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naughtynick -> RE: When it comes to sex (5/5/2006 7:01:35 PM)

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ORIGINAL: wytchywoman

Oh hell. I'm a sub. I shouldn't like to make wankers cry. But this guy was begging for it. What a great impression he made to all Dominants/Dommes/subs/slaves alike.

He really does need to got to paid site if he wants to have sex by the minute.



Why should a man have to pay money to get sex? a woman doesnt.




LadyHugs -> RE: When it comes to sex (5/5/2006 7:10:33 PM)

Dear naughtynick;

If you wish to be Gay--just do it.  However, beware of STDs, HIV, yeast infections, Hep. A, B, C and such.

Won't die from housework but, you might die from reckless sex.

Respectfully submitted,
Lady Hugs




naughtynick -> RE: When it comes to sex (5/5/2006 7:12:16 PM)

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ORIGINAL: LadyHugs

Dear naughtynick;

If you wish to be Gay--just do it.  However, beware of STDs, HIV, yeast infections, Hep. A, B, C and such.

Won't die from housework but, you might die from reckless sex.

Respectfully submitted,
Lady Hugs

anyone can carry them diseases, not just gay men.





MistressSassy66 -> RE: When it comes to sex (5/5/2006 7:13:08 PM)

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ORIGINAL: naughtynick

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ORIGINAL: Proprietrix

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ORIGINAL: naughtynick

I thought BDSM was all about sex.


Are you are assuming that all Dominas share this perspective with you? Most do not. In fact, a good portion of the BDSM population does not share this perspective with you. Some do though, and perhaps you will meet one who does. I am doubtful that it will be here though.

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It is something unusual that makes you horny.


No. It is something that makes YOU horny. Again, you are assuming that all Dominas share this opinion with you.

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A fetish is something that is about having an orgasm over a bizarre situation or object.


That is one definition of the word. To deny the other definitions of the word, shows only ignorance.
FYI:
fet·ish
n.
  1. An object that is believed to have magical or spiritual powers, especially such an object associated with animistic or shamanistic religious practices.
  2. An object of unreasonably excessive attention or reverence: made a fetish of punctuality.
  3. Something, such as a material object or a nonsexual part of the body, that arouses sexual desire and may become necessary for sexual gratification.
  4. An abnormally obsessive preoccupation or attachment; a fixation.


I've seen all of those definitions used within the BDSM population. Again, don't assume that everyone uses the same definition you use.

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It is not all about being a slave without anything sexual involved.


To some people, it is precisely this. And that is their choice.

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Thats just some stupid lame ass excuse because the domme is too lazy to do it themselves. They should hire a maid instead.


Beyond the fact that you have nothing to back up this claim, why are you even concerning yourself with other people's domestics? Are other people's cleaning habits a soapbox you hop up on often?

Besides, if they are "too lazy" to clean their home, they are probably "too lazy" to exert themselves with having sex with you, therefore these aren't the women you would be seeking anyway. What does it matter one iota in your life whether or not some lazy person somewhere is in a relationship with some guy with blue balls who cleans her house?

I simply don't understand why you even care what other couples are doing in their own home? Why does it bother you so very much that people aren't conforming to your perceptions, your definitions, and your expectations, for THEIR relationship?



I would like to say more but I cant be bothered. But what I would like to point out is, what bothers me is the woman expecting some reward or the man owes something to the woman just for having sex with her. The woman enjoys the sex as much as the man so why should the man owe the woman something? Women in here seem to think their pussy is made of gold. Men are more genuine when it comes to sex, women like to play cat and mouse and stuff the men around for it. Sometimes I wish I was gay.




Should I tell you how many women that I know personally who have gone on a date and had the guy expect sex just for a dinner.
I think its about time Women have that power.

It almost seems like you joined the site because you thought BDSM meant a sure thing for sex.




LadyHugs -> RE: When it comes to sex (5/5/2006 7:16:00 PM)

Dear Naughtynick,
 
You ask why should a man have to pay money to get sex?  A woman doesn't.
 
To answer that, women do pay dearly to have sex --it just isn't the tangible money.  Sometimes women will pay for male escorts, same thing as a male prostitute.  But, most times the male prostitute is mature...not a boy.
 
Plus, men paying women to have sex is merely a nine months "carrying fee" for sperm deposits.
 
Lady Hugs




Collaredkitten -> RE: When it comes to sex (5/5/2006 7:23:28 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Wulfchyld

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ORIGINAL: MistressImp

yes...Yes....YES LOKI!!!!!!!!!! only if we cuck nick first. [:)]


I’m game. I say we suspend him with a good view and feed him Viagra!



That's just cruel....funny...but ooh so cruel *giggles*




quietkitten -> RE: When it comes to sex (5/5/2006 7:23:58 PM)

You have been here before haven't you nick?  Different name same bitching and moaning.

You hate women but you want sex..???

Go buy a blow up doll... you can screw it all you want and it will never ask you to do the dishes.




naughtynick -> RE: When it comes to sex (5/5/2006 7:25:36 PM)

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ORIGINAL: MistressSassy66

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ORIGINAL: naughtynick

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ORIGINAL: Proprietrix

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ORIGINAL: naughtynick

I thought BDSM was all about sex.


Are you are assuming that all Dominas share this perspective with you? Most do not. In fact, a good portion of the BDSM population does not share this perspective with you. Some do though, and perhaps you will meet one who does. I am doubtful that it will be here though.

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It is something unusual that makes you horny.


No. It is something that makes YOU horny. Again, you are assuming that all Dominas share this opinion with you.

quote:

 
A fetish is something that is about having an orgasm over a bizarre situation or object.


That is one definition of the word. To deny the other definitions of the word, shows only ignorance.
FYI:
fet·ish
n.
  1. An object that is believed to have magical or spiritual powers, especially such an object associated with animistic or shamanistic religious practices.
  2. An object of unreasonably excessive attention or reverence: made a fetish of punctuality.
  3. Something, such as a material object or a nonsexual part of the body, that arouses sexual desire and may become necessary for sexual gratification.
  4. An abnormally obsessive preoccupation or attachment; a fixation.


I've seen all of those definitions used within the BDSM population. Again, don't assume that everyone uses the same definition you use.

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It is not all about being a slave without anything sexual involved.


To some people, it is precisely this. And that is their choice.

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Thats just some stupid lame ass excuse because the domme is too lazy to do it themselves. They should hire a maid instead.


Beyond the fact that you have nothing to back up this claim, why are you even concerning yourself with other people's domestics? Are other people's cleaning habits a soapbox you hop up on often?

Besides, if they are "too lazy" to clean their home, they are probably "too lazy" to exert themselves with having sex with you, therefore these aren't the women you would be seeking anyway. What does it matter one iota in your life whether or not some lazy person somewhere is in a relationship with some guy with blue balls who cleans her house?

I simply don't understand why you even care what other couples are doing in their own home? Why does it bother you so very much that people aren't conforming to your perceptions, your definitions, and your expectations, for THEIR relationship?



I would like to say more but I cant be bothered. But what I would like to point out is, what bothers me is the woman expecting some reward or the man owes something to the woman just for having sex with her. The woman enjoys the sex as much as the man so why should the man owe the woman something? Women in here seem to think their pussy is made of gold. Men are more genuine when it comes to sex, women like to play cat and mouse and stuff the men around for it. Sometimes I wish I was gay.




Should I tell you how many women that I know personally who have gone on a date and had the guy expect sex just for a dinner.
I think its about time Women have that power.

It almost seems like you joined the site because you thought BDSM meant a sure thing for sex.


Well I dont see why a man has to do something to impress a woman or give a reward to the woman just to have sex. Last time I checked, women enjoy sex also. I just find it chauvinistic in a way. In other words its saying, we are more superior, my pussy is more superior than you so you have to please me and do things for me to have sex with me.

Don't get me wrong, I think it's arrogant for a man to expect sex from a woman on a first date. In my perspective, BDSM is an interest because it makes me horny. Why bother playing these fantasies when you are not sexually aroused by it? Why bother letting someone tie you up or inflict pain on you if you dont feel aroused by it? Why bother working at a job if you are not going to get paid? unless you are doing it for your community.






naughtynick -> RE: When it comes to sex (5/5/2006 7:30:15 PM)

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ORIGINAL: quietkitten

You have been here before haven't you nick?  Different name same bitching and moaning.

You hate women but you want sex..???

Go buy a blow up doll... you can screw it all you want and it will never ask you to do the dishes.



NO I don't hate women
YES I do want sex






MHOO314 -> RE: When it comes to sex (5/5/2006 7:31:38 PM)

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ORIGINAL: naughtynick

Most women are all talk and no action. BDSM seems to be more about the man doing house work for them than the sexual side of things. What a waste of space. 


IMHO, I think you are peod, because no Domme of repute has jumped at your fantasy profile, because you want it to be all about you and it's not. I think you have bad attitude because no one fell over the "sex slave boy who wants to do it his way"--so you hoped by stirring things, you would out a Domme that would notice you. I happen to know several outstanding Domme's in Australia--but it appears they may not be buying what you're selling----er trying to give away.




naughtynick -> RE: When it comes to sex (5/5/2006 7:36:28 PM)

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ORIGINAL: MHOO314

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ORIGINAL: naughtynick

Most women are all talk and no action. BDSM seems to be more about the man doing house work for them than the sexual side of things. What a waste of space. 


IMHO, I think you are peod, because no Domme of repute has jumped at your fantasy profile, because you want it to be all about you and it's not. I think you have bad attitude because no one fell over the "sex slave boy who wants to do it his way"--so you hoped by stirring things, you would out a Domme that would notice you. I happen to know several outstanding Domme's in Australia--but it appears they may not be buying what you're selling----er trying to give away.


No it's not all about me, its finding a domme who gets aroused by the idea. If the domme gets aroused by doing this act, she gets her benifit also. If the domme does not get aroused, whats the point in doing it? I wouldn't do it with a domme if I knew she was not getting enjoyment out of it. In other words, if a domme offered to do it just for the sake of pleasing me and not her, I would not be interested.




MHOO314 -> RE: When it comes to sex (5/5/2006 7:41:36 PM)

I am sure if you keep looking you will find one who will--but I'd suggest an attitude change--after all if She's here--you may have burned your bridge before you started.




twicehappy -> RE: When it comes to sex (5/5/2006 7:42:56 PM)

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ORIGINAL: naughtynick

I thought BDSM was all about sex. It is something unusual that makes you horny.  A fetish is something that is about having an orgasm over a bizarre situation or object. It is not all about being a slave without anything sexual involved. Thats just some stupid lame ass excuse because the domme is too lazy to do it themselves. They should hire a maid instead.
 

Do you know what the letters in BDSM stand for?

Bondage Discipline SadoMasochism

There is no mention of sex in the abbreviation or definition. Yes sex is often a part of it, for some it is the only part. But sex is not the greater part of it.




Najakcharmer -> RE: When it comes to sex (5/5/2006 7:43:44 PM)

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ORIGINAL: naughtynick

Most women are all talk and no action. BDSM seems to be more about the man doing house work for them than the sexual side of things. What a waste of space. 


Translation: "Nobody from this site wants to have sex with me, even though I sent them pictures of my penis and asked real nicely. It's NOT FAIR and everybody on this site is NOT A  REAL DOMME."

Clue #1: if you can't find a compatible kinky partner who is willing to date you, play with you and have sex with you, the reason for this, and the responsibility for this, could just possibly have more to do with you than with 51% of the human race.

Clue #2: Whiny subs who decide to insult all women because they can't get laid are not improving their chances of getting a domme interested enough to do any kind of BDSM play with them, let alone the most intimate type.  That attitude is ugly and unattractive in the extreme. 




GoddessDustyGold -> RE: When it comes to sex (5/5/2006 7:47:41 PM)

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ORIGINAL: naughtynick
No it's not all about me, its finding a domme who gets aroused by the idea. If the domme gets aroused by doing this act, she gets her benifit also. If the domme does not get aroused, whats the point in doing it? I wouldn't do it with a domme if I knew she was not getting enjoyment out of it. In other words, if a domme offered to do it just for the sake of pleasing me and not her, I would not be interested.



I most assuredly get aroused when a boy says "Yes, ma'am" and goes off to do the dishes. *Smile*
Nick, you are being honest by identifying as a "bottom" in your profile.  We had this discussion months ago, and that is when you realized you are not really submissive, just into the kink.  Whether or not you will grown into submissiveness is not important right now.  What is important is that your whining on these forums about how unfair everything is, and how much you hate Women is getting old.  Most of this site is about lifestyle and power exchange.  The kink is an aside.  For you the kink is the main focus, with a vanilla relationship on the side.  You should not be storming into these forums claiming that everybody is doing everything wrong because it is not what "naughtynick" wants.  You have a right to your preferences, and maybe you are in the wrong place.  You don't seem to be having much luck with hooking up, and that is because most people on this site are not looking for the casual play you are. Dominants are looking for submission.  We can get the kink all day long, every day of the week. 




Wulfchyld -> RE: When it comes to sex (5/5/2006 7:47:48 PM)

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ORIGINAL: naughtynick

I Sometimes I wish I was gay.



Naughtynick I think homosexuality would be a better venue for you. In that environment you would find someone who could relate equally on your sexual level. What you fail to realize is men and women are very different. When you learn how to make love to her mind she will do anything you want to your body.




Proprietrix -> RE: When it comes to sex (5/5/2006 7:51:55 PM)

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ORIGINAL: naughtynick
Why bother playing these fantasies when you are not sexually aroused by it? Why bother letting someone tie you up or inflict pain on you if you dont feel aroused by it?


Do you honestly want answers to these questions? Or were they rhetorical in your point?
Don't get me wrong. I'm not jumping on you, insulting your opinion, or projecting upon you. I'm trying to gain an understanding of you.

You express yourself as a highly sexually driven person, and that's fine. Many people have insurmountable libidos. Some of them are very good people. Is your posting goal to find other highly sexually driven individuals? Or is it to learn other perspectives and reasons behind why some people engage in the lifestyle beyond sexuality? Or are you just really frustrated and wanted to vent?
All are ok options. I'm just unsure which discourse we're involved in here and need a few cues on which direction to go with the conversation.

I'm more than happy to contribute what I can to your cause. If you want laid, I can probably aim you in a few directions where you can get that. If you want to vent, go right ahead. Many people here do. It can even be a learning experience if everyone remembers their manners and avoids overgeneralizations and insults. If you want to learn, you landed on the bullseye. There's plenty to learn here.

So again I ask
Do you honestly want answers to these questions? Or were they rhetorical in your point?




naughtynick -> RE: When it comes to sex (5/5/2006 7:54:06 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Najakcharmer

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ORIGINAL: naughtynick

Most women are all talk and no action. BDSM seems to be more about the man doing house work for them than the sexual side of things. What a waste of space. 


Translation: "Nobody from this site wants to have sex with me, even though I sent them pictures of my penis and asked real nicely. It's NOT FAIR and everybody on this site is NOT A  REAL DOMME."

Clue #1: if you can't find a compatible kinky partner who is willing to date you, play with you and have sex with you, the reason for this, and the responsibility for this, could just possibly have more to do with you than with 51% of the human race.

Clue #2: Whiny subs who decide to insult all women because they can't get laid are not improving their chances of getting a domme interested enough to do any kind of BDSM play with them, let alone the most intimate type.  That attitude is ugly and unattractive in the extreme. 



This thread is not made to make dommes interested in me. Its a rant. If there is such a thing as "do me " subs, that means there is such a thing of "do me" dommes. I think 95 percent of dommes are "do me" dommes. Expecting a sub or slave to do house work or what ever and not giving the sub/slave any sexual pleasure in return is a "do me" domme, more than anything. Why don't these types get criticized? When a man ask for sex he gets criticized and labeled as a "do me" but the point is, women enjoy the sex also. Whats worse? asking for sex or asking for someone to do your house work for nothing?

I think a sub or a male in particular has every right to complain about a certain unfairness as much as a domme or a woman does on a daily basis.




GoddessDustyGold -> RE: When it comes to sex (5/5/2006 8:05:35 PM)

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ORIGINAL: naughtynick

I think a sub or a male in particular has every right to complain about a certain unfairness as much as a domme or a woman does on a daily basis.



Who told you D/s or M/s was fair?  The minute a boy says to Me, it's not fair" I show him the door. 
This is not set up as a equal lifestyle. If it was, we would all just be kinky in the bedroom.  What is fair is getting your needs met.  What is fair to one, is not fair to another.  The site is called "collarme".  Not "tiemeuponfridays".  You might be much better off elsewhere, nick.  I am beginning to think this is really not the place for you.  We are very tolerant of those who have a different view.  We are not so tolerant (as evidenced by the responses on this thread)of those who want to argue that all FemDom's are lazy just because a certain way isn't getting naughtynick laid his way.   




naughtynick -> RE: When it comes to sex (5/5/2006 8:07:54 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Proprietrix

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ORIGINAL: naughtynick
Why bother playing these fantasies when you are not sexually aroused by it? Why bother letting someone tie you up or inflict pain on you if you dont feel aroused by it?


Do you honestly want answers to these questions? Or were they rhetorical in your point?
Don't get me wrong. I'm not jumping on you, insulting your opinion, or projecting upon you. I'm trying to gain an understanding of you.

You express yourself as a highly sexually driven person, and that's fine. Many people have insurmountable libidos. Some of them are very good people. Is your posting goal to find other highly sexually driven individuals? Or is it to learn other perspectives and reasons behind why some people engage in the lifestyle beyond sexuality? Or are you just really frustrated and wanted to vent?
All are ok options. I'm just unsure which discourse we're involved in here and need a few cues on which direction to go with the conversation.

I'm more than happy to contribute what I can to your cause. If you want laid, I can probably aim you in a few directions where you can get that. If you want to vent, go right ahead. Many people here do. It can even be a learning experience if everyone remembers their manners and avoids overgeneralizations and insults. If you want to learn, you landed on the bullseye. There's plenty to learn here.

So again I ask
Do you honestly want answers to these questions? Or were they rhetorical in your point?


Thank you for your reasonable post. I made this thread for a few reasons. To rant and to understand and learn more about it. I am willing to listen to everyones opinion but as you can see I have mine.

I am the type of person who says what I think, I dont hold it in. It has gotten me in strife in the past but thats just me. I am a stubborn Taurus. To answer your question, I am frustrated and angry but I also want to understand. I may come across as harsh but I dont mean to personally attack everyone here.  I guess a man has to be a genius to understand women as much as a woman would have to be a genius to understand men.
What I seem to think on here is a man feels the need to come on this site for sexual pleasure, a woman comes on this site to find a man that will do everything for her that has little to nothing to do with sex.

I guess thats the main reason why both men and women find it difficult in getting what we want.




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