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LadyPact -> RE: Why are sub dudes such pussies? (1/30/2011 6:44:34 PM)
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ORIGINAL: StuntmanMike
Yes, there is a difference. But what must be understood here is that we, upon reading the OP's initial thoughts, do not know which group he is referring to. I learned long....LONG ago, that you can't really just assume everyone communicates perfectly. When I read the OP, I knew a couple of things right off the bat. 1) He wasn't talking about every single submissive male who walked the planet and B) He has evidently met enough submissive men to form such an opinion of them while meeting almost none of the type you are in a relationship with.
I think (can't prove) that if someone was dealing more with groups that were specifically geared more towards folks making their transition from the fantasy to the reality, they might have a different perspective then Me. For example, I'm friends with a gal who runs a group called ALOG (Alternative Lifestyle Outreach Group.) She sees way more folks than I do who might have certain misconceptions.
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It baffles me that these two facts were not immediately evident to everyone else. It also baffles me how many people jumped his shit without attempting to get him to clarify (you were one of the few who did not, though you still jumped his shit to a degree, despite the clarification).
Well, to be frank, I'm still a bit confused on the conjecture between owned/unowned. Like I said earlier, clip wasn't always owned by Me and it's not like he went from acting in the way the OP describes and then magically didn't anymore the day he was collared. There might be something to be said for males being successful who don't act that way, but that's probably more than I'm willing to attempt stating as fact. I'm only one person and My opinion on the matter may vary from what other people think.
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I've always been the type of man who says what I say, without really caring how someone else might read things into it. Those who are confused by something I say are free to ask for clarification. I'm a sucker for conversation and will happily clarify anything that is confusing. However, those who attempt to jump my shit based on an assumption place themselves into a group whose thoughts and feelings I could not care less about. I have neither time nor inclination to explain my thoughts to someone who would rather react to a perceived insult than to discuss what was actually said.
The problem with an internet forum is, unless a person writes a complete book, citing all of their experiences which have helped to form an opinion, there is always the possibility of misunderstanding. It's the medium.
One thing that might be worth mentioning here. During the course of the thread, somebody made a point of what they see here. I'm taking here to mean CM.
In My opinion, there are some subjects that this is a bad way to obtain data. The very key to this is that folks don't know if the poster they are dealing with has really left the fantasy stage and has any experience in an actual authority dynamic. Good example right here. You don't know Me from Adam. Everything that I've said on this thread, if you had no experience in the lifestyle, could be complete bullshit.
The very same can be the case if there are a number of posters here who come across as wimps, because they don't have the reality experience yet. All they have is the misconception.
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