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RE: 0bama0 and Muslim discord - 1/29/2011 4:37:50 PM   
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RE: 0bama0 and Muslim discord - 1/29/2011 4:47:01 PM   
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According to "The Cost of War" website the two wars have cost : 1,144,746, 227,829.00 dollars as of 17:38 hours, 29 January 2011, and rising by several hundred thousand dollars a minute.

Economically,
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Got a website that supports this evidence?

Since a CBO report, published in Oct 2007, puts the price tag at $2.4 trillion. $1.9 trillion was spent on Iraq, while the rest is from interest, as we paid for that war on borrowed money.(1) It would have been 80% less, if then, President George W. Bush didn't reduce taxes for the rich (from 39% to 35%). Yes, Americans had a reduction in taxes, but the amount of money saved, was larger the higher in the tax brackets one went (no suprised, given GWB's political party).

Link source for source 1.

Does your price tag also include all the veterans who lost limbs and life, in that $1.1 trillion total? According to the same source, the long term cost is between $350 Billion to $700 Billion.

Should I throw down the cost of the War in Afghanistan?


Not to be a prick, but what fucking part of the word "website" is beyond your comprehension?? The cost, if you would like to go visit that website is for BOTH wars.  "Cost of War" also breaks it down by individual wars.   I would assume that this is just the cost in salaries, combat pay, and replacement of parts/equipment

I would also assume this does not include the more than 13 BILLION in US dollars that went "missing" during the Iraq fiasco.



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RE: 0bama0 and Muslim discord - 1/29/2011 5:11:56 PM   
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RE: 0bama0 and Muslim discord - 1/29/2011 5:19:18 PM   
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Status: offline 		It would probably be too much to ask that someone like truckinslave actually read or listen to the statements made by President Obama concerning the situation.

But to help lead truckinslave out of his self imposed ignorance:

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President Obama: "This Moment of Volatility Has to be Turned into a Moment of Promise"

January 28, 2011 6:59 PM

After speaking with Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak this evening for approximately 30 minutes, President Obama came to the State Room of the White House at 6:33 pm ET tonight to urge the Egyptian government to respect and embrace human rights and political and economic reform.

“Going forward this moment of volatility has to be turned into a moment of promise,” the president said.

Mubarak had delivered a message just moments before pledging “new steps towards more democracy, more freedoms for citizens, new steps to reduce unemployment, raise the standard of living, develop services; new steps to stand by the side of the poor and people of low income”

President Obama said that in their conversation “I told him he has a responsibility to give meaning to those words, to take concrete steps and actions that deliver on that promise. Violence will not address the grievances of the Egyptian people. And suppressing ideas never succeeds in making them go away.”

Of course you could just listen to President Obama himself and read the story.


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RE: 0bama0 and Muslim discord - 1/29/2011 5:19:33 PM   
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Thanks. I needed a good laugh.

Delighted to be of assistance.

Doesn't it feel much better to laugh than to have all that hate festering inside you all the time?

Do try and turn it into a lifestyle - you won't regret it ever!

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RE: 0bama0 and Muslim discord - 1/30/2011 2:06:22 AM   
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It would have been 80% less, if then, President George W. Bush didn't reduce taxes for the rich (from 39% to 35%). Yes, Americans had a reduction in taxes, but the amount of money saved, was larger the higher in the tax brackets one went (no suprised, given GWB's political party).



The child tax credit (which is phased out for higher incomes), the 10% tax bracket change, and the AMT fix (which benefits the middle class far more than the rich) cost more than the reduction from 39 to 35. But why would facts ever enter into one of your posts.

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RE: 0bama0 and Muslim discord - 1/30/2011 7:24:35 AM   
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RE: 0bama and Muslim discord - 1/30/2011 7:44:40 AM   
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It will be a joy, however, to see the effect of $5 gasoline on his approval ratings. Can anyone say "Drill, Baby Drill!!!"


If you think more domestic drilling will bring down the cost of U.S. gasoline, then your understanding of global economics is even more simplistic than I suspected.



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RE: 0bama and Muslim discord - 1/30/2011 7:46:05 AM   
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RE: 0bama0 and Muslim discord - 1/30/2011 12:05:47 PM   
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Why not? The first three logos all represent authoritarian regimes, the last is usually clueless, and easily hijacked.

Fun poster. I hadn't seen that one.

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RE: 0bama0 and Muslim discord - 1/30/2011 12:40:23 PM   
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RE: 0bama0 and Muslim discord - 1/30/2011 1:56:42 PM   
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Status: offline 		Moon honestly has never heard of Islamic Socialism?

BAATH Party?

Nasser?

Libya, Syria, Iran, Sudan, all have 2 of the list, right off the top of my head. More if you care to look.




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RE: 0bama0 and Muslim discord - 1/30/2011 2:21:20 PM   
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RE: 0bama0 and Muslim discord - 1/30/2011 2:41:05 PM   
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Okay then. Name me an authoritarian regime that manages even two of the above, let alone three or four.


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RE: 0bama0 and Muslim discord - 1/30/2011 8:39:23 PM   
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ORIGINAL: TheHeretic


Why not? The first three logos all represent authoritarian regimes, the last is usually clueless, and easily hijacked.

Fun poster. I hadn't seen that one.


The crescent and star logo is usually seen as the symbol of the Islamic religion. I assume it's use here is meant to reflect the odd belief that Obama is a Muslim.

The hammer and sickle is associated with Marxism, most often with Soviet style Communism.

The swastika is the symbol of German Fascism, Hitler and his Nazis, though it was originally from the Ayrian people of South & South West Asia.

The fourth symbol is the symbol of peace movements and was first used by (I think) the Campaign for Nuclear Disarmament (CND) in the UK in the 50s & 60s.

For Obama to be all four he would have to be a Muslim Fascist Marxist pacifist - quite a mouthful and even less likely than it sounds.

Impossible for anyone to pull off.

But I do agree its a cool poster.


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RE: 0bama0 and Muslim discord - 1/30/2011 9:13:26 PM   
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Truckin', actually the administration is supporting Mubarak.
Did you see VP Joe Biden on the news the other day? "Mubarak is not a dictator!"
And Hillary Clinton is backing him up with all her chortling.
So, we have the Obama administration backing up a dictator with $Billions of Taxpayer Dollars and most Americans on the side of the protestors.
Should (we) get involved, of course not!!!

Somehow, somehow don't ask anybody here, that even though no American admin., has done anything about Egyptian autocracy for 40-50 years since Nasser...this admin., this one is different. I wonder why ?

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RE: 0bama0 and Muslim discord - 1/30/2011 9:16:49 PM   
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ORIGINAL: TheHeretic

Why not? The first three logos all represent authoritarian regimes, the last is usually clueless, and easily hijacked.

Fun poster. I hadn't seen that one.


The crescent and star logo is usually seen as the symbol of the Islamic religion. I assume it's use here is meant to reflect the odd belief that Obama is a Muslim.

The hammer and sickle is associated with Marxism, most often with Soviet style Communism.

The swastika is the symbol of German Fascism, Hitler and his Nazis, though it was originally from the Ayrian people of South & South West Asia.

The fourth symbol is the symbol of peace movements and was first used by (I think) the Campaign for Nuclear Disarmament (CND) in the UK in the 50s & 60s.

For Obama to be all four he would have to be a Muslim Fascist Marxist pacifist - quite a mouthful and even less likely than it sounds.

Impossible for anyone to pull off.

But I do agree its a cool poster.


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Hell, I don't know...I am an ultra-moderate, right-wing, revolutionary, pacifist. So it is possible. Well, isn't it ?

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RE: 0bama0 and Muslim discord - 1/30/2011 9:19:22 PM   
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Moon honestly has never heard of Islamic Socialism?

BAATH Party?

Nasser?

Libya, Syria, Iran, Sudan, all have 2 of the list, right off the top of my head. More if you care to look.

The key word here is of course...Islamic. Nowhere, do we see a real democratic socialism.

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RE: 0bama0 and Muslim discord - 1/30/2011 9:33:36 PM   
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Status: offline 		It might also have resulted from the fact that the US can influence the Egyptian government.  We have zero influence with the Iranian government and the Iranian government would have used any support we offered as "proof" that the protesters were controlled by us thus hurting their authority with many Iranians.

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RE: 0bama0 and Muslim discord - 1/30/2011 10:01:40 PM   
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Hell, I don't know...I am an ultra-moderate, right-wing, revolutionary, pacifist. So it is possible. Well, isn't it ?


Hmmmmmm........ an "ultra-moderate, right-wing, revolutionary, pacifist" hey?

I've heard you lot are capable of anything!

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