ideology as much as rapacity, lack of ethics, and maybe insanity.


Yea, definitely insanity. I just hope she doesn't try to use it as a defense. You would have to be insane to do that to a child, so how is that an excuse. But I see people use it all the time. I hope there is a special hell for her or anyone who goes after a kid.


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RE: Another case of not right wing violence - 1/30/2011 4:55:17 AM   
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I do, Pyro. Speed is the drug of fascist thugs, but coke and weed are all about the social justice crowd.


Laughable, incorrect and did I say laughable.


I can never make my mind up as to who are the biggest drug dealers around here .... the police or pub owners. Mind you, most of the time, the police have the best quality grass .... whereas the pub owners only have alcohol.

But hey, what's the difference? They all vote conservative.



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RE: Another case of not right wing violence - 1/30/2011 4:57:18 AM   
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I do, Pyro. Speed is the drug of fascist thugs, but coke and weed are all about the social justice crowd.


Laughable, incorrect and did I say laughable.


I can never decide whether the police or pub owners are the biggest drug dealers around here .......

But hey, what's the difference? They all vote conservative.



Edited to add exotic herbs


You have obviously never been to Detroit. But that's ok, we have enough bigots here already.


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RE: Another case of not right wing violence - 1/30/2011 6:10:22 AM   
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You have obviously never been to Detroit. But that's ok, we have enough bigots here already.



Oh my! What a pleasant surprise! You have finally managed to include at least one true statement in a post of yours. Congratulations on achieving a new standard!

Yes it's true, I can't deny it - I've never been to Detroit. While that must sound like shocking deprivation to some, I have no sense that I have missed one of life's more glamorous, scintillating experiences. Not by a long shot .....

Not having been to Detroit, I have no way of assessing how many bigots you have there. Though, if the bilious servings of sneering anger hate bigotry and insecurity that liberally adorn every post of yours is anything to go by, then your second statement might just be true too! Pass the smelling salts someone please!

I do fear for you - two true statements per post is a challenging, probably impossible standard for you to maintain. But please don't worry on my account, I'm sure I'll cope somehow.


Edited after remembering that Detroit used to be somewhere notable ...... once ... during the 1960s

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RE: Another case of not right wing violence - 1/30/2011 8:24:17 AM   
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If the point to your reply was to come off as a condescending ass, congratulations. Well done. 

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RE: Another case of not right wing violence - 1/30/2011 8:34:09 AM   
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If the point to your reply was to come off as a condescending ass, congratulations. Well done. 


A reply that merely followed your example.

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