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RE: Cow Tipping or keeping subs off balance in the land... - 2/11/2011 4:19:07 PM   
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Status: offline 		I don't want to be part of a relationship that's off balance. But I like a Dom who can keep ahead of me. If I get bored and I'm not feeling challenged...then I'm gonna do the challenging.

If someone wants to keep me guessing then I'd expect them to have the common sense not to expect me to read their minds or to be penalized for their mind fuckery.

Mind games, spice and randomness can be fun, but not all the time. Being surprised is nice, but most people can't manage it.

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RE: Cow Tipping or keeping subs off balance in the land... - 2/11/2011 4:54:50 PM   
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Status: offline 		As you say, consistency and reliability is very important in my day to day existence.
When it is 'play time' I do prefer that he mixes it up. I never ask what he has planned, and enjoy whatever he decides to do. I find a smidgen of fear, some heart pounding anxiety to be very satisfying!

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RE: Cow Tipping or keeping subs off balance in the land... - 2/11/2011 7:02:23 PM   
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Status: offline 		Soooo were you collared to me, and I walked in laughing my really evil laugh I am known for, and told you I needed to release my inner sadist and produced a long emu feather after donning latex gloves. Would you shudder in shock/horror, roll on the flaw roaring with laughter or run like hell?

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RE: Cow Tipping or keeping subs off balance in the land... - 2/11/2011 7:19:30 PM   
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ORIGINAL: IronBear

Soooo were you collared to me, and I walked in laughing my really evil laugh I am known for, and told you I needed to release my inner sadist and produced a long emu feather after donning latex gloves. Would you shudder in shock/horror, roll on the flaw roaring with laughter or run like hell?


Pics plz.

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Cow Tipping or keeping subs off balance


Two points I need to address.

1. Cow tipping. It's customary to tip cows 15-20% for good service. Most are hard workers deserving of a good tip.

2. Keeping the subs off balance. I can imagine the sailors on board the subs prefer the sub remain balanced. I'm sure the Navy has regulations regarding the ballast tanks in the subs.





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RE: Cow Tipping or keeping subs off balance in the land... - 2/11/2011 7:27:37 PM   
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RE: Cow Tipping or keeping subs off balance in the land... - 2/11/2011 10:13:43 PM   
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Status: offline 		i think what the op is meaning is how to keep the dynamic from becoming stale and boring. like cow tipping(yes i have done this) it is something to keep the spice in the life flowing. for most of the time a routine is good but if things get to be mundane it would need to be addressed. if i was in a dynamic that was always off kilter then i would probably find a new one soon as i crave the stability that i get in it now. for O/our dynamic there is always something different going on different meetings, classes, dungeons etc. but the main part of it is dependable in how i behave for my Mistress and react to Her needs

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RE: Cow Tipping or keeping subs off balance in the land... - 2/11/2011 10:27:09 PM   
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Status: offline 		I have to agree  with you mate, I crave stability (boring I know) but have had too much instability in my life times past. 

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RE: Cow Tipping or keeping subs off balance in the land... - 2/12/2011 6:20:02 AM   
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ORIGINAL: IronBear

Soooo were you collared to me, and I walked in laughing my really evil laugh I am known for, and told you I needed to release my inner sadist and produced a long emu feather after donning latex gloves. Would you shudder in shock/horror, roll on the flaw roaring with laughter or run like hell?

I would probably giggle and drop into sub space and be putty in your hands!

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RE: Cow Tipping or keeping subs off balance in the land... - 2/12/2011 7:19:51 AM   
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ORIGINAL: poise

There are certain areas in a relationship that for me have to be clearly defined and unwavering.
But I also thrive in the state of anticipation and uncertainty of whats to come.
Finding that balance in between is key.



This for me. Finding the balance in the relationship is key for me.

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RE: Cow Tipping or keeping subs off balance in the land... - 2/12/2011 7:23:39 AM   
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Status: offline 		First, welcome back Celeste. It is nice to see you posting again. You have been missed.

There is a lot of consistency in our relationship. However, most people probably wouldn't consider it consistent. The consistency comes in the fact that Alandra and I are to do his will and he will effectively pull us back on track if we stray from that path. There is also consistency in the fact that we can rely on him to change his mind on a regular basis.

We are usually considered high protocol and that for me is where the consistency and structure comes in. No matter where he decides to lead, we have a set protocol in how we are to behave and interact with him. He enjoys throwing a monkey wrench into plans and watching Alandra and I adapt, most often it is unintentional; he has just changed his mind.

Being his slave means being highly mentally and emotionally flexible and allowing him to set the expectations on what will or will not happen. Alandra and I find amusement in this aspect, sometimes there is frustration and scrambling to try and do what he wants, but most often it is just amusement.

One of the lines I use most often, "Yes, I trust you; I trust that you will cause me pain when you want to". Just like consistency. He is very consistent in that he can and does make a 180 degree turn and expects that Alandra and I keep up with him. Sometimes he does it just to fuck with us and sometimes it is because he has changed his mind.

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RE: Cow Tipping or keeping subs off balance in the land... - 2/12/2011 8:01:02 AM   
LadyPact


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Status: offline 		Great.  My boy has publicly admitted to cow tipping.  <sigh>  LOL.

On a serious note, for the dynamic itself, structure and stability has always been one of the goals.  This isn't to discount those fun things that Otters mentioned.  Far from it!  I can't imagine being so boring as to not reach out and grab a nipple while standing in the check-out line if I didn't feel like it.  (One of the advantages to having a male, rather than female sub as nobody looks at you funny for doing so.  It may not go as well if genders were reversed.)  During actual play time, I'm not going to sit here and say that I'm above mind fucks or anything else that might throw him for a loop once in a while.  I don't suppose I'd be in a great position if I tried to sit here and say that I've never decided it was play time at the spur of the moment, inflicted pain, and told him it was time to kneel.  I'm a sadist.  I like it.

At the same time, that's not the bigger picture.  The ownership that's been instilled has a much greater president.  At this point, I'd have a hard time shaking that in him, even if I tried.  It's part of what centers him.  The outside influences (stress, job, etc) don't have the same kind of pull on him when he's focused on the dynamic and what he knows are his requirements within it.  In a way, that structure helps him with balance.


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RE: Cow Tipping or keeping subs off balance in the land... - 2/12/2011 6:17:42 PM   
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Status: offline 		For a house to stand and endure, a strong and stable foundation is required. This is not much different than a relationship. However, specifically what is the foundation to a relationship will be different from relationship to relationship. I think it is important that those involved appreciate what is the foundations to their relationship that need to remain stable and strong. But after that... for me.... everything is far game..... and I love to play in the house that is built on that foundation!

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RE: Cow Tipping or keeping subs off balance in the land... - 2/12/2011 6:24:34 PM   
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I think keeping a relationship off balance is stupid and self destructive.

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RE: Cow Tipping or keeping subs off balance in the land... - 2/12/2011 7:41:38 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Kana

I love, as in lovelovelovelove, mental bondage for the reason you nailed, serious mind fucking and leash yanking. Keeping her held tight to my fist is just ecstasy to me...and despite her love/hate relationship with the idea, the fact that she is owned and property even at the deepest levels, and being reminded of it, rubbed against it, having it thrust, sometimes rammed into her, yeah, that is also perhaps the single most erotic thing that we do.


Greetings Bita,

I enjoy both aspects and appreciate the stable elements of the relationship and the consistency they bring. But I attribute that to him and recognize there are fluid moments that may incite a bit of teetering and despite the frustration that follows I'm completely enthralled by its occurrence. The intentional reminders of who I am and what that implies carve a deep impression in my head that's cathartic and orgasmic too.

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RE: Cow Tipping or keeping subs off balance in the land... - 2/12/2011 9:21:16 PM   
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Off balance in the relationship is like walking on eggshells, always being frantic and afraid. No thanks.




This. The very thought gives me the heebie-jeebies.

Maybe it's just my age, past 50. At this point in my life, I don't have the mental energy for instability and guessing games. I'd rather be the old cat lady that lives down the street and die alone than have an off-balance, "walking on eggshells" relationship.


Amen. The thought of that makes me ill.

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RE: Cow Tipping or keeping subs off balance in the land... - 2/12/2011 9:59:42 PM   
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Not knowing what good things are coming my way when, and being off-balance a bit when they surprise me = a very good thing.
Not knowing what is expected of me, and being off-balance because I don't know what to do, which is how I would view inconsistency = very bad thing.


Pretty much this.

However, specifically, i don't respond well to random acts of hanky-spanky style groping.  It raises instant feelings of irritation.  If irritation is what someone means by "off-balance", no thank you. i'm not into people who think i'm cute when i'm mad. i'm okay if this makes me no fun.


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RE: Cow Tipping or keeping subs off balance in the land... - 2/13/2011 6:41:22 AM   
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Status: offline 		Anybody who decided that I needed to be kept sleep deprived would not find me good company. It's like not letting me eat at regular intervals. If you cause my blood sugar to drop, I will not be someone you want to be with. I'm not willing to be punished for a physical reaction that you knew was going to happen.

As far as play, I don't find the 'same old, same old' to be boring, I find it relaxing and arousing to be able to anticipate the good feelings that will come. But then we're into bondage and sex for play, not s & m, so perhaps that's the difference


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RE: Cow Tipping or keeping subs off balance in the land... - 2/13/2011 2:14:49 PM   
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RE: Cow Tipping or keeping subs off balance in the land... - 2/14/2011 6:46:21 AM   
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Well, first off, actual cow tipping is dangerous (and cruel) to the cow, risky to the tipper, and can cost the rancher thousands and thousands of dollars from injuries to his/her herd (just to rebut the idea of literal cow tipping as "fun" ).

As for being kept off balance in the relationship, no thanks.  My life only recently found balance, and I rather enjoy it here.  Intentionally keeping me off balance would risk inviting me back to the dark place that is unhealthy for me.

Playing is a bit different, in that the only thing predictable is that I know I'll be safe. He improvises as he goes, and I'm often blind folded, so I never quite know what my fate will be, other than he's careful to not push me too hard, given some ghosts of the past that he doesn't want to invite in. 

As for sleep deprivation, both my ex owner and my ex husband intentionally deprived me of sleep.  It took me years to develop healthy sleep patterns and get sufficient rest.  Until then, yeah, lack of sleep contributed to emotional instability, constant exhaustion, and some very serious insomnia.  I see it as a bully's method of maintaining control.


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RE: Cow Tipping or keeping subs off balance in the land... - 2/14/2011 9:06:49 AM   
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Status: offline 		The thread header is: "Cow Tipping or keeping subs off balance in the land of Nod". Surely if the subs are already in the "Land of Nod" (Asleep) there is no need to be "Tipping Cows" or anything else. It is easy to tip a sleeping sub, probably out of bed if you want. However if you are one of those literary bastards who must go the whole hog and follow the thread heading to the letter. you can tip a cow (sleeping) by leaning it against the milking shed and just hope the jolly shed doesn't collapse for that racket will surely reduce the next day's milk supply and could wake the sleeping sub and have her in great fear that the world is indeed ending and all her subly sins will come down about her titts. 

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