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RE: America’s Super Bowl Police-State Here we go… I... - 2/5/2011 6:43:31 AM   
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Well- better to molest a bunch of men then some meek old lady. At least that much is fine.
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Here we go… ICE, Robots, Choppers, Fighters, Bomb DogsTSA Screening, Full Pat-Downs… Welcome to the #1 Sporting Event in the “Land of the Free”! A CBS video explains the Super Bowl security by way of a demonstration:
With speed and precision, an airborne SWAT team closes in on twin targets: a suspicious airplane and car. Working side by side federal agents and Miami-Dade police finish the take down (of a U.S. Civilian) Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano says there is no credible threat against the Super Bowl. But, it’s an obvious target and the recent attempted bombing of Northwest Flight 253 is a warning that al Qaeda is intent on hitting the U.S.CBS News.
But, Secretary Napolitano points out that “the greatest threat is posed by the so-called lone wolf – an individual carrying a small, concealed bomb” (remember Black Sunday?).
Watch CBS News Videos Online This video has a heading “Super Bowl fans attending Sunday’s game to be treated to airport-like security“ It doesn’t show the heavy artillery but it explains that You Will “empty your pockets, go through metal detectors and then be Searched By HandSuper Bowl security “official” addresses any concerns:
“A Pat-Down, a limited pat-down that can go to a full pat-down will be utilized. If folks Have an Issue with that… then they should NOT Come to the Game.”

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RE: America’s Super Bowl Police-State Here we go… I... - 2/5/2011 6:44:58 AM   
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treated to airport-like security/snip

Why?  There is no plane to fall out of the air.     WHY?  Are people that paranoid?   And if there is a lone wolf-  maybe the govt is not serving the people.

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RE: America’s Super Bowl Police-State Here we go… I... - 2/5/2011 7:05:43 AM   
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Well- better to molest a bunch of men then some meek old lady. At least that much is fine.
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Here we go… ICE, Robots, Choppers, Fighters, Bomb DogsTSA Screening, Full Pat-Downs… Welcome to the #1 Sporting Event in the “Land of the Free”! A CBS video explains the Super Bowl security by way of a demonstration:
With speed and precision, an airborne SWAT team closes in on twin targets: a suspicious airplane and car. Working side by side federal agents and Miami-Dade police finish the take down (of a U.S. Civilian) Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano says there is no credible threat against the Super Bowl. But, it’s an obvious target and the recent attempted bombing of Northwest Flight 253 is a warning that al Qaeda is intent on hitting the U.S.CBS News.
But, Secretary Napolitano points out that “the greatest threat is posed by the so-called lone wolf – an individual carrying a small, concealed bomb” (remember Black Sunday?).
Watch CBS News Videos Online This video has a heading “Super Bowl fans attending Sunday’s game to be treated to airport-like security“ It doesn’t show the heavy artillery but it explains that You Will “empty your pockets, go through metal detectors and then be Searched By HandSuper Bowl security “official” addresses any concerns:
“A Pat-Down, a limited pat-down that can go to a full pat-down will be utilized. If folks Have an Issue with that… then they should NOT Come to the Game.”




you gotta be shitting me!  They are still playing that al qeada fucking be very afraid re-run?


time to charge the government with their own terrorism regs.

needlessly causing panic and oppression


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RE: America’s Super Bowl Police-State Here we go… I... - 2/5/2011 7:09:50 AM   
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Why don't you alert your 'provosts'?

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RE: America’s Super Bowl Police-State Here we go… I... - 2/5/2011 7:10:59 AM   
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fuck me ragged,

havent had enough yet huh?
more PA idiocy/cowardice again

surely the Superbowl - along with other major sporting/cultural events - is representative of AMERICA -

says who you?  BBWwwhahahaha

and calling it off just means that "the bad guys (or just their spectres) win"

Win what?


I am sure Americans will bumble amiably through the security checkpoints - probably more sober than their British football fan equivalents

Yeh who would bother to protect their rights when there is a game at stake!


its like the old quote when Churchill was asked why he wouldn't reduce the arts budget during WW2 - he is reported to have replied “Then what are we fighting for?"

More police state! you know freedom!

Enjoy the day - whining, pathetic others - go for a walk, do some overtime at work (IF you work) - loads of people will be delighted if you provided cover I am sure - but (mainly) stop
bloody whining and crapping your pants at shadows and cars backfiring - you live in (and enjoy, generally)

You mean like the people at Waco and wtc did? 


a country built by people who would have gone out to see what the noise WAS, not
hide in the basement posting wild guesses about it on websites run by their weaker-willed comrades

the match needs a ball - some of the posters on here need more

oh and **** the Packers. Seriously.


Oh and fuck you "ragged"..... Seriously.

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RE: America’s Super Bowl Police-State Here we go… I... - 2/5/2011 7:38:44 AM   
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fuck me ragged, more PA idiocy/cowardice again

Nawwww   not interested   But I am sure we can find someone to do that for you

surely the Superbowl - along with other major sporting/cultural events - is representative of AMERICA - and calling it off just means that "the bad guys (or just their spectres) win"

You mean like the World Series that (with the exception of Canada) only American's teams can play in.

I am sure Americans will bumble amiably through the security checkpoints - probably more sober than their British football fan equivalents

Yeah   I am sure you are right.    ROFLMAO   No one objects to having their pussies and balls fondled in the vanilla world.  ROFLMAO

its like the old quote when Churchill was asked why he wouldn't reduce the arts budget during WW2 - he is reported to have replied “Then what are we fighting for?"

I thought American's in WWII fought for mom's apple pie.   I think mom trumped the arts don't you?

Enjoy the day - whining, pathetic others - go for a walk, do some overtime at work (IF you work) - loads of people will be delighted if you provided cover I am sure - but (mainly) stop

I'll watch the history channel or the military channel or something.


bloody whining and crapping your pants at shadows and cars backfiring - you live in (and enjoy, generally) a country built by people who would have gone out to see what the noise WAS, not
hide in the basement posting wild guesses about it on websites run by their weaker-willed comrades

We having artillery attacks again?   or is this a Duck and Cover exercise?

the match needs a ball - some of the posters on here need more

I will be nice here   lol

oh and **** the Packers. Seriously.

Like the tight ends do we?

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RE: America’s Super Bowl Police-State Here we go… I... - 2/5/2011 8:12:09 AM   
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quote:

surely the Superbowl - along with other major sporting/cultural events - is representative of AMERICA - and calling it off just means that "the bad guys (or just their spectres) win"

You mean like the World Series that (with the exception of Canada) only American's teams can play in.


45 Superbowls. Seems like a national past time to me. Lots of money is made on each one to the host city. Im curious as to how many cities will line up to refuse to host one.

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RE: America’s Super Bowl Police-State Here we go… I... - 2/5/2011 8:13:38 AM   
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A city with rolling black outs- where the hospitals lose power but the dome does not.

Who is the nut now?



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RE: America’s Super Bowl Police-State Here we go… I... - 2/5/2011 8:22:35 AM   
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Pittsburgh had no such problems. Not sure if the other city did or did not.

As far as the blackouts...

EL PASO, Texas -- El Paso Electric spokesman spoke with ABC-7 Friday morning about the winter storm that knocked all local power generators out at the EPE's two power plants, how rolling blackouts work and the possibility the blackouts could continue into Super Bowl Sunday.

Wednesday morning, EPE's eight generators at its two local plants went out due to the extreme cold. Quintana said Friday, "We hope to get one, maybe two units up by the end of today."

Quintana said they are not waiting for any parts to fix the local generators. He explained it wasn't just the cold that caused the local generators to fail, but another aspect of the weather. He said EPE's plants were built to handle 105 degrees, extreme cold temperatures compounded with windchills.

"In 1962, the temperature went to -8," Quintana said. "We don't have a record of what the windchill was then. The windchill in this storm was well, well below 0. It was the windchill that caused the problem. We have had cold temperatures in the past but it was the windchill (that caused the problems this time). We're waiting for it to thaw out. We thaw one part out and then another freezes."

Quintana said there are times when EPE sells energy to other power plants but it is not doing that currently because it is not generating any power and doesn't have any energy to sell.

Read the Q&A below:

ABC-7: How much power does the service area need?

Quintana:The area usually runs on 1100 megawatts per day in the winter.

ABC-7: How much power are we running on right now?

Quintana: Because the plants are offline, EPE is trying to keep us running at 850 to 900 MW per day.

ABC-7: When does EPE decide to issue a rolling blackout?

Quintana: The rolling blackouts start when we surpass 900 MW in usage, the blackouts are not on a schedule.

ABC-7: Why are some areas seeing more blackouts than others?

Quintaina: The service area is split into 35 "blocks." Blocks 1-17 are considered to be non-critical, that means there aren't near any hospitals, fire stations or emergency centers. If someone's lost power 10 times over the last few days, they're probably in one of those 'non-critical' blocks. People are not seeing as many blackouts probably live near hospitals, etc.

ABC-7: How do they decide which non-critical blocks to turn off first?

Quintana: They are selected randomly.

ABC-7: We're getting complaints from callers saying they've lost power six times and their sister hasn't lost power at all on the West Side, so (are rolling blackouts) completely random?

Quintana: The sister may be hooked up to a feeder that's feeding a critical operation. They will never get cut off. I have friends of mine that live near the hospital and they won't get cut off because they happen to be on the same feeder as the hospital. Some customers will not get cut off. You all will not get cut off unless it is a very critical situation. TV stations and radio stations are the last ones to get off.

ABC-7: When it comes to rolling blackouts, do you start them at specific times or when it looks like it's going to overload (the system) and there's a problem?

Quintana: We have a meter that tells us what our load is and we need to keep it between 850 and 900 MW in order to not lose the entire system. When we get over 900 MW, which we were at now, we start shutting loads. And each load has its own measure of megawatt. So if we need to lose a lot, we'll choose a block that has a lot of customers. If we don’t need to lose a lot, we will choose one with less customers. We have to make sure that number doesn't go above a certain megawatt. The only thing sustaining us is power from Palo Verde and buying power from east of us. Let's say we don't shed a load and our regular load is 1100 MW a day during the winter ... let's say we let it go to that ... with no local generation. Let's say ... (we aren't having blackouts) and everyone is on, and one of those transmissions goes out, we are going to have a total system outage because we don't have local generation to bring up. It would be a couple of days to get the power back up. That is why we need to keep the lights on as much as possible but we need to shed loads. That's why we have to do rolling blackouts.

ABC-7: When the rolling blackouts are instituted for, you say 45 minutes to an hour, is it pretty much at the hour you guys will check and if you're below 900 before you turn those without power back on?

Quintana: (For example,) we have people that are going to bring down block number seven. Somebody is watching it for 45 min to an hour. We will hit the button and put them back on and take someone else off. We open those breakers by computers but if we want to close them back to reconnect, sometimes they won't reconnect. We have to reconnect them manually. We have workers across town ready for that to happen. There are thousands of breakers around town. We're not having transmission problems. Our problem is a generation problem.

ABC-7: Why am I getting a recording when I call that EPE hotline?

Quintana: They do have actual staff members answering the phone calls. If people get a recording, that's because the operators are busy.We've been flooded with calls from people just wanting to complain. They want to remind people to only call this number if you've been without power for more than an hour. Numbers are 877-3400 in TX, 575-523-7591 in NM

ABC-7: Once the temperature rises, do you expect the electricity to be restored or are you expecting problems with equipment?

Quintana: Our transmission system has held up. We have not had transformer problems or transmission problems. We don't anticipate any problems.

ABC-7: With this poor buying on open market, what should our viewers be prepared for on their next electric bill? Is this something that's going to boost it 5-20-100 percent?

Quintana: We're not sure. We buy power all the time. When it's cheaper to buy power than to run a plant, we buy power.

ABC-7: But it's at a premium right now, right?

Quintana: The problem we're having is the plants we buy from are having the same problem. The amount of power to buy is very limited right now.

ABC-7: Are there any limits on the cost of the power that you buy or does it fluctuate with the market?

Quintana: It fluctuates.

ABC-7: We are also getting questions about the Super Bowl. Do you expect this problem to be solved by Sunday?

Quintana: Like who's gonna win it or what?

ABC-7: Are they going to get to watch it?

Quintana: Well, we will hope by this evening that we will have enough local generation. The weather will cooperate tomorrow (Saturday). We're working our darndest to try to get some local generation up that will keep. I can't tell you for sure (about whether Super Bowl could be interrupted by rolling blackouts).


http://www.kvia.com/news/26748165/detail.html

Now, as you were saying about hospitals losing power but the dome will not?

Seems the wind chills and the fact that the generators were not designed to be run in temperatures that cold is a big part of the problem.

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RE: America’s Super Bowl Police-State Here we go… I... - 2/5/2011 8:36:19 AM   
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DALLAS (CBSDFW.COM) – As brief power outages rolled across the state on Wednesday, certain places were intended to be exempt from a temporary loss of electricity. That included hospitals, nursing homes, fire stations, police stations, other emergency response facilities… and Cowboys Stadium? When officials with Oncor said that the Arlington site of Sunday’s Super Bowl XLV would not be a part of the rolling outages, many residents became furious. But this was not entirely a choice made by the local utility company. With thousands of reporters huddled in North Texas hotels and thousands of rabid football fans attending the NFL Experience at the Dallas Convention Center, and two football teams preparing to do battle on the field of Cowboys Stadium this Sunday, the North Texas Super Bowl XLV Host Committee had a big request to make. “It is vitally important we don’t have blackouts,” said committee vice president Tony Fay. Fay asked the City of Dallas, the City of Fort Worth and the City of Arlington to ensure that rolling blackouts did not prevent planned events from happening at Super Bowl venues. That news really steamed up some homeowners who were left without power for hours. “We’re not prioritizing,” said frustrated Plano resident Allen Hooser. “Hospitals and the grocery store, which is out. But for a PR stunt, where you can go throw a football, you have power and heat.” “Not because of any preferential treatment. Not because we’re trying to protect VIPs or celebrities,” Fay explained. “It is a public safety issue.” According to Fay, if there was to be a blackout at an NFL venue, then there would be no way to screen for security. Oncor is among the utility companies which are implementing rolling blackouts. Company spokeswoman Megan Wright said that public safety is crucial. “The Central Business District in Dallas has multiple high rises where there could be lots of people,” Wright explained. “If they lose power, it could be a bad safety situation.” But there is another, unavoidable reason that Cowboys Stadium will not experience a blackout. That venue sits on multiple power grids. If one goes out, another flips on seamlessly, without any interruption to power. So, although one grid might see a blackout, the rolling outage process ensures that the stadium is always receiving power from another grid. Downtown Dallas and Fort Worth are also on multiple, redundant power grids. According to Oncor, businesses and residents can pay extra money to be on multiple power grids, but it could cost hundreds of thousands of dollars for the infrastructure to be set up. And even then, technically, rolling blackouts could still be possible to those people.

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RE: America’s Super Bowl Police-State Here we go… I... - 2/5/2011 8:41:57 AM   
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But there is another, unavoidable reason that Cowboys Stadium will not experience a blackout. That venue sits on multiple power grids. If one goes out, another flips on seamlessly, without any interruption to power. So, although one grid might see a blackout, the rolling outage process ensures that the stadium is always receiving power from another grid. Downtown Dallas and Fort Worth are also on multiple, redundant power grids. According to Oncor, businesses and residents can pay extra money to be on multiple power grids, but it could cost hundreds of thousands of dollars for the infrastructure to be set up. And even then, technically, rolling blackouts could still be possible to those people.

Your own source explains it all.



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RE: America’s Super Bowl Police-State Here we go… I... - 2/5/2011 8:49:11 AM   
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dont be so hard on yourself we forgive you!



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if I start laughing at this BS I'd never stop
and the wireless power transmission?
you know, the other part of the combo that would make you the richest man on the planet - but you can't be bothered to produce/market (errr if it worked, someone would do all that for you for, say, 10% of the cake, I can guarantee that! )

jesus you could run a city from the fumes off the crap that gets spouted by some on here, thats for sure!


who let you our of your cage anyway?

do you know how to use a computer? 

How many times do I have to tell the idiots out here to look up konstintan meyl who has PROVEN it to work how many fucking times now at glascou and 2 other universities.

I see you still enjoy getting fucked ragged LOL






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RE: America’s Super Bowl Police-State Here we go… I... - 2/5/2011 8:50:46 AM   
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~chuckles

Im going to go with the belief that your post was not directed at me.

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RE: America’s Super Bowl Police-State Here we go… I... - 2/5/2011 8:53:54 AM   
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that your best retort? I suspect (in pure technical terms) I have more computing experience than most, having designed trading and control systems for banks, government (boo!) agencies and private companies... all the way from card-readers. through big Sperry boxes - the works!

and yet I still know more about Americana than you? good luck with that wireless power, Tesla-lite jobless loser

using arguments a 12yo frenchman wouldn't even bother with - classic - and you expect to be held credible on ANY SUBJECT IN EXISTENCE?

your self-loathing is tiresome - as are your bizarre and pathetic LIES


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RE: America’s Super Bowl Police-State Here we go… I... - 2/5/2011 9:08:23 AM   
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But there is another, unavoidable reason that Cowboys Stadium will not experience a blackout. That venue sits on multiple power grids. If one goes out, another flips on seamlessly, without any interruption to power. So, although one grid might see a blackout, the rolling outage process ensures that the stadium is always receiving power from another grid. Downtown Dallas and Fort Worth are also on multiple, redundant power grids. According to Oncor, businesses and residents can pay extra money to be on multiple power grids, but it could cost hundreds of thousands of dollars for the infrastructure to be set up. And even then, technically, rolling blackouts could still be possible to those people.

Your own source explains it all.




Nooooo.  They applied for a waiver.

and got it.   Trumping the hospitals.   You are a wiz at research.  Go for it. This is your field of training I thought.

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RE: America’s Super Bowl Police-State Here we go… I... - 2/5/2011 9:09:59 AM   
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that your best retort? I suspect (in pure technical terms) I have more computing experience than most, having designed trading and control systems for banks, government (boo!) agencies and private companies... all the way from card-readers. through big Sperry boxes - the works!

and yet I still know more about Americana than you? good luck with that wireless power, Tesla-lite jobless loser

using arguments a 12yo frenchman wouldn't even bother with - classic - and you expect to be held credible on ANY SUBJECT IN EXISTENCE?

your self-loathing is tiresome - as are your bizarre and pathetic LIES




Of course you can not criticize the Crown-  you are a subject- and hence must obey strict libel laws.

And your people burned down the White House!  We shall never forget!!!

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RE: America’s Super Bowl Police-State Here we go… I... - 2/5/2011 9:38:21 AM   
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~chuckles

Im going to go with the belief that your post was not directed at me.


he was talking about himself!


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RE: America’s Super Bowl Police-State Here we go… I... - 2/5/2011 9:40:25 AM   
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~chuckles

Im going to go with the belief that your post was not directed at me.


he was talking about himself!



I doubt he can do that.  The Queen imposes very strict libel laws.

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RE: America’s Super Bowl Police-State Here we go… I... - 2/5/2011 9:53:21 AM   
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Have you considered emailing yourself?

Is that fun?

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RE: America’s Super Bowl Police-State Here we go… I... - 2/5/2011 9:53:37 AM   
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He cant help it-  they trample eachother to death over there over a sports game- so this savagery is nothing to imitate.

2.   let the stadium use a generator- not the hospitals.

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