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RE: Pro Domme designation - 2/14/2011 6:36:07 AM   
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ORIGINAL: igor2003

This argument doesn't hold water.  If a person clicks the "Report User" button there are already options where the person can be reported for inappropriate information, illegal activities, scamming, underage, and vulgarity.  Those options are already in place for anyone wanting to mis-use them.  Adding one more option for not self-designating as a pro-domme would not be any more likely to be mis-used than any of the other options already available.  If someone was going to make a false accusation simply for spite the means are already in place and it simply is not happening.


Actually, this doesn't hold water because yes, people already do inappropriate flagging/reporting on this site. I'm curious as to how you know "it simply is not happening." Do you have access to that information or are you pulling a theory out of thin air because that is what you believe to be true without knowing if it actually is or not? Can you share with us some of this information that you know is simply not happening?

I can actually share information with you as far as having it actually happen that people here do act inappropriately towards other members, you just need to read the journal section of this site. You see tons of entries that blacklist other members of the site which is explicitly against the TOS of this site.  Supposedly all of those members read the TOS and clicked off the little box that they'd follow it when they signed up for a profile here so why aren't they following the rules?

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RE: Pro Domme designation - 2/14/2011 6:38:23 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Nanako

I fail to see the problem here.
People whon don't self designate, but are reported as pro-dommes, would be dealt with accordingly.

That right there is the problem.

Let's say you're a generic member of this site. Let's say you send me a message. Let's say I ignore it, because as the generic member of this site you have not read my profile.

Let's say this makes you angry. So what do you do? You report me as an un-self-designated pro-domme, and I am 'dealt with accordingly'.

Does that have anything to do with whether I'm actually a pro-domme?

No.

Member-flagging is only appropriate when the members can be trusted. I do not trust the members of this site to flag accurately.


Well, crap.  There goes my brilliant idea of threatening to flag all the wimmins of collarme unless they put out for me. 


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RE: Pro Domme designation - 2/14/2011 8:21:25 AM   
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would be nice if Collarme had a profile designation for whiners so I could simply filter them out of my search results ... and I wouldn't have to do any work at all...

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RE: Pro Domme designation - 2/14/2011 8:36:33 AM   
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ORIGINAL: sincitysubm

would be nice if Collarme had a profile designation for Pro Dommes to select so I could simply filter them out of my search results. I never thought it would be so hard to find a lifestyle Domme for a LTR in Vegas....
Would be a hell of a lot easier if I could simplify the search



The dating world will always remain a kind of untamed jungle.

Take heart that craigslist differentiates between dealers and private sellers -- because up front disclosures are important to its clientele. But here the illusion of lifestyle dommes is a huge dangling carrot for newbies. The site managers here would not be enthused to police profiles and thereby drive traffic and female members away.



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RE: Pro Domme designation - 2/14/2011 8:57:25 AM   
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ORIGINAL: VaguelyCurious


quote:

ORIGINAL: Nanako

I fail to see the problem here.
People whon don't self designate, but are reported as pro-dommes, would be dealt with accordingly.

That right there is the problem.

Let's say you're a generic member of this site. Let's say you send me a message. Let's say I ignore it, because as the generic member of this site you have not read my profile.

Let's say this makes you angry. So what do you do? You report me as an un-self-designated pro-domme, and I am 'dealt with accordingly'.


But then a moderator/admin/etc could look at your profile, see that it says nothing about pro-domming, and ignore the complaint.
In any event where someone is clearly a professional, but hasn't ticked the flag. The only moderator action needed would be changing the flag and sending a canned message mentioning that it has been done, and pointing out why, unless someone is persistently abusing the system, nothing beyond that is needed.

Whether someone happens to be professional elsewhere in their life doesn't seem relevant to here. All that matters in this situation is whether or not the person is here as a professional or not. I'm an escort, but I'm here in a personal capacity seeking a relationship, not advertising my services.

Those who are professionals but choose not to write it on their profile? I don't see the problem. Let them stay un-flagged if they want. That's pretty impossible to enforce anyways. But what it will do is burden such people with lots of annoying emails to read through because they're looking for clients and advertising otherwise. Having to deal with the high volume of unwanted mail seems punishment enough >:D

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RE: Pro Domme designation - 2/14/2011 9:03:38 AM   
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Ideally, those who are mature-ish and have a clue will self select.

Why put the onus of selection on already overworked moderators?

people join the site, having presumably read the TOS..

Why should the mods do the selection process for these (supposedly intelligent) adults?

FFS, why dont some of these cry babies take responsibility for THEIR OWN CHOICES?  you dont like the profile? BLOCK it... simple, neh?

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RE: Pro Domme designation - 2/14/2011 9:43:04 AM   
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ORIGINAL: igor2003
You would think that if there have been 124,097,235,682,574,297 people that have already had that brilliant idea then somewhere, some time, some one would actually get bashed upside the head by the proverbial clue-by-four and start to think that maybe...just maybe...it is a problem that needs to be seriously looked into rather than something to be used as a means to ridicule the problems of male subs.  It is very interesting that each time such a thread is started an overwhelming number of responses (usually somewhat derogatory in nature) to the OP come, not from other male subs, but from female dominants, female subs, and male doms...all people that do not normally have to deal with the problem on a day-to-day basis.  But they are all more than ready, willing, and able to come here and trash talk the people that do deal with it.

Just because she exaggerated on the number doesn't mean that the feature would benefit the majority of site users.  Male subs aren't the greater percentage of CM members when looking at the whole.  Which means that you're exactly right.  The issue isn't a problem for most of us.  Just like it isn't a problem for you because I can't filter out men who are married and cheating types.  Since it doesn't affect you, I'm pretty sure that you don't care that CM has no feature to flag those folks.  At the same time, they have just as much right to be here for their purposes as I do for Mine. 

If it was a feature that the majority of site users actually wanted, the site might consider adding it.  Since it is something that would only matter to a minority, I don't blame the site for not going through the additional trouble and work it would create.


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RE: Pro Domme designation - 2/14/2011 9:50:37 AM   
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Lots of pro dominants in LAS VEGAS. Imagine.

Meh. Whine whine whine cheese whine.

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RE: Pro Domme designation - 2/14/2011 9:57:40 AM   
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ORIGINAL: GreedyTop

Ideally, those who are mature-ish and have a clue will self select.

Why put the onus of selection on already overworked moderators?

people join the site, having presumably read the TOS..

Why should the mods do the selection process for these (supposedly intelligent) adults?

FFS, why dont some of these cry babies take responsibility for THEIR OWN CHOICES?  you dont like the profile? BLOCK it... simple, neh?


Because that would take maturity and it is easier to ask others to do the work for them.

These threads crack me up because someone said only sub men are having issues with connecting with Dommes. As if the the rest of who are seeking whatever it is we are seeking have it easy in locating what we want. The difference is we do not ask for designations like: Dom, Asshole Dom, Douchebag Dom, JustNotMyType Dom, etc. We are able to figure it all out ourselves with no help from the site owners.

Here is a huge clue: Many other types here are searching for something. It does not matter what your target audience is, it is incumbent upon YOU to do your own searching and selection.

This is a FREE site. Therefore anything you get here is icing on the cake that is Collarme.

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RE: Pro Domme designation - 2/14/2011 10:03:13 AM   
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ORIGINAL: igor2003

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ORIGINAL: SylvereApLeanan

Yeah, you're only the 124,097,235,682,574,297th person to have that brilliant idea.




You would think that if there have been 124,097,235,682,574,297 people that have already had that brilliant idea then somewhere, some time, some one would actually get bashed upside the head by the proverbial clue-by-four and start to think that maybe...just maybe...it is a problem that needs to be seriously looked into rather than something to be used as a means to ridicule the problems of male subs.
You are leaving out the number of responses to this whine detailing why it probably isn't a good idea.

It is very interesting that each time such a thread is started an overwhelming number of responses (usually somewhat derogatory in nature) to the OP come, not from other male subs, but from female dominants, female subs, and male doms...all people that do not normally have to deal with the problem on a day-to-day basis.  But they are all more than ready, willing, and able to come here and trash talk the people that do deal with it.
I think it is interesting that you think female subs wouldn't have to deal with this. If I were currently looking, I would have to go through the same list of women to find a partner. And since my current search is set to female dominants in the area, I can safely say, it's easy as shit to spot the pros and fakes. But if it is really a problem for you, try going out into the real world. Lots of ladies out there if your willing to put in the time to look.



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RE: Pro Domme designation - 2/14/2011 10:14:12 AM   
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Not true actually, THB... the real ladies run AWAY from the whiners and do-me dudes!!

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RE: Pro Domme designation - 2/14/2011 10:16:04 AM   
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ORIGINAL: LadyHibiscus

Not true actually, THB... the real ladies run AWAY from the whiners and do-me dudes!!


Good point. Maybe I should have added...and not act like an asshat. Actually sweet mollie gave me the best advice when she said to volunteer at stuff. One of the best ways of meeting people that I have ever found.


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RE: Pro Domme designation - 2/14/2011 10:24:04 AM   
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She's right, especially if you work the door, you see everyone! But that means leaving the house and stuff. Shouldn't our perversions be hand delivered in the dark of night?

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RE: Pro Domme designation - 2/14/2011 10:33:55 AM   
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But then a moderator/admin/etc could look at your profile, see that it says nothing about pro-domming, and ignore the complaint. In any event where someone is clearly a professional, but hasn't ticked the flag. The only moderator action needed would be changing the flag and sending a canned message mentioning that it has been done, and pointing out why, unless someone is persistently abusing the system, nothing beyond that is needed.

From your posts, I don't think you know how large this site really is. Last I checked (in response to a thread just like this one), this site gets approximately 500 new members every day. The profile database is enormous, and the staff on the other side likely has about all the work they can handle responding to complaints on profiles that violate TOS, responding to tickets regarding stolen photos, and helping users that are having issues with their profile. What you propose sounds easy peasy, but the implementation of such a system would likely double or even triple the workload of people who are already donating their free time to this site.

I also suspect that you do not understand how vindictive some people can be when rejected. Ask almost any female dominant that has been here for any length of time, and she will tell you that it is not uncommon for males she has rejected or blocked to create a whole new profile simply to send nasty cmails. If they are willing to do that, do you really think they won't click a button and send a false report in the hopes of having the profile flagged or killed? I know that I would not like to be the person who has to slog through a mess of false reports because a couple of them are pros that didn't click the right box. 

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RE: Pro Domme designation - 2/14/2011 11:10:09 AM   
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Thank you WyldHrt for saving me keystrokes. The bottom line is we are talking about a free site. If the work load for the people here increased they'd have to get more people to work, hence paying a salary or possibly farming out things to more and more people where the quality couldn't be monitored. Saying you'd have mods make final decisions on a little thing like a profile self-designation is a very naive and unworkable solution. People would understand that if the bottom line came down to CM charging for the use of their site. Holy cow, then the sparks would fly because it wouldn't be free anymore.

Anyone who can come up with a fair and workable solution to this issue put it forth.
In the meantime the same old things keep getting rehashed with the expectation that magic will occur and poof, the situation will be solved. No one is bashing anyone when they suggest that the best solution so far is to self-select an appropriate partner. It is fair for someone to decide what they want for themselves and it is workable to do the work themselves in order to find this person.

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RE: Pro Domme designation - 2/14/2011 11:19:02 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Nanako

Those who are professionals but choose not to write it on their profile? I don't see the problem. Let them stay un-flagged if they want. That's pretty impossible to enforce anyways. But what it will do is burden such people with lots of annoying emails to read through because they're looking for clients and advertising otherwise. Having to deal with the high volume of unwanted mail seems punishment enough >:D



So what you're saying is that you want some sort of categorization because you can't manage to click away from profiles that don't interested you? You're going to have to read profiles from people who aren't compatible with you in any case. I'd love insta-filters to weed out adult babies people or people into "forced fem," but that doesn't mean that I think it will happen.

I'm fine. I can read.


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RE: Pro Domme designation - 2/14/2011 1:26:41 PM   
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You could make a drinking game out of hitting refresh on the main page for every profile you dislike.

You also might want to have somebody nearby to revive you.


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RE: Pro Domme designation - 2/15/2011 3:44:08 AM   
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It is very interesting that each time such a thread is started an overwhelming number of responses (usually somewhat derogatory in nature) to the OP come, not from other male subs, but from female dominants, female subs, and male doms...all people that do not normally have to deal with the problem on a day-to-day basis.  But they are all more than ready, willing, and able to come here and trash talk the people that do deal with it.


We submissive females don't have the sense of entitlement needed to constantly whine about all the married cheating "drop to your knees bitch" insta Doms. I'm adult enough to realize that this is the internet and I have the ability to block and delete.

I demand a separate category for men who wish to cheat on their wives!

Seriously, pro Dommes are upfront almost immediately. I spent months of correspondence and 5 hours in real life with a man before he revealed he was married (and not poly).


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RE: Pro Domme designation - 2/15/2011 5:26:31 AM   
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Most dominant and submissive females get messages from men who A) haven't read our profiles B) have, but don't care a whit that there's no match C) don't care what's on our profile because they just know they're the one for us.  Depending on my mood I A) ignore, delete and block or B) my smartass side comes out.  Easy peasy. 

I'm a big girl now and can decide all on my own whether I wish to respond or not.  Don't need a designation to tell me someone's not right for *me*.  Don't need a moderator to decide that someone's not right for *me* either.  

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RE: Pro Domme designation - 2/15/2011 6:09:21 AM   
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ORIGINAL: LadyHibiscus

Lots of pro dominants in LAS VEGAS. Imagine.

Meh. Whine whine whine cheese whine.


Duh, yeah most people in Vegas whine that there aren't enough pros in Vegas, that you can get everything but not dommes....

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