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RE: Respect And Conversation - 2/7/2011 6:08:28 AM   
barelynangel


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Sourandsweet, did you REMOTELY READ my post or did you simply for your own agenda miss the words such as IN OUR HOME and MY motivation etc?  Also, just out of morbid curiosity -- do you remotely see the irony in your post?  You are attempting to lecture people on some skewed concept in your mind of ONE WAY, when you pretty much are lecturing for people to post YOUR way. 

Where did i remotely say i wasn't ALLOWED to be displeased with his behavior?  I was ALLOWED to do as i wished however HE decided the consequences of my decision.  So again, its that reading for your own agenda and then posting trying to put words and ideas into other people's posts that aren't there.  You really may want to work on that before someone not as nice as i am spells it out for you.  My former Master put up with a lot but one thing he drew the line at no matter how playful it was, was an attempt to be calculating manipulative.   If i wanted him to shut up so i could finish my thought, then he would rather have me SAY that to him instead of trying to "teach" him a lesson so to speak.  He did the same to me when i started doing that to him.  As i said in the beginning of my post IN OUR HOME, motivation would be taken into account.  But i guess you needed to miss that in order to lecture.

You will find, it is MY way, that is what i speak about because that is what i know.  I won't apologize for it and i sure the heck won't put 271302193201321038219821 disclaimers in my posts because some people are too insecure and too sensitive or too stupid and want to find offense in others posts  -- to realize that posts online are not guidelines for THEIR life but simply are discussions of other people's lives. 

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< Message edited by barelynangel -- 2/7/2011 6:15:50 AM >


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RE: Respect And Conversation - 2/7/2011 9:16:19 AM   
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There can be a strong difference in cultural patterns of speech too. I noticed it in the Navy.

There seem to be some regions in some Yankee areas where they absolutely cannon stand any lull in the jabber during a conversation. Conversely, in the Deep South, you will hear a 3-5 second silence while the listener waits to make sure the talker is finished before chiming in. You get a Yankee and a Southerner talking a while then talk to them separately and you may hear...

Yankee... there must be somethig wrong with that guy. I talk and he just stand there and never says anything. He must be dumb as a box of rocks.

Southerner... That Yankee sure is rude. He won't shut up long enough to let anyone else get a word in edgewise.

I work with people from all over the country and elsewhere... I've learned to be a conversational chameleon. Gad, the local boys think one fellow from NYC and I are always yelling at each other and he says I'm the only hick down here that can carry on a decent conversation. <grin> To him, anyone south of Jersey is a hick.

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RE: Respect And Conversation - 2/7/2011 9:32:58 AM   
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quote:

Yankee... there must be somethig wrong with that guy. I talk and he just stand there and never says anything. He must be dumb as a box of rocks.

Southerner... That Yankee sure is rude. He won't shut up long enough to let anyone else get a word in edgewise


Oh! How true that is. Except... I was raised in the military, between NJ and the Carolinas... hmmm... would I still be a hick according to your friend?

probably, I dont sound the one of the Housewives of NJ... lol

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RE: Respect And Conversation - 2/7/2011 4:43:25 PM   
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Bursts out laughing, Merctech you hit it big time.  I am a transplant to Nashville from Chicago and good lord, people from home tell me i now talk to damn slow (remember that fast talking chick from the Cosby show, Vanessa's friend -- THAT used to be me lol) and people down here tell me i talk too fast.  While i can still participate with those back home with no issue down here good lord you can't help but finish their sentences because it takes them forever to finish a sentence. 

I wonder if people who have issues with others talking over them ever been a part of a real full out dinner with Italians -- not only do you have people who talk a mile a minute and understand each other with no issue, they have the hands going also and FOOD all at the same time.  Its awesome!

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RE: Respect And Conversation - 2/8/2011 8:08:25 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: PrincessofSadden

Princess has this habit of talking over me and interrupting me while we speak. I find this to be very annoying and disrespectful. I am most definitely her submissive but in day to day conversation i still expect to be able to get out a sentance or two before being run over... Any other submissive's have this?


I think the key thing to consider here in what you asked..."any other submissives...." Within D/s relationships... speech restrictions may not be part of their given dynamic.... It could very well be that that speech and communication is an area that there is no transfer of authority or negotiation on how it can or well occur. In situaitons where this is becoming a problem I would suggest that you open up a dialogue on how this should or can occur within your relationship.

However... in my relationship and as Kyra already explained how it works to some degree. But we are an M/s relationship. There is some rather set protocols established on how communication is going to occur in our dynamic. I will and do shut my girls down in talking when I so please too... and I allow them to talk at my pleasure as well. So feeling of annoyance or disrespect is actually putting their expectation to talk in front their requirment of obedience......

If I should start talking and interupt them... they "SHUT UP!" As they are required to do!.... when I am finished... if they still wish to say something more... they will speak when I am done talking. No passive aggressive crap waiting for me to ask them "Why" they are not talking. They know they are slaves and know their place as a slave in our relationship.... Sometimes... I interrupt them for shits and giggles! It's fun to watch them fumble holding their train of thought on something they might want to say as I distract them with something else... of course... that happens on the lesser important conversations.... those critical conversations... well... not games there... it's not a time for that.

Lastly, Just because one is interupted doesn't mean that communication will fail or has failed.... It' only fails when one's desire to communicate stops.... but... as I said... we have the protocols and procedures in place in our dynamic... it works extremely well for us..... find out what works for you in your relaitonship.... and stick to it!

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