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RE: Sexuality - 5/5/2006 2:58:19 AM   
Areflectionofyou


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exactly agirl.  It has more to do with fulfillment of the moment rather than a actual sexual preference.  People need to move past these labels!



...but, but, I just bought this new Brother labelmaker, I mean laminated and everything and you want to move past labels???

Dammit.

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BTW Labels can both be limiting as well as defining...it should provide certain markers which we can expand from...unfortunately most use it as shorthand and just go with stereotypes...

My label "asshole"

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RE: Sexuality - 5/5/2006 3:02:52 AM   
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RE: Sexuality - 5/5/2006 3:30:59 AM   
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RE: Sexuality - 5/5/2006 3:37:37 AM   
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ORIGINAL: agirl
..because someone can have *sex* with the opposite gender and not be bisexual or gay.........taking part in sexual acts doesn't define your sexuality....either in vanilla or bdsm.

I'm pretty sure if you're putting your penis in and out of another guy's ass, you're gay.  Same goes with taking turns licking pussy and being licked.  Sorry... but if sexuality isn't sexual, I need to get my dictionary checked.

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RE: Sexuality - 5/5/2006 5:39:31 AM   
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I'm pretty sure if you're putting your penis in and out of another guy's ass, you're gay.  Same goes with taking turns licking pussy and being licked.  Sorry... but if sexuality isn't sexual, I need to get my dictionary checked.

Actions do not equate to orientation.

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RE: Sexuality - 5/5/2006 6:51:03 AM   
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ORIGINAL: LuckyAlbatross

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I'm pretty sure if you're putting your penis in and out of another guy's ass, you're gay.  Same goes with taking turns licking pussy and being licked.  Sorry... but if sexuality isn't sexual, I need to get my dictionary checked.

Actions do not equate to orientation.


I have to agree with Canadian Guy here (although I wouldn't have phrased it so crassly.)
If actions don't equal orientation, doesn't that equate to hypocrisy, or at the very minimum, delusion or denial? I personally believe that our actions most definitely do define who and what we are. I can sit all fucking day and say I'm a non-smoker, but my actions of lighting a cigarette and puffing away prove otherwise. I can say all day that I'm as skinny as Barbie, but my size 16 jeans prove otherwise. I can sit and say all day long that I'm straight, but when I'm intimate with the same sex, it proves otherwise.
If having sex with both males and females does not fulfill the definition of bisexual, exactly which definition are we using?

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RE: Sexuality - 5/5/2006 7:06:49 AM   
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If actions don't equal orientation, doesn't that equate to hypocrisy, or at the very minimum, delusion or denial?

How?  If the person I am having sex with is told beforehand "I don't find you attractive sexually and am not at all aroused or desiring to do this, but am doing so because I have been told to do so and am serving as required" then it's not hypocritical at all.

And, for the record, I've done that with people, both males and females. 

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If having sex with both males and females does not fulfill the definition of bisexual, exactly which definition are we using?

The definition that says orientation is defined by what one is attracted to and desires- not what one actually DOES. 

A virgin can still be a homosexual or a heterosexual or a bisexual.  A person who has had sex with 40 men and 0 women can still be a bisexual.

Performing service is performing service.  Serving a man his dinner does not make a woman heterosexual.  Serving a man by giving him a blow job does not make a woman heterosexual or bisexual either- it makes them a servant.



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RE: Sexuality - 5/5/2006 7:07:45 AM   
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I do indeed; I want a third section added just for me...omnisexual...*toddles off to start making the placards for picketing with*


My sister used to say i was trysexual, i'd try anything once, sometimes twice if i did not like it the first time, just to be sure i was doing it right.

Got any extra poster board for those signs?

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RE: Sexuality - 5/5/2006 11:39:11 AM   
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...the person I am having sex with is told beforehand "I don't find you attractive sexually and am not at all aroused or desiring to do this..."
I've done that with people, both males and females. 

And they still slept with you? 

I see what you mean though, when you say that a virgin can be bisexual.  I agree with you.  I'm not so sure about someone who has sex with people of the same gender possibly being straight, though.

Even if that was the case, do we need a profile option that says "if I'm forced to have sex with another guy, then I'm submissive in that situation"?

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RE: Sexuality - 5/5/2006 11:44:44 AM   
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And they still slept with you? 

Absolutely- using someone, especially when you know they don't want/like it, can be pretty hot. 

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Even if that was the case, do we need a profile option that says "if I'm forced to have sex with another guy, then I'm submissive in that situation"?

Nope.  Like I said in my first response, there's too many sub/sex variations to put an option for all of them.  That's what the open part of the profile is for.

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RE: Sexuality - 5/5/2006 12:12:13 PM   
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ORIGINAL: agirl
..because someone can have *sex* with the opposite gender and not be bisexual or gay.........taking part in sexual acts doesn't define your sexuality....either in vanilla or bdsm.
agirl 
 
 
 I must be slow but if consensual sexual acts with other people don't define your sexuality than what does? If someone was turned off by members of their own sex, they wouldnt be having sex with that person right? So the opposite would be if someone was attracted to members of their own sex they would be either gay/lesbian or bisexual. Or what am I missing here?

Yes. What you are missing is that sex is an act . If you ordered a straight male slave to have sex with a male Master, it would merely be him submitting to you. It wouldn't make him a homosexual, it would be a sexual act. The OP didn't mention being turned on or off by the same gender, he said he *accepted the experience*.  It doesn't make him either bi or gay.





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RE: Sexuality - 5/5/2006 12:16:54 PM   
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ORIGINAL: CanadianGuy

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ORIGINAL: agirl
..because someone can have *sex* with the opposite gender and not be bisexual or gay.........taking part in sexual acts doesn't define your sexuality....either in vanilla or bdsm.

I'm pretty sure if you're putting your penis in and out of another guy's ass, you're gay.  Same goes with taking turns licking pussy and being licked.  Sorry... but if sexuality isn't sexual, I need to get my dictionary checked.


You can be taken anally and not be gay......I could ( I haven't and don't desire to) have sex with a female ...it would merely be a *same gender sexual act* ..would not make me gay.

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RE: Sexuality - 5/5/2006 12:22:09 PM   
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Status: offline 		Well, brokenmaleslave, to me, BDSM has nothing to do with sex.... i am sure that there are others out there who may feel differently, and thats OK too...

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RE: Sexuality - 5/5/2006 1:19:46 PM   
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ORIGINAL: agirl

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..because someone can have *sex* with the opposite gender and not be bisexual or gay.........taking part in sexual acts doesn't define your sexuality....either in vanilla or bdsm.
agirl 
 
 
 I must be slow but if consensual sexual acts with other people don't define your sexuality than what does? If someone was turned off by members of their own sex, they wouldnt be having sex with that person right? So the opposite would be if someone was attracted to members of their own sex they would be either gay/lesbian or bisexual. Or what am I missing here?

Yes. What you are missing is that sex is an act . If you ordered a straight male slave to have sex with a male Master, it would merely be him submitting to you. It wouldn't make him a homosexual, it would be a sexual act. The OP didn't mention being turned on or off by the same gender, he said he *accepted the experience*.  It doesn't make him either bi or gay.
 

I undestand what you are saying. However, in the real world no straigt guy is going to have any kind of sex with another man. Period. The mere suggestion could get someone punched in the nose. Straight males are deathly afraid of the act and label. If someone is doing it they are 20% bi or gay, or 40% etc. They are not straight.
Women on the other hand (especiually drunk college girls) will kiss, make out and feel each other up a bit. Sadly half of the time this is for guys thrills that they feel they are expected to do.

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RE: Sexuality - 5/5/2006 1:23:51 PM   
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I undestand what you are saying. However, in the real world no straigt guy is going to have any kind of sex with another man. Period. The mere suggestion could get someone punched in the nose. Straight males are deathly afraid of the act and label.

OK not sure what "real world" you live in, you're wrong in your universal assumption there.

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RE: Sexuality - 5/5/2006 1:35:29 PM   
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RE: Sexuality - 5/5/2006 1:40:06 PM   
littlemissub


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Status: offline 		Because he got fucked by a male Dom does not make him gay.  he may not have enjoyed it.  What he did enjoy and the reason he went with it was because he enjoys being dominated, by men and women both.  He is a sub.  A dog could have dominated him and his nature would have allowed him to enjoy it.  That particular Dom chose to show his dominance in a sexual manner.  But as we all know, dominance and submission does not always have to be sexual.  If I chose to submit to a woman, that does not make me a lesbian.  I purely get off on my submission.

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RE: Sexuality - 5/5/2006 1:42:53 PM   
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ORIGINAL: MsMacComb

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ORIGINAL: agirl

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ORIGINAL: MsMacComb

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ORIGINAL: agirl
..because someone can have *sex* with the opposite gender and not be bisexual or gay.........taking part in sexual acts doesn't define your sexuality....either in vanilla or bdsm.
agirl 
 
 
 I must be slow but if consensual sexual acts with other people don't define your sexuality than what does? If someone was turned off by members of their own sex, they wouldnt be having sex with that person right? So the opposite would be if someone was attracted to members of their own sex they would be either gay/lesbian or bisexual. Or what am I missing here?

Yes. What you are missing is that sex is an act . If you ordered a straight male slave to have sex with a male Master, it would merely be him submitting to you. It wouldn't make him a homosexual, it would be a sexual act. The OP didn't mention being turned on or off by the same gender, he said he *accepted the experience*.  It doesn't make him either bi or gay.
 

I undestand what you are saying. However, in the real world no straigt guy is going to have any kind of sex with another man. Period. The mere suggestion could get someone punched in the nose. Straight males are deathly afraid of the act and label. If someone is doing it they are 20% bi or gay, or 40% etc. They are not straight.
Women on the other hand (especiually drunk college girls) will kiss, make out and feel each other up a bit. Sadly half of the time this is for guys thrills that they feel they are expected to do.


You can't KNOW who is straight and who isn't unless they divulge their desires to you.
Throughout history, men have had sex with other men ......and not been homosexual......

What are you basing your opinions ON??

What acts people do, or do not do, do not define their sexuality. Full stop.

You may have your opinion on the *amount of gayness* someone has to take part in a *same gender sexual act* but it isn't scientific.
 
It really isn't beyond the realms of possibility for open minded, curious people to be open to trying same gender sex. I don't *desire it , but I'm curious as to what it would be like.

It perfectly possible to have sex with the same gender as an experience...it really is not true at all that all straight guys are repulsed by this..nor females.

Regards, agirl

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RE: Sexuality - 5/5/2006 1:43:39 PM   
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OK not sure what "real world" you live in, you're wrong in your universal assumption there.
 

Evidence?

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RE: Sexuality - 5/5/2006 1:45:27 PM   
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