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RE: Explosives Found in World Trade Center Dust By: Ale... - 2/7/2011 1:59:02 PM   
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"believes they were not demolished I have a very simple little test "

Whatever. Look Man........

One bunch of shit is ten years old, the other bunch is seventeen years old. Don't you get it ?

Can you bring in something new ? Fuck rehashing this old shit again and again. It is to the point I don't care if my Father bombed the motherfuckers, in fact I would brag about it. Fukum.

And you don't even underfuckingstand, that people like you, with a hardon for the government should be happy about this. Celebrate it as a sign that they are destroying themselves. C;mon man. If you blow up a Sears, the insurance pays up and you build another Sears. If you want to. You could just take the money and run. It depends on if the place was making money.

Dude, why was there NEVER any talk of rebuilding the WTC ? If they were so useful and valuable, how the fuck are we getting along without them ?

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well this board frowns on anything to do with 911.   Several other boards have given it a topic zone of its own because frankly they too are tired of dealing with moderating it because there are many people out there who making a good living arguing the governments position and their job is to distract and get mods pissed so the threads get pulled.

The whole 911 thing has devolved into a propaganda war just like kennedy and the magic zigzagging bullet.

The philosophy is that barking dogs do not bite and as long as people are arguing with each other they are not burning the white house.

Aside from that you are correct and on this board I limits myself to one comment when the topic comes up and even on other boards I really only post anymore if I am feeling particularly sadistic since its so easy to beat these guys to death with their own bullshit.  LOL

I dont hate the government in and of itself its the certain rogue elements that many people are unaware of who infiltrated the government that I am unhappy about.

as far as lucky goes, he really does not count for anything.   I took one glance at what he said about me and laughed frankly and calling you out as a liar only once again proves what a fucking retard he is as you have shown.   Calling people liars out of the gate like that only serves to prove his own disabilities.

As one poster has already asked...what are we going to do about it ? Nothing, that's what. The only thing that could change that is if in the future there is enough hell raised, a grand jury would be formed when of course...one should have been formed anyway, 9/11 being a capital crime. There are rather obvious reasons none was formed. The govt. has far too much to hide.

(Note: Silverstein, brand new owner, amazingly the first in 33 years of the WTC is on tape that after...AFTER discussions with NYFD etc. they decided to 'pull' the building. To 'pull' a building is a demolition industry term meaning time to blow it down...implode it) That could not have been done only on 9/11. It would take at least a week to set that up. Also, it just so happens, the sprinkler system didn't work and its reservoir was essentially empty. Why ? Plus as I have written, in that bldg. was FBI and CIA field offices, a NY city emerg. response office and for the great payoff...a SEC office with 15 years of records on the investigation into WorldCom, Enron and the manipulation of its elec. power. market. That bldg. had to go down.

We have not seen and will not ever see a complete full blown trial on any political assassin or terrorist act. If we have...please, I want names, dates, transcripts. I don't think you will find any at all. The govt. has obviously way too much to hide.

You see what's going on in Egypt ? It would never happen here...Americans don't have the balls.



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RE: Explosives Found in World Trade Center Dust By: Ale... - 2/7/2011 2:01:54 PM   
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Status: offline 		luckydawg, my impression of Termyn8or is that he has some of the basics down a whole lot better than most of you. He has discipline many of you don't have. He is trying to democratize knowledge which cannot be done without a whole lot of will on the part of society. It is this that makes him appear foolish. For moral reasons he is intentionally confusing what should be with what is. Many of you are taking a whole lot on faith, but believe that you are not taking much on faith at all. The complaint is, the will is absent. In my estimation what Termyn8or is saying is that we, as society, are morally corrupt from an intellectual point of view. I cannot say that what he is saying is altogether untrue.

When you took the 9 seconds to check are you claiming that you actually know what you are looking at? Termyn8or is making is an epistemological argument (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epistemology) and your remarks, as odd as it may seem to you, are not on point. That is why Termyn8or is not yielding to your persuasion.

Comparatively speaking, Termyn8or needs to be taken more seriously than most of you. Few are his equal. It is evident in his writings that he is hard working. That is to be admired and it should be fostered. If I were a pimp, I would send Termyn8or one of my whores to service him and train him in the ways of logic. There would be no charge. The whore would be instructed upon leaving to say to Termyn8or these words, "Keep up the good work. You please my Master."

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RE: Explosives Found in World Trade Center Dust By: Ale... - 2/7/2011 2:13:54 PM   
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a grand jury would be formed

Another cover-up group. We have seen it before: WWI, WWII, Kennedy, Monroe, Reagan, Di, etc.

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RE: Explosives Found in World Trade Center Dust By: Ale... - 2/7/2011 2:17:02 PM   
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RE: Explosives Found in World Trade Center Dust By: Ale... - 2/7/2011 2:24:03 PM   
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luckydawg, my impression of Termyn8or is that he has some of the basics down a whole lot better than most of you.

I hate agreeing with lucky but in this case he's right if being too kind. Termy always makes claims based on his supposed knowledge which he can never back up and which is easily disproven.

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RE: Explosives Found in World Trade Center Dust By: Ale... - 2/7/2011 3:24:31 PM   
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a grand jury would be formed

Another cover-up group. We have seen it before: WWI, WWII, Kennedy, Monroe, Reagan, Di, etc.

Interesting. I never knew of a grand jury being formed for any of the above. Plus, once we declare war, well who then feels as if there is a crime that needs to be investigated ?

Who was tried as a result of anything found relating to Reagan, Monroe and JFK or RFK ? Sirhan and Hinkley ? No. Oswald was murdered and his killer died of cancer. They otherwise copped a plea, they all being yet 'another troubled individual, acting alone.' ?

Di, I don't know, but I also don't see anything to gain either, while the 'gains' for 9/11 are quite obvious I am afraid.

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RE: Explosives Found in World Trade Center Dust By: Ale... - 2/7/2011 3:36:39 PM   
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and the dumb ass thinks that is actually a usefull analogy.

Plus you are a fan Of Nazi Germany realone. You have given us hours of holocoust de-nile, and pro Nazi filth.


As well as lies about fusion generators.

I have noticed that you do not seem to address any of the questions involved, of which there are many. What the Nazis and fusion generators have to do with WTC 7 is something I am sure we'd all like to read.

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RE: Explosives Found in World Trade Center Dust By: Ale... - 2/7/2011 5:30:02 PM   
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I hate agreeing with lucky but in this case he's right if being too kind. Termy always makes claims based on his supposed knowledge which he can never back up and which is easily disproven.


Thank you DomKen for taking the time. I too have had occasion to point this out to Termy as well. That said, what I am saying is that Termy does in fact have an honest to goodness grasp of some of the basics of logic and this is what is rubbing everyone wrong. Logic even though as I've pointed out in another thread has bounds and meters it can enable you to do extraordinary things. It encourages democracy because it has the potential to make knowledge and good judgment available to everyone.

I wrote a friend who would be more knowledgeable on the topic than I am. He wrote, "There is now some knowledge about how aspirin works, but it did take a long time to run it down. The research was motivated by finding patents on similar COX 2 inhibitors, which turn out to have risks." This gives me some insight into what Termy is talking about. Given what my friend wrote, apparently, no one understood how aspirin worked for a long time. It is not hard to imagine that this resulted in a lot confusion in the early literature. It is my understanding that aspirin does encourage bruising in the elderly and so it isn't a wonder drug as it was once thought to be. Presumably, Termy's mom is elderly. I believe this is the point Termy was making and I'm glad he loves his mom. The topic gets him choked up. Give this man a girlfriend, he he.

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RE: Explosives Found in World Trade Center Dust By: Ale... - 2/7/2011 9:47:07 PM   
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RE: Explosives Found in World Trade Center Dust By: Ale... - 2/7/2011 10:02:03 PM   
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It is my understanding that aspirin does encourage bruising in the elderly and so it isn't a wonder drug as it was once thought to be.


Why, why why would anyone think that something with an anticoagulant property would NOT enhance bruising?

Should I take aspirin?
Daily aspirin is not right for everyone. Don't start taking aspirin regularly without talking to your doctor first. Aspirin's anti-clotting action can cause unwanted side effects such as stomach bleeding and bleeding in the brain. People who have stomach ulcers, a history of gastrointestinal bleeding, blood-clotting disorders, uncontrolled high blood pressure, and liver or kidney disease may need to avoid aspirin.

Aspirin should not be taken by people who are at risk for or who have had a hemorrhagic stroke, which is a type of stroke that is not caused by a blood clot but rather by bleeding into and around the brain.

Aspirin can trigger asthma attacks in some people who have a sensitivity to it.

Also, don't take aspirin without first talking to your doctor if you're already taking prescribed blood thinners, such as Coumadin. The combined effect could cause bleeding problems.

http://www.webmd.com/heart-disease/tc/low-dose-aspirin-therapy-topic-overview?page=2

This is not new information. This was standard information in the early 90's. Doesnt anyone take responsibility for their own physical health when it comes to medications?

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RE: Explosives Found in World Trade Center Dust By: Ale... - 2/7/2011 10:57:37 PM   
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In a word WOW ! This is so CMish. We start out with the WTC. Now it's aspirin and legal knowledge. Who knows what's next ?

Then we have the ubiquitous Ken, saying that he has disproved my assertations. Well if I think back, I think he did once, possibly twice. To my satisfaction. I don't accept proof as others do. The source doesn't matter so much as the content. When people attempt to disprove me, it is usually "Well this well respected source says........" . That is simply not how I draw my conclusions. What others consider empirical evidence is not at times. This is proven time and time again by the "authorities" on a given subject reversing themselves, repeatedly. And that's even discounting new discoveries, which come along from time to time on every subject from abacus to zebra.

There is so much about the 9/11 incident about which I don't really care, nor expect anyone else to. Like the videos supposedly showing a rocket or missile hitting right before the plane. Now why would they need a missile when they have a plane ? Ever watch a movie when the camera pans across the horizon just below the sun ? It's called an abberation. But for some it is proof that aliens are running the world. Well they are, but they are not extratrresrial. They are simply alien to us, the commoners, the proletarians. Actually I wish they would go find their own planet. I would chip in for the rocket fuel.

People are so amazed at how quickly and cleanly the building(s) collapsed. If you know about construction, you know they did because they were designed to do just that. In fact if not, the building permit would not have been issued. Surprised ? Not me. Can you imagine using the old conventional demolition techniques to fell such a building in such a densley populated area when it reached the end of it's life cycle ? The zoning people would never allow it.

And now that we are on the subject, tin hats are one thing, aluminum foil is not effective. The density of tin is much higher, and although it has a lower melting point, so does mercury. For optimum protection a type of double walled bottle should be contrived to contain the mercury in a semispherical shape, sized to one's cramium. Newer designs might incorporate an oval design, or perhaps even eliptical to reduce wind resistance.

This is not a pipe dream. I don't know what it is but it has nothing to do with pipes.

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RE: Explosives Found in World Trade Center Dust By: Ale... - 2/7/2011 11:02:35 PM   
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RE: Explosives Found in World Trade Center Dust By: Ale... - 2/7/2011 11:05:16 PM   
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Now it's aspirin and legal knowledge.


You know me by now, T. When stupid information is given, I simply have to educate.

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RE: Explosives Found in World Trade Center Dust By: Ale... - 2/8/2011 12:54:51 AM   
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They are simply alien to us, the commoners, the proletarians. Actually I wish they would go find their own planet. I would chip in for the rocket fuel.

They are a functional part of humanity and our species needs them. If they would miraculously disappear, our species will - and still does - simply bring forth more of them.

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RE: Explosives Found in World Trade Center Dust By: Ale... - 2/8/2011 6:39:57 AM   
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I hate agreeing with lucky but in this case he's right if being too kind. Termy always makes claims based on his supposed knowledge which he can never back up and which is easily disproven.


Thank you DomKen for taking the time. I too have had occasion to point this out to Termy as well. That said, what I am saying is that Termy does in fact have an honest to goodness grasp of some of the basics of logic and this is what is rubbing everyone wrong. Logic even though as I've pointed out in another thread has bounds and meters it can enable you to do extraordinary things. It encourages democracy because it has the potential to make knowledge and good judgment available to everyone.

I wrote a friend who would be more knowledgeable on the topic than I am. He wrote, "There is now some knowledge about how aspirin works, but it did take a long time to run it down. The research was motivated by finding patents on similar COX 2 inhibitors, which turn out to have risks." This gives me some insight into what Termy is talking about. Given what my friend wrote, apparently, no one understood how aspirin worked for a long time. It is not hard to imagine that this resulted in a lot confusion in the early literature. It is my understanding that aspirin does encourage bruising in the elderly and so it isn't a wonder drug as it was once thought to be. Presumably, Termy's mom is elderly. I believe this is the point Termy was making and I'm glad he loves his mom. The topic gets him choked up. Give this man a girlfriend, he he.

No. Termy has no grasp of logic. If he did he wouldn't have kept claiming an event happened that required a paradox.

As to aspirin, his initial claim was that it didn't work not that we don't know how it works. There is a huge difference.

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RE: Explosives Found in World Trade Center Dust By: Ale... - 2/8/2011 7:48:19 AM   
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Status: offline 		I wrote that I read an article which cast alot of doubt on aspirin's efficacy.

Apparently you read something conflicting.

A paradox is solved by muting supposed facts that don't fit, one or another conflicting piece of evidence. You claim to always know which one(s). You support those claims with cites that you consider "gospel". I do not accept them as such.

If not trusting the "experts" is illogical, so be it.

I won't bother posting my conclusions about aspirin, I don't want to stress you out.

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RE: Explosives Found in World Trade Center Dust By: Ale... - 2/8/2011 8:40:40 AM   
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People are so amazed at how quickly and cleanly the building(s) collapsed. If you know about construction, you know they did because they were designed to do just that. In fact if not, the building permit would not have been issued. Surprised ? Not me. Can you imagine using the old conventional demolition techniques to fell such a building in such a densley populated area when it reached the end of it's life cycle ? The zoning people would never allow it.

T^T

Absolutely unbelievable. Those bldgs were most certainly NOT designed to do that. To suggest such a thing means that at anytime it was sufficiently damaged, it was 'designed' to kill everybody left inside. They were designed to 'fail' in sections, three and specifially for the purpose...to SAVE lives.

The reason it came down like it did was specifically in fact exactly how any such skyscraper would HAVE to be brought down...the zoning laws or bldg. permits not withstanding. (bldg. permits are for building., demo permits quite another thing) Those bldgs. were designed in fact to withstand (survive) at least one and hopefully more than one airliner hit...look it up. Those so-called old demo techniques...are not old at all as most bldgs. of a very general design are imploded just as Silverstein agreed and ordered for WTC 7.

Also, there was NO...repeat NO buyers of that complex for 33 years. Why ? Because there was a estimated $2 BILLION asbestos mitigation environmental lien against it. WTC was a white elephant or otherwise...a piece of shit (completed in 1970) that had obtained waivers for all those years from the city. Any state-of-the-art improvements since its completion was performed by the tenants. WTC HAD TO GO once it was purchased and with a very unusual insurance clause in its contract with guess who...AIG. Silverstein sued for $7 billion. ($3.5 billion on each 'attack' and he made out like a bandit (which he is) by settling for $4.5 billion) Nice work if you can get it.

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RE: Explosives Found in World Trade Center Dust By: Ale... - 2/8/2011 8:55:17 AM   
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Those bldgs were most certainly NOT designed to do that.

Yes, they were. 911 was planned before these buildings were designed.

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RE: Explosives Found in World Trade Center Dust By: Ale... - 2/8/2011 9:00:34 AM   
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RE: Explosives Found in World Trade Center Dust By: Ale... - 2/8/2011 9:26:10 AM   
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Those bldgs were most certainly NOT designed to do that.

Yes, they were. 911 was planned before these buildings were designed.

No they weren't if you research the bldg's designers. I could believe this much...whoever was truly behind 9/11 may have seen on their radar as it were, a spike especially at the symbolism of the WTC and how that building fit right into their plans. This is also supported by the fact that Silverstein had just signed a new 99 year lease...just months prior to 9/11. (He didn't really buy the bldg.)

This could be seriously inferred by the fact that (Bush & Co. lies not withstanding) the FBI & CIA both knew of and planned for just such an attack of that nature especially after the failed attempt in 1993...also perpetrated by the FBI.

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