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questions about cuckolding in a relationship - 10/5/2004 9:01:45 AM   
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do women tend to prefer a man similar to the one they have at home? or do they want something different, eg. if she has a submissive at home does she want someone dominant?
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RE: questions about cuckolding in a relationship - 10/5/2004 9:09:42 AM   
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tis too vague of a question. There are a myriad of variables in a cuckholded relationship, and even more variety amongst individual dommes.

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RE: questions about cuckolding in a relationship - 10/6/2004 2:27:14 AM   
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As a cuckoldress (part of My lifestyle) and an AM of a cuckold group, I can answer some of this. In a true cuckold relationship. the male is subservient to the Dominant Female. Perhaps the couple is married, or perhaps not. The cuckold not only submits to the fact that his cuckoldress will have lovers, he is aroused by the fact that She has other lovers. Often these lovers are referred to as "bulls". Generally speaking, they are not sub males. They are straight Dominant males engaging in sexual acts with the cuck present or aware of the activity. The cuck often is required to prepare the "bull" male as well as his cuckoldress orally. The cucks biggest dream is the cream pie clean-up. This is the oral cleansing of his Lady's vagina or anus, i.e. drinking the "bulls" seed. Of course, in this day of necessary "safe sex" I always laugh and say, "but where is the cream pie?" Sometimes it is saved in a condom and the cuckold is made to drink it. A cuck will also prepare his Lady for an evening out. He must wait patiently for his Lady to arrive home, and then clean or care for Her after Her evening of activity. What I am describing here is the purest form of cuckoldry. So the answer to your question would be NO. The cuckoldress does not engage in sexual activity with another sub. She is enjoying affairs with straight lovers, even though these lovers often are also involved in BDSM as the "bulls" and thus are very aware of the Lady's lifestyle and the fact that she is a Dominant Female in a cuckold relationship. As a final note, the cuck is rarely if ever allowed to penetrate His Lady. he is limited to strict oral servitude.

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RE: questions about cuckolding in a relationship - 10/6/2004 6:05:03 AM   
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WOW!! very interesting. Thank you Ma'am for a
very informative answer.
This girl did not understand exactly how it worked.

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RE: questions about cuckolding in a relationship - 10/6/2004 9:52:05 AM   
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I wanted to take some time to think on this topic before posting. So here goes. I disagree a with Goddess Dusty Gold's view of cuckholding. Not that it is practiced that way, it is. I know of several who engage in that form of cuckolding. However it is my belief, * yours may vary* that there are more commonplace and different practices of cuckholding then the one given. First the definition:


cuck·old ( P ) Pronunciation Key (kkld, kk-)
n.
A man married to an unfaithful wife.

tr.v. cuck·old·ed, cuck·old·ing, cuck·olds
To make a cuckold of.


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[Middle English cokewald, from Anglo-Norman *cucuald, from cucu, the cuckoo, from Vulgar Latin *cucclus, from Latin cuclus.]
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Word History: The allusion to the cuckoo on which the word cuckold is based may not be appreciated by those unfamiliar with the nesting habits of certain varieties of this bird. The female of some Old World cuckoos lays its eggs in the nests of other birds, leaving them to be cared for by the resident nesters. This parasitic tendency has given the female bird a figurative reputation for unfaithfulness as well. Hence in Old French we find the word cucuault, composed of cocu, “cuckoo, cuckold,” and the pejorative suffix -ald and used to designate a husband whose wife has wandered afield like the female cuckoo. An earlier assumed form of the Old French word was borrowed into Middle English by way of Anglo-Norman. Middle English cokewold, the ancestor of Modern English cuckold, is first recorded in a work written around 1250.


ok.. now that we got the definition out of the way.. here are my thoughts and response to Goddess Dusty Rose.

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In a true cuckold relationship. the male is subservient to the Dominant Female. Perhaps the couple is married, or perhaps not. The cuckold not only submits to the fact that his cuckoldress will have lovers, he is aroused by the fact that She has other lovers.


In many cases the male is NOT subservient to the female. In Poly relationships, in Dom/Domme relationships, and in open marriages, that are unilateral. By definition any man married to an wife that is not monogamous is cuckolded. Hence I can't embrace this view. Furthermore, for many it has nothing to do with arousal by the thought of her with other lovers, it may be their inability to perform, or a humiliation aspect. My paraplegic friends wife has a lover but is very much in love with her husbans and neither is submissive. But he is unable to satisfy her in the way she needs so they have an "friend" who takes care of things.. A mistress friend of mine who is married to a Vanilla Husband, has a full time submissive lover that she spends 3 nights a week with, In this case it is the Non submissive partner that is cuckholded.

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Often these lovers are referred to as "bulls". Generally speaking, they are not sub males. They are straight Dominant males engaging in sexual acts with the cuck present or aware of the activity. The cuck often is required to prepare the "bull" male as well as his cuckoldress orally. The cucks biggest dream is the cream pie clean-up. This is the oral cleansing of his Lady's vagina or anus, i.e. drinking the "bulls" seed.


Ok. I personally have issues with the whole "bull" mentality, as a Naturally dominant woman it goes against every fiber of my being to be with a "dominant male". I have long felt this is a fantasy ideology put forth by submissive men that woman have felt some sort of obligation to want. Many cucks that I have know use the act of being cuckolded as a means for making thier bisexual desires appear non-consentual so as to eliminate have to face the reality of the acts they are performing. However on the flipside. Many woman enjoy seeing such acts and many truly submissive males who have no desire whatsoever to interact with other males will do so solely to please thier Mistress. Furthermore, Many many cuckolds are never present when their Mistress or Wife is with another male.


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A cuck will also prepare his Lady for an evening out. He must wait patiently for his Lady to arrive home, and then clean or care for Her after Her evening of activity. What I am describing here is the purest form of cuckoldry. So the answer to your question would be NO. The cuckoldress does not engage in sexual activity with another sub. She is enjoying affairs with straight lovers, even though these lovers often are also involved in BDSM as the "bulls" and thus are very aware of the Lady's lifestyle and the fact that she is a Dominant Female in a cuckold relationship. As a final note, the cuck is rarely if ever allowed to penetrate His Lady. he is limited to strict oral servitude.


Again, I disagree, to the whole concept of thier being a "pure" form of anything. A great many of Mistress's have sexual relationships with the person who is being cuckolded, and particular with todays health standards a great many have a say in who and what is done. Furthermore I do not limit my definition of sexual contact to penetration.


Ok.. now that I've responded to Goddess Dusty Rose, here is a bit about my veiws of cuckholding. For me personally it is necessary to have a loving relatonship with my primary submissive, that does not however imply that their will always be monogamy. I have vanilla lovers ( that are by no means "bulls") that I may welcome into my bed from time to time. However only as a guest, and they would never replace my primary. These are generally people that I have a long history with and I would expect my submissive to understand and not feel his place was threatened by this visitor. It may involve me going to visit them, for a long weekend, or such.

I may have more than one submissive, however one would be my primary and I may want to interact with both sexually, or have them interact with each other.

I have friends within the scene who are couples of every combination that one can think of, and at times we may party and play together in manners that involve one or both of us sexually interacting with others. I may or may not but my sub in chasity, often when doing so, it is to tease and torment him until he begs for release or begs to do the unthinkable.

For me personally.. and again.. your views may differ. I can not fathom having a commited relationship to anyone who was incapable of being a lover to me in a full range of positions. How and when those positions and the frequency of them are at my sole discretion, but they will always have the power to withhold consent.

I could go on.. but this is lengthy enough for now.

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RE: questions about cuckolding in a relationship - 10/10/2004 10:59:01 PM   
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ORIGINAL: MaitresseEden


Ok. I personally have issues with the whole "bull" mentality, as a Naturally dominant woman it goes against every fiber of my being to be with a "dominant male".


I do not like the term bulls Myself, and and should not have said Dominant Male. I should have said equal partners in a bedroom relationship, be it a one night stand (with which I am not comfortable) or a regular lover, "vanilla" or in the lifestyle.

You are certainly correct, Ms. Eden, and I imagine W/we can take many terms which have been defined in the dictionary and are now used and
re-aligned in the BDSM lifestyle. I know many cuckolds, and, in the context of this lifestyle, this is what they desire, and most often, how the role is played out. My humble opinion from My experience: In the context of this lifestyle, I would say that a husband who allows his wife to "swing" or swings himself, is not a cuckold in this lifestyle. A relationship (marital or not) wherein there may be another reason for outside sexual activity, outside of the context of the BDSM lifestyle, is not a cuckold.
Since this is a BDSM site, I answered to the best of My ability, with My knowledge and experience, the main basis upon which a cuckold relationship would exist and within what parameters. "Bulls", I agree, is a term that the cucks themselves have developed, perhaps, for the exact reasons you state. And it makes the cucks feel even more submissive to be subservient or lower than these male lovers. And, yes, humiliation is a very big part of a D/s cuckold relationship. It is an important aspect of being cuckolded. There is no getting around the fact that there are cuckolds out there who are very disappointed if and when their Ladies are not involved with an outside lover or lovers. I also agree that the biggest fear of any cuckold is that his Lady will leave him for another.
I used the term "purest form" as this is the actual basis for most cuckold relationships. However, this does not mean that each couple or sub with a Mistress or MistressWife, does not work out or allow their own comfort level of rules evolve which will work best for them. In fact that is why I used that term. This allows for flexibility with each relationship.
And I do apologize for using the term "Dominant Male" as I also have no desire to have sexual relations with a "Dominant Male" other than as equals in the bedroom.


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RE: questions about cuckolding in a relationship - 2/25/2005 4:05:06 PM   
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ORIGINAL: GoddessDustyGold

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ORIGINAL: MaitresseEden


Ok. I personally have issues with the whole "bull" mentality, as a Naturally dominant woman it goes against every fiber of my being to be with a "dominant male".


I do not like the term bulls Myself, and and should not have said Dominant Male. I should have said equal partners in a bedroom relationship, be it a one night stand (with which I am not comfortable) or a regular lover, "vanilla" or in the lifestyle.

You are certainly correct, Ms. Eden, and I imagine W/we can take many terms which have been defined in the dictionary and are now used and
re-aligned in the BDSM lifestyle. I know many cuckolds, and, in the context of this lifestyle, this is what they desire, and most often, how the role is played out. My humble opinion from My experience: In the context of this lifestyle, I would say that a husband who allows his wife to "swing" or swings himself, is not a cuckold in this lifestyle. A relationship (marital or not) wherein there may be another reason for outside sexual activity, outside of the context of the BDSM lifestyle, is not a cuckold.


Well, I can honestly say, without any deference to either of the posters...as a cuckold (sans the cuckoldress)...I'll simply agree with whichever of the two of you wants to move in with me and make my life a living hell.

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RE: questions about cuckolding in a relationship - 2/25/2005 5:16:21 PM   
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Is there a term for female subs that are "forced" to watch their sig. other "get it on" with another female?
Just curious.
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RE: questions about cuckolding in a relationship - 2/26/2005 4:29:38 PM   
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ORIGINAL: MzBerlin

Is there a term for female subs that are "forced" to watch their sig. other "get it on" with another female?
Just curious.
Thanks, y'all!!
Berlin


"Divorcee" springs to mind, but for an odd quirk of the english language there doesnt seem to be a term for a female cuckhold.

Perhaps it goes back to the early days. BP (Before THE Pill) when female adultery was far more scandalous and more dangerous. While a philandering man, was just being 'one of the guys'.

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RE: questions about cuckolding in a relationship - 2/27/2008 7:09:43 AM   
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I have read the threats on cuckold  here and have found them very intresting. I injoyed reading what Goddes Dusty Gold' has had to say here, and that She belongs to a group of cuckoldress. This has raised a qustain concernig the history of cuckolding where a man being found to have an unfaithful wife while he was gone in battle ect. The villagers would put a helment with horns on his head and pariad him through the village to humiliat him. There are some siuts on the web for buying Vikin Helments . Have any of you used this helment, or thought of locking anything like this on your cuck at parties, sences ect. to pariade his stutus in your relationship? It would be a humbling exspiance for the cuch to be locked into a Viken helment and used as you saw fit, but  ( i'm sure you could find some interisting uses fo those horns ).  As pionted out in these threads, himanulation is soppost to be a big part of the cuck's experiance, so it only seems fitting.  I am not what most people would call here a cuck. ( not being into anything that ivolves man ) But,... i do like the Total Power Exchance She would have to be a very spesisl woman to hold that much T P E over her man. I have read  Goddess Dusty Gold's profile on collarme ,... I do hope you don't mind me saying, . . .  I was greatly inpressed !  
                                                                                                                                                                                  
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ORIGINAL: GoddessDustyGold

As a cuckoldress (part of My lifestyle) and an AM of a cuckold group, I can answer some of this. In a true cuckold relationship. the male is subservient to the Dominant Female. Perhaps the couple is married, or perhaps not. The cuckold not only submits to the fact that his cuckoldress will have lovers, he is aroused by the fact that She has other lovers. Often these lovers are referred to as "bulls". Generally speaking, they are not sub males. They are straight Dominant males engaging in sexual acts with the cuck present or aware of the activity. The cuck often is required to prepare the "bull" male as well as his cuckoldress orally. The cucks biggest dream is the cream pie clean-up. This is the oral cleansing of his Lady's vagina or anus, i.e. drinking the "bulls" seed. Of course, in this day of necessary "safe sex" I always laugh and say, "but where is the cream pie?" Sometimes it is saved in a condom and the cuckold is made to drink it. A cuck will also prepare his Lady for an evening out. He must wait patiently for his Lady to arrive home, and then clean or care for Her after Her evening of activity. What I am describing here is the purest form of cuckoldry. So the answer to your question would be NO. The cuckoldress does not engage in sexual activity with another sub. She is enjoying affairs with straight lovers, even though these lovers often are also involved in BDSM as the "bulls" and thus are very aware of the Lady's lifestyle and the fact that she is a Dominant Female in a cuckold relationship. As a final note, the cuck is rarely if ever allowed to penetrate His Lady. he is limited to strict oral servitude.


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RE: questions about cuckolding in a relationship - 2/27/2008 7:39:37 AM   
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Thank You very much for the explanation of this very "taboo" subject for many of us yet so intriguing and fascinating!! i had been involved with a Mistress in the past but only on friendly terms. She was and still is in a loving relationship with Her cuckold partner. i was tempted to join Her stable of subs and slaves, but the very thought of them being bi and having a loving relationship together had triggered me the fact that i had no room between them.. i am not used to such relationships and have never understood of how they work.

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RE: questions about cuckolding in a relationship - 2/27/2008 10:54:39 AM   
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I forgot to hit spill check, sorry

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