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BurntKitty -> RE: Don't call me "Master" (3/1/2011 6:33:51 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: sirsholly quote: I understand its a submissive jesture and a wish to show respect, but if I have never looked down at you with a fist full of your hair I am NOT your master! is it just me? It has already been said in this thread, but this happens to submissives as well...addressed by a dominant as Sub, Slut, Girl, etc. Speaking only for myself...those terms float like a box of rocks. [8\|] I'll agree with this also. It's as annoying as being referred to in the 3rd person: "How is the girl tonight?" Ugh...

MsLadySue -> RE: Don't call me "Master" (3/1/2011 7:03:17 PM)
I totally understand your pet peeve. I dislike someone calling me Mistress when we don't know each other from Adam. Thankfully some actually take the time to ask how I prefer to be addressed.

BKSir -> RE: Don;t call me "Master" (3/1/2011 7:07:25 PM)
Nope, OP, not just you by any means. I hate it. Unless they're my sub, or their D-type has specifically instructed them to refer to other D's that way, then good lord, don't call me Sir/Master/Sire/etc... I do appreciate the gesture, and I may have an over-inflated ego, but, that's not part of it. quote: ORIGINAL: MsLadySue I totally understand your pet peeve. I dislike someone calling me Mistress when we don't know each other from Adam. Thankfully some actually take the time to ask how I prefer to be addressed. Oooh, that would be nice. I think many of the S-types here on CM could and possibly should take this idea and run with it. :)

BigMasterCinTN -> RE: Don't call me "Master" (3/1/2011 8:07:31 PM)
I am A Master, but I agree.... untill I have a girl collared and begging, I'm not their Master. I prefer Sir... much more appropriate, yet still respectful.... it's not just you.

avena -> RE: Don't call me "Master" (3/1/2011 10:23:56 PM)
i get rather tired of having to explain to people that i have a name, and i'd prefer if they used it. the only one who calls me by various labels without me batting an eyelash, is the one who's collar i wear. i find it amusing to see how many "Doms" get their knickers in a knot over the fact that i don't answer to 'slave', 'slut', 'girl', 'little one' or any other label they care to use...just because they're dominant and i'm submissive. i've even been told i'm a bad sub because of it! i'm sure D is thrilled that these total strangers have informed me of my bad sub status, so i can go to Him and ask Him to beat it out of me... funny enough, those same "Doms" get upset when i don't call them Master, Sir, Lord or whatever their chosen honourific is. i don't even call my own Master "Master". why on earth would i call someone by that title??

IronBear -> RE: Don't call me "Master" (3/1/2011 11:11:40 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: porcelaine quote: ORIGINAL: salemartist I understand its a submissive jesture and a wish to show respect, but if I have never looked down at you with a fist full of your hair I am NOT your master! is it just me? Greetings, I have always found it odd when a gentleman addresses me as girl, slave, or little one. Particularly when we have no connection and have never conversed in the past. Although I don't care for it, I maintain my composure and usually indicate in a polite manner that porcelaine is fine. It isn't something I'm willing to debate or get worked up about. On the flip side, I do not utilize honorifics when I'm speaking to them unless he's involved with someone I'm acquainted with or we have established a rapport that dictates that form of address. Namaste, ~porcelaine Slaves collared to us and me personally will always address males identified by me as Gorean as Master and identified Gorean Free Women as Mistress. Others, I expect them to enquire how the person is to be addressed. When a sub/slave who I don't know from Adam or Eve (except by the naked tits ), addresses me as master my ready response is Yes I am a Master, but, not your Master! (To which I may add if they are uncollared,...YET!!)

cherryunicorn -> RE: Don't call me "Master" (3/1/2011 11:44:17 PM)
at the OP....Yes Master, as you wish..... ;)

FukinTroll -> RE: Don;t call me "Master" (3/1/2011 11:46:27 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: sweetsub1957 Oh my. So is comparing this....... quote: ORIGINAL: FukinTroll Submissive: Things are clicking but he/she is still on their own agenda. To this....... quote: ORIGINAL: FukinTroll Tentative slave: You're agenda is looking pretty good but he/she is still gauging how much you appreciate and respect them as a person/dynamic partner. Slave: You have taken out all your freaks and monsters and they all like fukin his/her freaks and monsters, you are clicking and meshing on every level, he/she trusts you implicitly and he/she surrenders completely to you, trusting that you will provide and meet all his/her needs, maybe not all the wants, but the needs are assured. .....saying that submissives are self-centered and all about themselves and somehow slaves, even tentative slaves, are inherently selfless, better commodities and more committed than submissives? Gee, I hope not. That would be like saying that somehow "Masters" are inherently more Dominant and capable of leadership than "Doms" and Doms are yet another step above "Tops." Whatever. [8\|] ~sweetsub~ P.S. Did someone say valium? haha Just kidding. Again... YMMV, this isn't a one true way hypothesis, it is my fukin way hypothesis... take it, leave it, doesn't matter one fukin bit to me.

porcelaine -> RE: Don't call me "Master" (3/2/2011 12:20:11 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: IronBear Slaves collared to us and me personally will always address males identified by me as Gorean as Master and identified Gorean Free Women as Mistress. Others, I expect them to enquire how the person is to be addressed. There is a caveat in what I stated and that wasn't mentioned since it isn't applicable at present. When owned I use an honorific as a form address for all dominant parties. My partners are generally very protocol oriented and I shift up automatically when involved. But while I'm fancy free I've found the other approach presents less headaches and allows me to navigate the online landscape without much upset. quote: ORIGINAL: FukinTroll Again... YMMV, this isn't a one true way hypothesis, it is my fukin way hypothesis... take it, leave it, doesn't matter one fukin bit to me. I didn't take it but I did agree. [;)] Namaste, ~porcelaine

Awareness -> RE: Don't call me "Master" (3/2/2011 1:03:27 AM)
If a woman tosses out honorifics at the drop of a hat, then she's uninteresting. I want a prize that's hard won, not some pathetic doormat desperate to fall at the feet of any self-identified dom with a bad haircut and a neckbeard.

tazzygirl -> RE: Don't call me "Master" (3/2/2011 2:47:35 AM)
~FR Guess no one took in the fact that their is a huge difference between saying... yes Master.. and yes, my Master. Ah, the subtle differences are lost on many, I suppose.

phoenixmoonn13 -> RE: Don't call me "Master" (3/2/2011 4:25:16 AM)
my master is master other doms havent collared me so none of them gets called anything but their name its not to do with submission as i will always be respectful and i can thelp but show who i am but they are not my master so dont get given teh honour of bing called it. however if i am with master an happen to meet other masters then i am to call them sir x y or z what ever there name is. master also doesnt like to be called master by those who do not wear his collar. like wise as someone said i am not girl or anyof the toehr things to them eihther i am only girl etc to master.

IronBear -> RE: Don't call me "Master" (3/2/2011 4:29:58 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: tazzygirl ~FR Guess no one took in the fact that their is a huge difference between saying... yes Master.. and yes, my Master. Ah, the subtle differences are lost on many, I suppose. Well to split hairs (pubic of course), I was trained that it is (Gorean wise), not acceptable for a girl to call her Master "my Master" as it is possessive and a Gorean slave owns no possessions. The "my" can be all in the voice and body language which is then perfectly acceptable. Just a small thought. Some things still stay with me.

tazzygirl -> RE: Don't call me "Master" (3/2/2011 5:54:16 AM)
when owned, you do as commanded. I know very few gorean men... though i am sure there are some who insist their girls do it otherwise... who prefer their girls to call other gorean men something besides "Master". My ears still ring from the time I called a gorean man "Sir". Its all a matter of training and expectations of the slave. The slaves of goreans are trained a bit differently. However, I have also been known to accept the desires of the man... or woman... in question. FP Dreamer (FP = Free Person) was one such man. He allowed only one to call him "Master". However, understanding the position that put many girls into, he allowed us to address him as FP. To this day, I address only my father as "Sir"...and the occassional older restaurant patron. quote: but they are not my master so dont get given teh honour of bing called it. Maybe thats the big difference. The gorean men I know do not consider it an honor to be addressed as such... they consider it their right.

tazzygirl -> RE: Don't call me "Master" (3/2/2011 5:55:44 AM)
quote: Well to split hairs (pubic of course), I was trained that it is (Gorean wise), not acceptable for a girl to call her Master "my Master" as it is possessive and a Gorean slave owns no possessions. The "my" can be all in the voice and body language which is then perfectly acceptable. Just a small thought. Some things still stay with me. And therein lies the differences in training. I was trained all gorean men were Master, and a slave was not allowed to utter a FM's name... so all men were Master... only one was to be considered "my Master".

LadyPact -> RE: Don't call me "Master" (3/2/2011 6:49:38 AM)
You're not the only one, OP. As a leather person, I prefer folks using leather protocols. That means that people not in a dynamic with Me should only be calling Me "Mistress" if there is a qualifying name immediately following. Mistress Pact works just fine or Mistress <insert real first name here> is ok, too, but just Mistress implies a dynamic that doesn't exist. Two exceptions for Me on this. If I'm dealing with someone who is owned and the person they are collared to has instructed them to do this, I'm not going to correct them. I'm not here to make the protocol decisions in other people's dynamics. The other is certain play partners that I'll allow them to call Me Mistress during play. I have one play partner now who gets into better head space by using the term, so I allow it.

OsideGirl -> RE: Don't call me "Master" (3/2/2011 6:52:54 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: salemartist I understand its a submissive jesture and a wish to show respect No, it's a desperate jesture, calling you Sir would be a wish to show you respect. (I don't address people I don't know as Sir, it's reserved for those that have earned my respect.) I'm also one of the ones that find someone using pet names when addressing me is rude. And the third side of the coin is the random email that lays out what my life will be with him and how I will address him as Master.

porcelaine -> RE: Don't call me "Master" (3/2/2011 8:30:56 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LadyPact You're not the only one, OP. As a leather person, I prefer folks using leather protocols. That means that people not in a dynamic with Me should only be calling Me "Mistress" if there is a qualifying name immediately following. Mistress Pact works just fine or Mistress <insert real first name here> is ok, too, but just Mistress implies a dynamic that doesn't exist. Greetings, This is part of the caveat I mentioned earlier. When conversing with Leatherfolk I will address them as Sir or Ma'am as a courtesy. I'm aware of the culture and have great respect for it. I realize that protocol is usually a hot button for some, but it needn't be as divisive in my opinion. Uttering an honorific doesn't increase or lessen my status with the other party. It is merely a demonstration of my ability to be polite, respectful and mindful of other perspectives. Namaste, ~porcelaine

sofldan -> RE: Don't call me "Master" (3/2/2011 8:51:00 AM)
I don't mind being called Sir, to me thats a sign of respect for who I am. I used to hate it when I was younger I would always look around to see if they were talking to my Grandfather. And Sir is common term of respect for someone even in the 'nilla world. Well maybe not common as much anymore but I wont get into the degradation of our society here. But for someone I have never met to call me Master makes my skin crawl and really has the chance to send me off the deep end on a rant. Don't call me Master if you don't know me. If you do know me then it's different.

Aynne88 -> RE: Don't call me "Master" (3/2/2011 9:05:41 AM)
Oh chill dudes. I am so willing to bet that we women get far more terms tossed at us than you manly men get the occasional "Master" from a newbie. Let's see..this week alone: Pet, lil girl, gross slut, babygirl ick again and little one. Not to mention the super original generic salutation of slave. No need to worry, I won't be calling any random man Master or Sir. You can all breathe a sigh of relief.

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