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RE: Protesters hit by hail of gunfire in Libya march - 2/28/2011 7:43:34 AM   
rulemylife


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Reagan was just whispering in Gaddafis ear

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You guys are arguing about whether Reagan made a statement about wanting Khadaffi out of office. I'd say a 500# bomb dropped on your house is a statement neh?



Too bad he didn't whisper louder.

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RE: Protesters hit by hail of gunfire in Libya march - 2/28/2011 7:55:36 AM   
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RE: Protesters hit by hail of gunfire in Libya march - 2/28/2011 8:02:14 AM   
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Status: offline 		I see that several planes violated Libyan airspace in order to retrieve some of their nationals.

I assume this will be looked on akin to an unwarranted invasion by some, or perhaps likened to an illegal union strike in wisconsin by some; a breaking of a contract without regard to who is actually honoring it and for what reasons.

I understand the insurgents, rebels, whatever perjorative is acceptable these days have gained control of most of the oil sources, a great deal of countryside and are fixin to whup a little ass in Moe's hometown today.

And it's only been three weeks, no nukes dropped by radical muslim islamist brotherhoods or rogue iraqi clerisy....no pan-islamic forces siezing control...although there was some anecdotal stories on NPR of egyptians sending medicine and foodstuffs from a grassroots level to the libyan insurrectionists.   

By god, this might work.  How's the rest of the boys doin over there? With the bloodbath in Libya some of the other peoples struggle in the mideast have sort of left focus.  

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RE: Protesters hit by hail of gunfire in Libya march - 2/28/2011 8:11:30 AM   
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Reagan was just whispering in Gaddafis ear


What, like OBL whispered in Bush's?
Strange that there was such a shitfit about the Al Queda urban renewal programme in 2001 if it was nothing more serious than a wet willy...

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RE: Protesters hit by hail of gunfire in Libya march - 2/28/2011 1:34:51 PM   
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By god, this might work.  How's the rest of the boys doin over there? With the bloodbath in Libya some of the other peoples struggle in the mideast have sort of left focus.  


At the risk of being accused of being partisan (even though I really am), I'm wondering where all the freedom-loving conservative voices are?

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RE: Protesters hit by hail of gunfire in Libya march - 2/28/2011 3:01:23 PM   
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Status: offline 		This is not aimed at any one person or point of view. But while people quibble here, it looks like Ghaddafi's Air Force is still bombing and strafing Libyan civilians. Ghaddafi forces are consolidating their grip on Tripoli and it looks like shaping up for an all out war for Tripoli.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/feb/28/libya-anti-gaddafi-rebels-gather

The Libyan people desperately need material help in their struggle to rid themselves of a monster - there's a lot the West could do to help. Consider the difference between Western policy in Libya and Iraq and Israel.

Who's a hypocrite now? Any one out there still unable to understand why the West isn't flavour of the month in the Arab world?

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RE: Protesters hit by hail of gunfire in Libya march - 2/28/2011 3:22:41 PM   
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Status: offline 		tweakabelle, IF the west does anything more than humanitarian aid, it would be taken as a sign of imperialist aggression.

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Pro-Gadhafi forces fight rebels in 2 cities
AP – 6 mins ago

TRIPOLI, Libya – International pressure on Moammar Gadhafi to end a crackdown on opponents escalated Monday as his loyalists fought rebels holding the two cities closest to the capital and his warplanes bombed an ammunition depot in the east. The U.S. moved naval and air forces closer to Libya and said all options were open, including patrols of the North African nation's skies to protect its citizens from their ruler. source



We cant put troops on the ground, hell we are pushing our limits with troops in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Besides, we already learned what kind of mess we cause when we "get rid of" an oppressive ruler.

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RE: Protesters hit by hail of gunfire in Libya march - 2/28/2011 3:22:58 PM   
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This moron still think that the (people) love him????
sorry al gadafi but i have to ask you    What The Front door are you thinking?????



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RE: Protesters hit by hail of gunfire in Libya march - 2/28/2011 3:35:42 PM   
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tweakabelle, IF the west does anything more than humanitarian aid, it would be taken as a sign of imperialist aggression.

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Pro-Gadhafi forces fight rebels in 2 cities
AP – 6 mins ago

TRIPOLI, Libya – International pressure on Moammar Gadhafi to end a crackdown on opponents escalated Monday as his loyalists fought rebels holding the two cities closest to the capital and his warplanes bombed an ammunition depot in the east. The U.S. moved naval and air forces closer to Libya and said all options were open, including patrols of the North African nation's skies to protect its citizens from their ruler. source



We cant put troops on the ground, hell we are pushing our limits with troops in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Besides, we already learned what kind of mess we cause when we "get rid of" an oppressive ruler.


Agreed. The opposition is asking for supplies, not boots on the ground. I would hope supplying them would be an international effort.

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RE: Protesters hit by hail of gunfire in Libya march - 2/28/2011 7:47:27 PM   
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ORIGINAL: tweakabelle

This is not aimed at any one person or point of view. But while people quibble here, it looks like Ghaddafi's Air Force is still bombing and strafing Libyan civilians. Ghaddafi forces are consolidating their grip on Tripoli and it looks like shaping up for an all out war for Tripoli.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/feb/28/libya-anti-gaddafi-rebels-gather

The Libyan people desperately need material help in their struggle to rid themselves of a monster - there's a lot the West could do to help. Consider the difference between Western policy in Libya and Iraq and Israel.

Who's a hypocrite now? Any one out there still unable to understand why the West isn't flavour of the month in the Arab world?


That was what I was trying to say.

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RE: Protesters hit by hail of gunfire in Libya march - 2/28/2011 10:36:03 PM   
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ORIGINAL: rulemylife

At the risk of being accused of being partisan (even though I really am), I'm wondering where all the freedom-loving conservative voices are?



Bored with your shit, perhaps?


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RE: Protesters hit by hail of gunfire in Libya march - 2/28/2011 10:58:54 PM   
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tweakabelle, IF the west does anything more than humanitarian aid, it would be taken as a sign of imperialist aggression.

We cant put troops on the ground, hell we are pushing our limits with troops in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Besides, we already learned what kind of mess we cause when we "get rid of" an oppressive ruler.


Absolutely. I agree with you. Anything like an invasion is out of the question.

But there are an awful lot of options between invasion and doing nothing. And it would be criminal for us to do nothing while Libyans are being massacred by a monster for daring to demand freedom and human rights.

The Libyans are telling us what they need from us. It's up to us to respond positively. There is simply no reason why we can't.

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RE: Protesters hit by hail of gunfire in Libya march - 3/1/2011 3:00:26 AM   
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Status: offline 		Let those who created Gaddafi, bring him down, although I suspect when he finally does come down, or shoots himself there will be no escaping to foreign lands, for the people he is bombing will rip him and his family apart. Gaddafi, is not just fighting for continued control, he is fighting for his life !

As to what the west can do, if it cares, is the least, supplies as asked for and nothing else, keep the military out of the situation.


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RE: Protesters hit by hail of gunfire in Libya march - 3/1/2011 6:58:47 AM   
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At the risk of being accused of being partisan (even though I really am), I'm wondering where all the freedom-loving conservative voices are?



Bored with your shit, perhaps?



I don't Richie, maybe.

But why are we not hearing you supporting these uprisings after I have listened to you for years tell me how we "liberated" Iraq?

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RE: Protesters hit by hail of gunfire in Libya march - 3/1/2011 7:04:11 AM   
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ORIGINAL: tweakabelle

This is not aimed at any one person or point of view. But while people quibble here, it looks like Ghaddafi's Air Force is still bombing and strafing Libyan civilians. Ghaddafi forces are consolidating their grip on Tripoli and it looks like shaping up for an all out war for Tripoli.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/feb/28/libya-anti-gaddafi-rebels-gather

The Libyan people desperately need material help in their struggle to rid themselves of a monster - there's a lot the West could do to help. Consider the difference between Western policy in Libya and Iraq and Israel.

Who's a hypocrite now? Any one out there still unable to understand why the West isn't flavour of the month in the Arab world?


Well we aren't invading anybody or sticking our nose in anybody's business. Which is what we are usually accused of. We don't have our soldier over there to get shot at or to return fire ( no Mogadishu this time). We are sending our love and support and trying to talk lemur kadhafey into stepping down.

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RE: Protesters hit by hail of gunfire in Libya march - 3/1/2011 7:14:28 AM   
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But why are we not hearing you supporting these uprisings after I have listened to you for years tell me how we "liberated" Iraq?




Either you are just making shit up, RML, or you seriously need to make an appointment with a neurologist. Your claim above has no relation to my position on Iraq, and I have already commented in this thread, twice, about Kuhdaffy getting killed as a good outcome. Perhaps you were too busy asking about my visits to theme parks, to actually read what I said?



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RE: Protesters hit by hail of gunfire in Libya march - 3/1/2011 8:01:01 AM   
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Status: offline 		"Uprisings" is a plural, sweetie: it might have escaped your notice, but Libya isn't the only middle eastern country where this sort of thing has been going on in the last few weeks. What was your line on Mubarak fleeing Egypt?

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RE: Protesters hit by hail of gunfire in Libya march - 3/1/2011 8:04:40 AM   
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But why are we not hearing you supporting these uprisings after I have listened to you for years tell me how we "liberated" Iraq?




Either you are just making shit up, RML, or you seriously need to make an appointment with a neurologist. Your claim above has no relation to my position on Iraq, and I have already commented in this thread, twice, about Kuhdaffy getting killed as a good outcome. Perhaps you were too busy asking about my visits to theme parks, to actually read what I said?





Yes, I looked back through the thread and you did, my mistake.

But what's this about theme parks, or did I forget something else?

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RE: Protesters hit by hail of gunfire in Libya march - 3/1/2011 8:05:55 AM   
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Is this true?  I also heard another couple of generals have defected to the rebel forces.

Not among Darth Vader's vast majority of halcyonic days of yore, wot?


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RE: Protesters hit by hail of gunfire in Libya march - 3/1/2011 8:07:38 AM   
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Status: offline 		Not one I'd heard, but why not? If he didn't still have some supporters he'd be doing a Mussolini even as we speak...

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