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RE: Introducing Pain to a new sub - 3/7/2011 7:16:05 PM

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Can't we just get along?! We're always fighting! One day, and oh, one day soon, when gigantic spider aliens come and invade our Earth, we're gonna look so silly to them! Do you know why? DO YOU? Because we can't unite! We need to unite! I am suggesting...NO....demanding that this topic be on hold, and we all apologize to one another for any offense we have caused!

I'll have what NocturnalStalker is smoking please :D

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RE: Introducing Pain to a new sub - 3/7/2011 7:16:05 PM

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The funny thing about people telling your their pain threshold is they dn't always know.

True Story.

We had a well known masochist who was known to play at lots of different parties, volunteer to be the bottom during a demonstration. My boyfriend chains her to the St. Andrews cross and tells her, ok 1-10, 10 being the most painful, what would you rank the sensations. Then he proceeded to flog her very lightly with a suede leather flogger. She cried out 8! He stopped, looked at me with a baffled expression that I shared with him, then he looked at the flogger as if he was sure he mmust have been holding something else. Then he told her again, ok with TEN being unbearably painful, what would you rank this pain? Then he again, lightly struck her on the back with the suede flogger and she again cried out 8! At that point, he thanked her for her time and let her down ffrom the cross.

No matter who you ask, or what they say, you just can't RELATE to what their perception of pain tolerance is (compared to your own expectations), until you are actually interacting with them in person.

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RE: Introducing Pain to a new sub - 3/7/2011 7:16:11 PM

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So - if you have a sub who is experienced in degradation/humiliation but no pain.
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Hypothetical. Though easy to misread - hense i edited it .

Not per my recollection. I distinctly recall you claiming you had a sub who was experienced in humiliation but no pain.

To be honest, as soon as I read the tone of your profile, I knew you had no experience.

~gasp~ You mean all those years playing dungeons & dragons counted for nothing? I'm shocked I tell you!!!!

(I read his profile just now. I wish I hadn't...)

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RE: Introducing Pain to a new sub - 3/7/2011 7:19:38 PM

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Then your knowledge of me is low - i have how ever never had a submissive "new" to pain so the whole introducing it is new to me. I have only ever had submissives who knew what they liked and did not like, thus eliminating my need to test waters as such.

Come off it. Combining all that talk about how you will treat your slave, coupled with calling her names? If you have any experience, it's online. I may not know you specifically, but I've read many profiles and can sum them up quickly.

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And my original post is quoted in this thread read the first line of the quote it will be precisely as i said if you can be bothered to.

It's quoted only in your posts and the responses to them. In other words, it's still your claim only.

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What i find fascinating with people exploring what they like / dislike regarding pain is directly related to mental state of mind, which the mind is more my field of play than the physical pain which led me to curios question to ask the masses.

You forgot to add the word "unwashed" in front of the word "masses".

Having no experience is nothing to be ashamed of. Trying to pass yourself off as having some when in fact you have none, is how people get hurt.

Edited to add: I apologize, OP. The bolded portion of my post is what I got wrong. anjelika DID quote your original post and it was as you stated, even though poise and I both remembered differently.

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RE: Introducing Pain to a new sub - 3/7/2011 7:20:24 PM

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The funny thing about people telling your their pain threshold is they dn't always know.

True Story.

We had a well known masochist who was known to play at lots of different parties, volunteer to be the bottom during a demonstration. My boyfriend chains her to the St. Andrews cross and tells her, ok 1-10, 10 being the most painful, what would you rank the sensations. Then he proceeded to flog her very lightly with a suede leather flogger. She cried out 8! He stopped, looked at me with a baffled expression that I shared with him, then he looked at the flogger as if he was sure he mmust have been holding something else. Then he told her again, ok with TEN being unbearably painful, what would you rank this pain? Then he again, lightly struck her on the back with the suede flogger and she again cried out 8! At that point, he thanked her for her time and let her down ffrom the cross.

No matter who you ask, or what they say, you just can't RELATE to what their perception of pain tolerance is (compared to your own expectations), until you are actually interacting with them in person.

Did she not try other types to see how she responded to them ? Even i find 8 a surprise for a light flogger. I would be even more surprised if she found something else a low number such as a cane.

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DarkSteven - im glad i have eluded you, your skills of summing people up is sadly not perfect, and obviously needs work by sounds of it :)

My profile attracts the type of submissives i look for and works well on here and two other websites i commonly visit, even still - munches is where i have best success so forgive me if i don't try to use the internet as a serious method for searching for submissives. Cos its not a priority over munches and bdsm clubs.

So give up trying to play mr investigator it does nothing useful to this thread and/or my curiosity of people's pain interests

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RE: Introducing Pain to a new sub - 3/7/2011 7:29:20 PM

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You were so close op SO close to not sounding like an arrogant wanker...

If you go to such munches and clubs all the time... why not pose the question there to them real life?

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RE: Introducing Pain to a new sub - 3/7/2011 7:32:36 PM

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Can't we just get along?! We're always fighting! One day, and oh, one day soon, when gigantic spider aliens come and invade our Earth, we're gonna look so silly to them! Do you know why? DO YOU? Because we can't unite! We need to unite! I am suggesting...NO....demanding that this topic be on hold, and we all apologize to one another for any offense we have caused!

I'll have what NocturnalStalker is smoking please :D

Good post :P

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RE: Introducing Pain to a new sub - 3/7/2011 7:34:18 PM

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You were so close op SO close to not sounding like an arrogant wanker...

If you go to such munches and clubs all the time... why not pose the question there to them real life?

I do - but this site covers a larger mass of people thus expanding my answer to see if there was a trend in it.

But it appears the hostility of this site is as i was informed about. Pity.

I seem to get a lot more of an intelligent debate on fetlife. Here is a bit childish to say the lest (though there was a few good discussion posts which i thank them for)

Far too unfriendly here for me. Sorry.

NocturnalStalker - rofl!

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RE: Introducing Pain to a new sub - 3/7/2011 7:38:22 PM

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Im sure fet just loves you there.... Do us all a favor migrate...

Ive been on and off this site for a few years now, and for the most part while you might get a lot of advise you DONT want to hear, there is little to no hostility unless you bring it into the picture....

One thing to learn is, insulting regular posters, telling them what they can and cannot do when you do not own the website.... isnt a smart move on your part.

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RE: Introducing Pain to a new sub - 3/7/2011 7:42:11 PM

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Yeah, insulting regular posters is a much more serious crime than just insulting some random passer-by.

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RE: Introducing Pain to a new sub - 3/7/2011 7:43:09 PM

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Im sure fet just loves you there.... Do us all a favor migrate...

Ive been on and off this site for a few years now, and for the most part while you might get a lot of advise you DONT want to hear, there is little to no hostility unless you bring it into the picture....

One thing to learn is, insulting regular posters, telling them what they can and cannot do when you do not own the website.... isnt a smart move on your part.

Any respectful person who was educated, would know that, to spout your opinions where it was not asked is often considered rude. And i seem to have got quite alot of opinions of how i am as a dominant, which both incorrect and impossible for any one to just guess from the internet. So i got opinions rather than answers to my actual curiosity. Which thus makes their reply both off topic and non useful and just plain rude.

Unless of course you walk down the street and inform people they are fat when ever you feel the need to shout your unasked opinion? If you did then you need to re-assess what you consider polite manners.

How ever, to those who DID answer my curiosity with fascinating responses i thank you :)

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RE: Introducing Pain to a new sub - 3/7/2011 7:43:57 PM

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1) Being honest... is not an insult... He is acting like an arrogant wanker....

2) hes attacked several members on this thread simply because he didnt like what they had to say

3) Hes insulted the entire site as a whole because he didnt like what a few people had to say....

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RE: Introducing Pain to a new sub - 3/7/2011 7:43:57 PM

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RE: Introducing Pain to a new sub - 3/7/2011 7:45:18 PM

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1) Being honest... is not an insult... He is acting like an arrogant wanker....

2) hes attacked several members on this thread simply because he didnt like what they had to say

3) Hes insulted the entire site as a whole because he didnt like what a few people had to say....

I have thrown no name calling - and yet you called me an arrogant wanker.. i think you need to re-read my posts to see i have not name called any one.

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RE: Introducing Pain to a new sub - 3/7/2011 7:47:05 PM

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Any respectful person who was educated, would know that, to spout your opinions where it was not asked is often considered rude. And i seem to have got quite alot of opinions of how i am as a dominant, which both incorrect and impossible for any one to just guess from the internet. So i got opinions rather than answers to my actual curiosity. Which thus makes their reply both off topic and non useful and just plain rude.

Unless of course you walk down the street and inform people they are fat when ever you feel the need to shout your unasked opinion? If you did then you need to re-assess what you consider polite manners.

How ever, to those who DID answer my curiosity with fascinating responses i thank you :)

You posted on an open forum in which anyone has the right to respond, if the post is off topic there is a wonderful set of moderators here that can do their job just perfectly and remove those posts...

The fact is when you post no matter what it is your asking for you put yourself in the line of scrutiny... if you dont like that... that simply is the case then its very simple dont post.

Your style of posting the way you post, as well as your post, does call your style of dominance in to question.

And what youve asked is for OPINIONS, thats all that can be asked here, theres no hard proof or facts about the topic you posed so all you can get in return is opinions...

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RE: Introducing Pain to a new sub - 3/7/2011 7:53:40 PM

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Any respectful person who was educated, would know that, to spout your opinions where it was not asked is often considered rude. And i seem to have got quite alot of opinions of how i am as a dominant, which both incorrect and impossible for any one to just guess from the internet. So i got opinions rather than answers to my actual curiosity. Which thus makes their reply both off topic and non useful and just plain rude.

Unless of course you walk down the street and inform people they are fat when ever you feel the need to shout your unasked opinion? If you did then you need to re-assess what you consider polite manners.

How ever, to those who DID answer my curiosity with fascinating responses i thank you :)

You posted on an open forum in which anyone has the right to respond, if the post is off topic there is a wonderful set of moderators here that can do their job just perfectly and remove those posts...

The fact is when you post no matter what it is your asking for you put yourself in the line of scrutiny... if you dont like that... that simply is the case then its very simple dont post.

Your style of posting the way you post, as well as your post, does call your style of dominance in to question.

And what youve asked is for OPINIONS, thats all that can be asked here, theres no hard proof or facts about the topic you posed so all you can get in return is opinions...

I asked for opinions of their own experiences not of what i may or may not be like as a dominant. My posting does not relfect my dominance at all, sorry to say but my internet world does not match my real life as its impossible to read a post and know instantly the tone in which it was said thus resulting in mis-interpretations. Making the entire thing a trivial matter. It is also even harder when my first language is not English.

My point still stands which you didn't answer, do you go up to random people in the street and tell them that your opinion of them is - that they are fat? The answer is no, so why does the internet change that?

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RE: Introducing Pain to a new sub - 3/7/2011 9:12:03 PM

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What do you find more intolerable or as a Dom/me what have you observed more untolerable - sharp short stinging pains or more thud like pains?

neither - having neither is intolerable

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RE: Introducing Pain to a new sub - 3/7/2011 9:14:02 PM

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I would if someone came up to me asking me for my opinion and their weight would be a factor....

Your dominance does come into question when you are asking about a task you hope to preform... your ability to do Any of the above safely and experience in such is VERY important when it comes to someones ability to tolerate said pain..... a Kidney strike or a tailbone strike hurts a FUCKING HELL of a lot worse then an ass strike.

End of story. You came asking for opinions, you received those opinions.... Wither or not you like those opinions, or believe those opinions are relevant isnt at question here...

IF you dont like the opinions or think that they arent relevant instead of calling people names or telling them as such. Report the post and the MODERATORS WHOS JOB IT IS TO sort this out WILL DO SO.....

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RE: Introducing Pain to a new sub - 3/7/2011 9:30:05 PM

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I would if someone came up to me asking me for my opinion and their weight would be a factor....

Your dominance does come into question when you are asking about a task you hope to preform... your ability to do Any of the above safely and experience in such is VERY important when it comes to someones ability to tolerate said pain..... a Kidney strike or a tailbone strike hurts a FUCKING HELL of a lot worse then an ass strike.

End of story. You came asking for opinions, you received those opinions.... Wither or not you like those opinions, or believe those opinions are relevant isnt at question here...

IF you dont like the opinions or think that they arent relevant instead of calling people names or telling them as such. Report the post and the MODERATORS WHOS JOB IT IS TO sort this out WILL DO SO.....

Well said. Also Radiance, Im having trouble replying to you. Please message me your messenger so we can talk.

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RE: Introducing Pain to a new sub - 3/8/2011 4:44:38 AM

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It is also highly rude op to put up pictures of people other than yourself. Since you've admitted you have no sub, that isn't a picture of her put up with her consent. So you stole that photo. If from an amateur, you need a release, if from a pro site, you need to pay them for it.

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