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The Bible, as a whole, doesn't endorse anything consistently, except perhaps that one should love God. It is a collection of texts, some written more than a thousand years ago, most more than two thousand, that say all sorts of things, some beautiful, some not. So what? In other news, the sky is still blue.

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ORIGINAL: tweakabelle

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Rule
In my opinion because of that he was superior to Jesus - but unfortunately still a Jew.

Rule, comments such as the one I have bolded above are offensive and completely unnecessary. If you are stupid enough to hold racist prejudices please keep them to yourself. They are your problem. Deal with them.

Please do not insult the readers of these forums with this type of disgusting racist crap again.

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ORIGINAL: tweakabelle
It is commonly believed that the Bible is a valid source of moral codes and ethical behaviour. A more extreme interpretation of this is that the Bible is the only source of morality. Both perspectives are widely held and promoted today.

It seems perfectly reasonable to me to question whether a text that is at best equivocal about slavery has any relevance as a source of morality or ethics in today's world. It is just as reasonable, it seems to me, to question whether either of the above interpretations is valid and to promote alternative understandings, morals and ethics.

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More reasons why I think ALL RELIGION IS BULLSHIT. I am so glad to be in the company of others that believe the same like the late George Carlin, Sir Richard Dawkins, Christopher Hitchens (almost the only point of agreement I have with him) and of course Bill Maher.

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And with that, I am done stating the obvious about science education.

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Tazzygirl, I have no idea what you studied, but I agree that you don't seem to grasp the difference between a science and a history degree.

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ORIGINAL: Kirata



Questioning the text, instead of the people who use it to justify their objectionable behaviors, smacks of an agenda that we've seen before in human history, and which has never done anyone any good.

K.

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Rule
In my opinion because of that he was superior to Jesus - but unfortunately still a Jew.

Rule, comments such as the one I have bolded above are offensive and completely unnecessary. If you are stupid enough to hold racist prejudices please keep them to yourself. They are your problem. Deal with them.

Please do not insult the readers of these forums with this type of disgusting racist crap again.

That is but one reason I have rule on ignore.

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I think the original issue - whether this alternative translation is a good idea or not - is interesting because it has happened time and time again throughout history. No religion remains unchanged. What starts off as an oddball idea eventually grows accepted and spurs its own offshoots and mutations.

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Out of curiosity, tweak, are you saying religion hasnt "adapted"?

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ORIGINAL: Hippiekinkster
It's a Nederlander Jew-hating neo-nazi with maggots crawling around in its brain (or what passes for one).

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Excellent point. I too find it odd that so many religious ppl are in denial about the very principle and process - evolution - that helped enable their institutions and ideologies in the first place.

This principle can be applied to the fields of ideology, linguistics and culture, as well as its well known application to biology. When things cease adapting to their circumstances, they are effectively guaranteeing their ongoing irrelevance and eventual obsolescence.

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

Out of curiosity, tweak, are you saying religion hasnt "adapted"?

It's perfectly obvious to me that is neither stated nor implied in my post. So I am unclear about what may have sparked your curiosity in this instance.