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RE: A republican has a unique solution to immigration p... - 3/17/2011 4:35:55 PM   
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I find it funny that the Republicans on this board accept such statements as okay, yet condemn democrats for statements that do not involve killing people.


Which republicans accept this as ok. Do you have links?


I wonder why you didnt feel the need to question the person calling "all leftards"
nah not wondering, I know why



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RE: A republican has a unique solution to immigration p... - 3/17/2011 4:51:40 PM   
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I find it funny that the Republicans on this board accept such statements as okay, yet condemn democrats for statements that do not involve killing people.


Which republicans accept this as ok. Do you have links?



Well, one good example is sanity, of course he said it was not newsworthy. Yet he will post just about any statement or act of a democrat and condemn it like the person just burned a bible.

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RE: A republican has a unique solution to immigration p... - 3/17/2011 5:06:33 PM   
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Good point, well made. Would it be worth my pointing out that was meant to be a cheap joke, not a diss aimed at pa?
Oh,I knew that Moon....I was just going for a light moment myself.never take me too seriously.


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RE: A republican has a unique solution to immigration p... - 3/17/2011 5:36:26 PM   
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No, thats not what I wrote at all.

You really dont understand the very simple point I made in that post? I seriously doubt that I can dumb it down any further for you, but because Im such a nice guy I will give it a try.

At the state level you have all kinds of political freaks on both sides of the aisle, literally thousands of them - and you can probably find records of practically anything being said at that level, both left and right.

With me so far?

At that level, its really not newsworthy if someone says something crazy like that.

Get it?

I am not agreeing with the guy as youre pretending here, I am telling you "so what" because I know for a fact that its really nothing at that level of government. 

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Well, one good example is sanity, of course he said it was not newsworthy. Yet he will post just about any statement or act of a democrat and condemn it like the person just burned a bible.


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RE: A republican has a unique solution to immigration p... - 3/17/2011 7:34:55 PM   
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Status: offline 		Well let me play devils advocate here....and assume I agree with that proposition(wherein it doesn't really matter because its just the state level) Okay...but despite the supposed irrelevance of State Senators....the man still has an R. after his name....doesn't it behoove responsible republicans of all stripes and all levels of relevance to decry these despicable comments?
Now here is your opportunity to act sane and actually...without qualifications or reservations  decry these comments......the ball is in your court.


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RE: A republican has a unique solution to immigration p... - 3/17/2011 7:56:03 PM   
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Why shouldnt I answer insult with insult? You like to throw insults around, thats about all you do. You and most leftists here (or anywhere else for that matter) very rarely are capable of posting on topic, but when you get the same in response you act like its the end of the world

Once upon a time, in a galaxy far, far, away... you railed at folks who said all conservatives were alike and were slandered/insulted endlessly by libtards.  Once upon a time, you could carry on a decent discussion without tossing insults around like a schoolboy.

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RE: A republican has a unique solution to immigration p... - 3/17/2011 8:07:10 PM   
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Youre trying to be insulting here, which is pretty standard. You cry and bitch about the same thing you do when someone else does it...

Who did you used to post as. Whats your old nick?

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Once upon a time, in a galaxy far, far, away... you railed at folks who said all conservatives were alike and were slandered/insulted endlessly by libtards.  Once upon a time, you could carry on a decent discussion without tossing insults around like a schoolboy.



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RE: A republican has a unique solution to immigration p... - 3/17/2011 11:14:36 PM   
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I had a conversation with a 21 year old i work with about politics yesterday. It is his firm belief that those who are rich (and he is not of that class, just hopes to be one day) are paying a disproportionate share of taxes and that they should be paying less, not more. When I asked him why he felt that the middle and lower classes should be paying, percentage wise of their income, more than the rich, his comment was that the rich have earned their money, they should be able to keep it.

I point out his age because I found that a bit surprising coming from someone so young. Especially in light of some posters's beliefs that the country will be better once the older generation is gone.

Politics are insidious. In order to get everyone on the same page.... man... thats alot of work.


Well I don't think everyone needs to be on the same page per say.  Just have similar ideas of what needs to change.  But if no one takes it upon themselves to try and shake other people out of their sleep.  Then victory for free humanity will never come.  We will slowly slip away as the banksters suck us dry.  It's already happening right now.  Either we fight back or lose everything to them.  Of course by "fight back" I in no way advocate violence.  We all just need to march together.  Drop your left right bs and realize its all the same thing.  Both parties are bought and paid for.  They are only telling you what you want to hear.  Then going on their own agenda.  It's beyond me why people still defend their "party" like you really have a choice on what's going in the current system.


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RE: A republican has a unique solution to immigration p... - 3/17/2011 11:21:05 PM   
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Status: offline 		Both parties might,as you say be "bought and paid for".....but not by the same interests.You might find this a tad messy but there are definitely two different sides with two different agendas at work here.


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RE: A republican has a unique solution to immigration p... - 3/17/2011 11:32:40 PM   
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Status: offline 		I disagree. It may look that way, but all in all the money can be traced back to one source.  It all comes from the Fed who creates the money out of thin air and lends it to our government at interest.  It's all a banking cartel.  The Federal Reserve is no more federal than Federal Express.  It is a privately owned bank masquerading as a federal entity. 

It's simple really.  If they want to deregulate, they put their money behind the democrats. If they want to go to war, they put their money behind the republicans.  They know how to play the game.  They been doing it for a long long time.  They are playing us all against each other because we cant even realize, there's no difference anymore if both parties have the same boss. You got the Wall Street Oligarchy, the Anglo-American Empire, and the false left vs. right paradigm.  Thus maintaining the status quo. 

Establishments aren't put here to change things.  They are put here to keep them the same.  Hence establishment.  But I do understand why it is the way it is.  One simple quote sheds light on all.

"None are more hopelessly enslaved, than those who falsely believe they are free."

I just hope we wake up soon enough.  Before thoughts becomes crimes. Before there are only those with money and those without.  Before we are all homeless on the lands our fathers conquered.  At some point you have to ask yourself when is enough, enough?  When is our government so toxic that it's doing more harm than good?  I think, right now.

I swore an oath to defend the Constitution.  I plan to uphold that oath for the rest of my life.  These politicians shit on it.  Time to wake up.  Time to pay attention.  Turn off ABC, Fox, NBC, CNN, you name it.  Get some independent sources and start thinking for yourself.  Do your own research and see what's really going on right now.  How serious things really are.  Because if your listening to main stream media.  Your never going to get the REAL news.  Your never going to hear the dirt.  Because all those media sources are corporately owned and its not in the best interests of the profit structure, for the plebs to hear bad things and want to stop spending their money on pointless shit.  So either they lie, sugar coat it, or don't report it at all.  Then if the shit hits the fan and they didn't report it.  They just say "oh were sorry" and it isn't even given a second thought.  Even though if you were actually paying attention beyond our own media, you would realize most other media sources in the WORLD report it, accept us.

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RE: A republican has a unique solution to immigration p... - 3/18/2011 12:04:53 AM   
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Status: offline 		Chi, we been through that. It is private but chartered. It's like PERS. But is that this thread ?

You can blame the Fed all you want, but you have to realize that it is now an international thing. I totally agree that it shouldn't be, but it is. We should have no national debt, NONE. We should've lived within our means from the gitgo. Sure we wouldn't have a few things, but we certainly wouldn't miss them.

Now it is ridiculous to expect loyalty to us from those in other countries when we would be stupid to expect that from our own. They have sold everything they could get their hands on, natural resources, labor when it was competitive and even our intellectual properties. And they want more.

For the most part revolutions don't succeed without the help of the US or other "new axis" power. Our's will not succeed the first time. Who knows about the next one and it surely won't happen in our time. I doubt the first one will happen in our time.

There is one very logical thing to say here, when people don't do what you want them to do, and they take from you, they are not your friends. This is the whole thing re: government. It has become what the founders expected. What they didn't expect was the extreme overpopulation of the world, and the complacency of the people. Complacency has only one cure - intolerability. We tolerate, and will continue to do so until it is no longer possible. Jefferson recomended a revolution every twenty years. All the founders wanted to see our sovereignty held dear and sacred, fought for and won, not to relinquished by the greedy, who were the very types from whom they sought to become independent.

I consider the whole thing a wash at this point. Bail. Not bail out of the country, just bail and stay right here. They created the problem, let's help them. Become part of the problem. Let them fall on their own, without a shot fired. It can happen if everyone gets some fucking brains.

And immigration, well so what. If people perceive that all we are is lines drawn on a map, let them go with it. And let them experience emmigrtion when they have had enough. Then we WILL have a wall to keep our people in. Not out.

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RE: A republican has a unique solution to immigration p... - 3/18/2011 12:24:19 AM   
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Status: offline 		I half agree with you here.  The only parts I disagree on is that you think it's not in your lifetime and that those behind the Fed are that cut and dry.  Their plan is depopulation and consolidation of wealth.  It's happening right now.  I know your not really a eugenicist, I was just tired of defending my posts against you.  But the fact of the matter is that THEY ARE. 

Now with Anonymous around they are going to be tightening the leash.  This is a new thing.  In the 60's and 70's you guys lacked this one VERY necessary tool.  The internet.  Soon they are going to crack down on it.  The first amendment all together and don't think it will end there.  A process has begun that can never stop.  You cant stop an idea.  The more you try the stronger it gets.  Eventually enough will be enough and people will fight back.  Hopefully without an actual civil war.  It's not outside your 

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RE: A republican has a unique solution to immigration p... - 3/18/2011 1:18:40 AM   
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Status: offline 		"I know your not really a eugenicist,"

But I am.

That's one of the holes in your knowledge base. You must learn to see these things. There is no need to defend yourself, for there is no attack.

Understand just how you have misunderstood. I have gotten thrown out of a friend's house for saying that he had no business having kids. I decided not to have kids. And that's not the half of it. I think that ANYONE recieving any public benefit should have the option of wearing a real EFFECTIVE chasity belt or being sterilized. And I bet you think I'm kidding. I also think the government should give away free abortions, but with a bonus, a sterilization. Mandatory. Hey if you got your own money for this shit fine, but if not tough shit. You should've thought about that before fucking. Rubbers don't cost that much.

Sure, I am a knuckle dragging asshole, who belongs down south or something. But my way would work. The other way is going to result in a world population of almost seven billion very soon :

07/01/10    6,852,472,823
08/01/10    6,858,904,297
09/01/10    6,865,335,772
10/01/10    6,871,559,780
11/01/10    6,877,991,255
12/01/10    6,884,215,263
01/01/11    6,890,646,738
02/01/11    6,897,078,213
03/01/11    6,902,887,287
04/01/11    6,909,318,762
05/01/11    6,915,542,770
06/01/11    6,921,974,245
07/01/11    6,928,198,253

About six million in June of 2010, almost seven million in june of 2011. This is ONE MONTH. What do you think is going to happen in ten YEARS ? Look around, at the clammoring for reources, starting wars and all that over natural resources. Maybe you don't see the big picture, alternatives exist to stop our meddling in the middle east, but we ally ourselves with Israel because they have what is known as "location location location". Look at the lay of the land, and the position. Therefore we promote that ally's interest there. It is not that illogical, even though I am totally against it. I think we should make friends with the rest of them instead, but then they are too religious, or at least that is how it is seen. And this is discounting religious factors that are "distasteful" . The show must go on for Bible belt support and such, "normal people" who sign their own death warrants. Well they ain't signing mine.

You don't know me very well. Abortion is murder plain and simple, and I am all for it. It is more humane to kill someopne before they are born. Even more humane would be to kill them before they were ever concieved. In fact it wouldn't be killing them then right ? Or would you rather kill them as they bust through you bedroom window eighteen years later with a .45 ?

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RE: A republican has a unique solution to immigration p... - 3/18/2011 2:01:08 AM   
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Status: offline 		People don't have to die though.  We just need to get off this rock is all.  If we had 2 planets we would be just fine.  Think its that far off?  How about we take all the yearly budget we spend on national "defense" and apply it to NASA.  Lets do it for 5 years.  I bet you we make leaps and bounds in space travel.  The only reason it looks like people have to die to solve the problem.  Is because we spend all our time devising ways to kill one another instead of ways to free ourselves from the bonds of our own planet.

PS  My bad then, I was wrong and you are a Nazi.  Happy?


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RE: A republican has a unique solution to immigration p... - 3/18/2011 2:48:11 AM   
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Status: offline 		"PS  My bad then, I was wrong and you are a Nazi.  Happy? "

Quite happy. If the Nazis were not anti Jew they could've done it. Put the deal to them just right and they could've taken the world with Fermi and the bunch. But really I am not a Nazi because that implies socialism. However I can understnd the extreme nationalist point of view back then. It was just an effect of the cause, which was caused when Hitler was a kid. War reparations, especially with France which was the biggest asshole about it, damnear broke the country. What, did you think they sprouted up a superworkforce the day Dolf walked into the office ? Hell no, the profits were no longer used to make reparations. France wanted every fucking dime. They CAUSED WW2 by raping Germany after WW1. Our own officials said it, and said it again after WW2, that they would not let it happen again. OR did you forget about that while studying those meaningless documents like the Constitution. Don't get me wrong, I would love to see it observed as Law, and it is Law. But until we can enforce it, it means nothing.

There is a higher law, that of force.

If you want to read, I have a document for you. If you are truly pure enough in mind to read it with an open mind will I be surprised, you will see this whole bunch of shit in a different light. Send me one Cmail and it is yours. One ZIP file containing 24 or so HTM files with no java or anything. Scan then for virii, please do. Read it.

One mail, that's all it takes. I can paste it into Cmail if you don't want to give up your email. But until you read it, your opinion is almost moot. You need to understand how things really work. The document has been called all sorts of things, but I see the paralells in history, alot more than in any Bible or Quatrain.

Your call.

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RE: A republican has a unique solution to immigration p... - 3/18/2011 2:55:37 AM   
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RE: A republican has a unique solution to immigration p... - 3/18/2011 4:26:30 AM   
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I find it funny that the Republicans on this board accept such statements as okay, yet condemn democrats for statements that do not involve killing people.


Which republicans accept this as ok. Do you have links?


I wonder why you didnt feel the need to question the person calling "all leftards"
nah not wondering, I know why




I have commented on his bigotry, I just don't feel the need to jump on every stupid post he makes. Not enough hours in the day. Now maybe you can show me where you have jumped on the bigots from the left as well?


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RE: A republican has a unique solution to immigration p... - 3/18/2011 4:27:46 AM   
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I find it funny that the Republicans on this board accept such statements as okay, yet condemn democrats for statements that do not involve killing people.


Which republicans accept this as ok. Do you have links?



Well, one good example is sanity, of course he said it was not newsworthy. Yet he will post just about any statement or act of a democrat and condemn it like the person just burned a bible.


Actually that is not a good example. He did not say it was okay, he said it wasn't newsworthy. But you used republicans in plural so surely you can come up with one who actually said what you said they did.


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RE: A republican has a unique solution to immigration p... - 3/18/2011 4:40:35 AM   
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I dont NEED to whine  about being called a leftard, or a libtard or being labelled a commie, whatever..., you should try it sometimes, of course I would never call you a commie....
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RE: A republican has a unique solution to immigration p... - 3/18/2011 4:59:24 AM   
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Ill give you a clue, you find it   check out brains "brain dead conservative" thread about five or six days ago.
Well I guess that's what I get when I skip one on brains threads. But if I am going to get caught being wrong, at least I have a nice ass to look at while I am doing it.

I dont NEED to whine  about being called a leftard, or a libtard or being labelled a commie, whatever..., you should try it sometimes, of course I would never call you a commie....
I don't necessarily need to, but I do occasionally enjoy slapping a bigot.

I hate being "wrong" twice in a row
I think you are right enough times to make up for it if you are wrong once in a while. If that makes any sense. It's still early and I haven't had any coffee yet.







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