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gungadin09 -> RE: In loco-parentis & Responsibility. (2/6/2011 12:30:47 AM)

Heeheehee.

pam



IronBear -> RE: In loco-parentis & Responsibility. (2/6/2011 12:36:54 AM)

I'm going to play devil's advocate here for a while. It sounds like most are treating this poster as though she is a sub and not a slave. her greeting and her name "kefgirl"  should have been a huge indicator that the OP is a kajira or being trained as one. Perhaps on line rather than living within the Gorean Lifestyle. Now were she part of a lifestyle Gorean home, few Masters would loan a girl out so easily and certainly they would be checking on her return for possible damage. Even when I was part of the Gorean Community Living the lifestyle, I would have lathered her tail feathers for not taking immediate first aid to her wound. If the "master" who used her and didn't offer comfort and after care would find himself on the verge of a blood feud for dammaging my property so carelessly. I've seen it happen in the US and in one case the two Masters sorted it out with a knife fight in a ritual circle.



GreedyTop -> RE: In loco-parentis & Responsibility. (2/6/2011 12:44:43 AM)

Regards, IB.. I hope that you and yours are all well, and safely away from the horrific damage from the storms..

I think, regardless of a Gorean orientation, that most are essentially agreeing with you..with the added bit of..if nobody ELSE is going to take care of the wounds, then she certainly should have done so herself, if for no other reason than it would be her responsibility to care for her Owners property....

(I'm sleepy, so that may not have come out correctly.. pls ignore if that was mangled at all.  I need to stay awake-ish for another hour or so for my sleep sched. to suit my job sched. tomorrow.. *sigh*)



IronBear -> RE: In loco-parentis & Responsibility. (2/6/2011 1:03:44 AM)

Thank you GT, we are well and out of the flood and cyclone area. You are really a darling, You put your post perfectly, thank you. I guess i am seeing this through both non Gorean and Gorean eyes which also raises a number of questions. 



GreedyTop -> RE: In loco-parentis & Responsibility. (2/6/2011 1:07:24 AM)

I am happy to hear you are all safe, IB

*sends respectful hugs to you and your House (well, not the house... oh hell, you know what I mean)*



TotalDiscipline -> RE: In loco-parentis & Responsibility. (2/6/2011 3:02:04 AM)

3:Was a punishment session, not play. Aftercare was not discussed.

doesn't this say it all?
Just curious...did you ask for an answer in the Gorean forum part also?




JstAnotherSub -> RE: In loco-parentis & Responsibility. (2/6/2011 6:06:00 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: kefgirl


To clarify;
The 'expert Master of 30 yrs' wiped the blood of my thigh with sweat covered fingers...perhaps that may be a reason the cut became infected. However that is not the original question. Perhaps the said expert thought 'property' is beneath or not deserving of aftercare ?. However that is a topic in itself.


If said property doesn't have enough sense to realize she is in need of a visit to the doctor due to an infection, well, who would want to own something that was that clueless.

Really, becoming property should not mean giving up common sense.

shaking head....



GreedyTop -> RE: In loco-parentis & Responsibility. (2/6/2011 6:07:59 AM)

*sighs*

sub frenzy



SourandSweet -> RE: In loco-parentis & Responsibility. (2/6/2011 6:28:16 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: kefgirl


Littlewonder This is not about the wound itself. It is about responsibilty. If someone gave you care of thier valuable property, would you not honour that trust.
If someone placed a living being in your care, would you not at least phone or mail said living being to adhere to your "acceptance of responsibilty".
That, Littlewonder is the point.


I may be completely off the mark here, but it seems to me that your objection is to the fact that this man who you met once (?) didn't call you afterwards to check you were ok?

Could it be that you developed some emotional connection and are hurt that his lack of communication shows it to be a one-way thing?

Again, apologies if I'm wrong, but that's what I'm picking up from this.

Regarding the rest - a man can call himself whatever he likes.  It doesn't mean he is what he claims to be.  If your Master could send you to someone who considers it acceptable to take out his anger on a sub in the way you describe I would personally be questioning his judgement.

I don't know the dynamics of your relationship.  My dom would never allow another man (or woman) to raise a hand to me (and heaven help them if they did), but if he did then I wouldn't have the choice to disobey.  However I would expect him to care for me, or provide care for me should it be needed after the fact.  But then you say you don't have a problem with what happened in itself, just the fact he didn't contact you after.

:-)



January -> RE: In loco-parentis & Responsibility. (2/6/2011 9:11:47 AM)

Fast Reply

kefgirl,

Please help us to understand your situation. I need to know a whole lot more about your Master.

Is he online only? Have you ever met him? Did he find this abusive cane guy for you, or did you arrange for this punishment session? Does Master Cane know your Master in RL?

When did this caning incident occur? How can you still be looking for a Master when you are supposedly owned? Is this whole discussion about infections and broken canes rhetorical?

January



DesFIP -> RE: In loco-parentis & Responsibility. (2/6/2011 1:35:00 PM)

Whether or not he has 30 years of experience is not germane. It was a one night stand, the op saw him once with no negotiation over implements, aftercare, etc. She went home and was incapable apparently of smearing some antibiotic ointment on a wound so it got infected. Her own top didn't bother to put any ointment on it when he got back and saw it wasn't healing.

Why the hell should some guy she was sent to for a beating be expected to show up every day, three times a day to put ointment and a bandaid on a cut escapes me entirely.



Kana -> RE: In loco-parentis & Responsibility. (2/6/2011 2:10:25 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: kefgirl


Tal and greetings to all. As I am relatively new to living the life.I find myself in a need for impartial guidance.
Names of persons involved will never be released. This is non fiction.
A female slave who was 'submitting' to her in-loco parentis Master, during a discipline session , the Master broke His cane...leaving bleeding cuts.
The master in question is an expert in His field, and a highly experienced Master having been active in the lifesyle for over 30 years.
Background info provided. My question is twofol
1: Master has additional responsibility in caring for another Masters property- yes/no ?
2: The bleeding cuts became infected, yet at no point did this "Highly Experieced" in-parentis even bother to send the girl a txt msg to astertain that all was well -is this normal/acceptable practice -?
3: The above event was a one off, though the persons involved have known each other for some time.
Yes, I understand I am capable of caring for infected wounds, however that is not my point. Repeated, constructive feedback would be most welcome. kefgirl


quote:

ORIGINAL: DesFIP

Whether or not he has 30 years of experience is not germane. It was a one night stand, the op saw him once with no negotiation over implements, aftercare, etc. She went home and was incapable apparently of smearing some antibiotic ointment on a wound so it got infected. Her own top didn't bother to put any ointment on it when he got back and saw it wasn't healing.

Why the hell should some guy she was sent to for a beating be expected to show up every day, three times a day to put ointment and a bandaid on a cut escapes me entirely.




Ahhh, C'mon DesFIP, idiocy abounds on the forums.
Sounds to me like everyone involved in this little triangle is oblivious, the slave most of all ( I mean really, C'mon. Stop whining, buy some Bacitracin and be responsible for your own well-being...like a grown up should. Sheesh)
Meanwhile, reading this makes me wanna go all Suop Nazi:
"No whips for you. Come back one year...."



DesFIP -> RE: In loco-parentis & Responsibility. (2/6/2011 2:25:20 PM)

I've got 5 teens eating me out of house and home today, and this before kickoff. Tolerance isn't something I've got a lot of, right this minute.



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