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RE: Explosives Found in World Trade Center Dust By: Ale... - 2/8/2011 9:30:33 AM   
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ORIGINAL: JohnWarren

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The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter. ~ Winston Churchill


That was before CollarMe.  The message board has speeded up things quite a bit

Now this has made me laugh...too bad it is correct what with all of the blogs now.

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RE: Explosives Found in World Trade Center Dust By: Ale... - 2/8/2011 10:20:52 AM   
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A paradox is solved by muting supposed facts that don't fit, one or another conflicting piece of evidence. You claim to always know which one(s). You support those claims with cites that you consider "gospel". I do not accept them as such.

You can't mute the fact that there was never one second of time in which your proposed scenario was possible.

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RE: Explosives Found in World Trade Center Dust By: Ale... - 2/8/2011 8:34:30 PM   
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Status: offline 		Removing all assumption these are the facts the best I can ascertain.

There was an accident in Iowa.

He called saying he needs bail.

Later he called and said he didn't need bail.

I actually did look and the letter is lomg gone, but it did exist.

He said verbatim, after the parties were identified "He told him 'If you try to arrest him, I will arrest you'".

I wll admit when I am wrong, but some so and so's say so doesn't cut it. (try saying that five times real fast). I must admit though, that I seemingly assumed they had mandatory insurance, otherwise how could this happen ? From my perspective it seemed so, but perhaps it wasn't. Such a scenario doesn't depend on the existence of a prima facie criminal law. And don't kid yourself, anything for which they can fine you, they can imprison you. That is for another time though.

In this instance I made an assumption, but it is totally possible that there were stricter laws having to do with such liability, not just in the state, where it wouldn't be listed among traffic laws at the time, but a criminal extension of tort law. And it could be a county or a city within that state. Remember that this was a state official preventing a local official from performing the arrest. That is where it boiled down to jurisdiction, which is not to be rehashed now, just this point. 

Thinking about these oficers' relative positions, also remember that this happened on a federal highway.

So, in all fairness I must admit to a possible incorrect conclusion, in fact probable. But the bearing on the rest of that argument is not affected. And again I just don't feel like playing that broken record now, do you ? If so start a thread.

I am admitting that I can make a mistake. That it is possible for me to make an incorrect assumption. Can you do the same ?

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< Message edited by Termyn8or -- 2/8/2011 8:41:35 PM >

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RE: Explosives Found in World Trade Center Dust By: Ale... - 2/8/2011 8:37:02 PM   
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He is highly constipated at this hour.

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RE: Explosives Found in World Trade Center Dust By: Ale... - 2/8/2011 8:44:53 PM   
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RE: Explosives Found in World Trade Center Dust By: Ale... - 2/8/2011 9:36:49 PM   
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Status: offline 		Flashback: Huffington Post Censors Jesse Ventura 9/11 Article
The popular mainstream news site, The Huffington Post, has been sold to AOL. On the day that Arianna Huffington sold her website for 315 million to internet giant AOL, it is even more important to remember what has happened in the Huffington Posts “illustrious” six years in operation. Not only has The Huffington Post been a liberal mecca, it has also censored documented 9/11 evidence on the grounds that they do not support “conspiracy theories.”

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RE: Explosives Found in World Trade Center Dust By: Ale... - 2/8/2011 10:35:50 PM   
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RE: Explosives Found in World Trade Center Dust By: Ale... - 2/9/2011 7:18:58 AM   
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Status: offline 		I agree!    Supposedly tho- blogs are more in line with what people think- bottom up- rather then top down.

Would the top media let anyone control the debate in any way shape or form?   Nope.  Not even close. Anything that rises toward that level gets corrupted-  not that huff post was any shining example.... they weren't.   and 315 mil $   HAAAAAAAAAA

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RE: Explosives Found in World Trade Center Dust By: Ale... - 2/9/2011 7:25:53 AM   
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Its sort of funny but those who claim they simply collapsed are smart enough to know the toothpicks will go right though their hand and remain standing LOL the irony!


Actually, if they go through the hand, they won't remain standing, they will remain stuck in the hand until they get pulled out. But don't take my word for it, please try it for yourself.


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RE: Explosives Found in World Trade Center Dust By: Ale... - 2/9/2011 7:41:11 AM   
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ORIGINAL: MrRodgers

Those bldgs. were designed in fact to withstand (survive) at least one and hopefully more than one airliner hit...look it up.


Why don't you look it up for us and present the evidence since you are the one making this claim?

I find it very hard to believe that any building ever designed was built with the intention of withstanding an airliner crashing into it.

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RE: Explosives Found in World Trade Center Dust By: Ale... - 2/9/2011 7:46:24 AM   
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RE: Explosives Found in World Trade Center Dust By: Ale... - 2/9/2011 7:48:46 AM   
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Status: offline 		7 went into free fall.  No plane ever hit it.  Try not to sneeze. 

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RE: Explosives Found in World Trade Center Dust By: Ale... - 2/9/2011 7:57:49 AM   
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Status: offline 		dont start that ignorant shit again, free fall is a result of gravity and doesn't require planes, in fact you are the biggest argument against any conspiracy regarding WTC7 (which was burning and was under the steady bombardment of the twin towers as they fell, weakening that structure.) when you mime that crap.




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RE: Explosives Found in World Trade Center Dust By: Ale... - 2/9/2011 8:53:57 AM   
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Status: offline 		Ron- when you deny the truth- you are aiding and abetting the terrorists. 

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RE: Explosives Found in World Trade Center Dust By: Ale... - 2/9/2011 9:18:14 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Termyn8or

Removing all assumption these are the facts the best I can ascertain.

There was an accident in Iowa.

He called saying he needs bail.

Later he called and said he didn't need bail.

I actually did look and the letter is lomg gone, but it did exist.

He said verbatim, after the parties were identified "He told him 'If you try to arrest him, I will arrest you'".

I wll admit when I am wrong, but some so and so's say so doesn't cut it. (try saying that five times real fast). I must admit though, that I seemingly assumed they had mandatory insurance, otherwise how could this happen ? From my perspective it seemed so, but perhaps it wasn't. Such a scenario doesn't depend on the existence of a prima facie criminal law. And don't kid yourself, anything for which they can fine you, they can imprison you. That is for another time though.

In this instance I made an assumption, but it is totally possible that there were stricter laws having to do with such liability, not just in the state, where it wouldn't be listed among traffic laws at the time, but a criminal extension of tort law. And it could be a county or a city within that state. Remember that this was a state official preventing a local official from performing the arrest. That is where it boiled down to jurisdiction, which is not to be rehashed now, just this point. 

Thinking about these oficers' relative positions, also remember that this happened on a federal highway.

So, in all fairness I must admit to a possible incorrect conclusion, in fact probable. But the bearing on the rest of that argument is not affected. And again I just don't feel like playing that broken record now, do you ? If so start a thread.

I am admitting that I can make a mistake. That it is possible for me to make an incorrect assumption. Can you do the same ?

T^T


Nice try. You still have no idea what you're talking about. Simply own it and quit doing the same thing over and over again and I'll stop humiliating you. Or you can get used to me posting info about double blind studies of aspirin against placebos alongside the above linked post and all the racist crap you've posted over the years.

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RE: Explosives Found in World Trade Center Dust By: Ale... - 2/9/2011 9:20:38 AM   
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ORIGINAL: pahunkboy

Ron- when you deny the truth- you are aiding and abetting the terrorists. 


I am denying no truth. 

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RE: Explosives Found in World Trade Center Dust By: Ale... - 2/9/2011 12:21:59 PM   
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7 was designed to structurally collapse with only a very little bit of help. I have not been able to a-certain that any explosives were used, except perhaps for a handful; unlike the twins.

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RE: Explosives Found in World Trade Center Dust By: Ale... - 2/9/2011 12:26:48 PM   
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Status: offline 		They never did find the gold that was stored in the WTC.

Or did they?

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RE: Explosives Found in World Trade Center Dust By: Ale... - 2/9/2011 12:33:08 PM   
Rule


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Status: offline 		Them Muslims that were not in the planes that did not exist must have stolen it when they did not crash into the towers. Kinda-like the movie 'Die hard". Unfortunately, Bruce Willis had a holiday at the time.

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RE: Explosives Found in World Trade Center Dust By: Ale... - 2/9/2011 12:44:49 PM   
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