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Elisabella -> RE: New Bible draws critics of gender-neutral language (3/22/2011 10:53:00 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Kirata

Questioning the text, instead of the people who use it to justify their objectionable behaviors, smacks of an agenda that we've seen before in human history, and which has never done anyone any good.

K.


I completely disagree. I question this:

When a man strikes his male or female slave with a rod so hard that the slave dies under his hand, he shall be punished. If, however, the slave survives for a day or two, he is not to be punished, since the slave is his own property. (Exodus 21:20-21)

When a man sells his daughter as a slave, she will not be freed at the end of six years as the men are. If she does not please the man who bought her, he may allow her to be bought back again. (Exodus 21:7)

Slaves, obey your human masters in everything, not only when being watched, as currying favor, but in simplicity of heart, fearing the Lord. (Colossians 3:22)

Wives, be subordinate to your husbands, as is proper in the Lord. (Colossians 3:18)

Withhold not chastisement from a boy; if you beat him with a rod he will not die. Beat him with the rod, and you will save him from the nether world. (Proverbs 23:13-14)

Make ready to slaughter his sons for the guilt of their fathers; Lest they rise and posses the earth, and fill the breadth of the world with tyrants. (Isaiah 14:21)

A man or a woman who acts as a medium or fortuneteller shall be put to death by stoning; they have no one but themselves to blame for their death. (Leviticus 20:27)

If a man lies with a male as with a women, both of them shall be put to death for their abominable deed; they have forfeited their lives." (Leviticus 20:13)

A priest's daughter who loses her honor by committing fornication and thereby dishonors her father also, shall be burned to death. (Leviticus 21:9)

If within the city a man comes upon a maiden who is betrothed, and has relations with her, you shall bring them both out of the gate of the city and there stone them to death: the girl because she did not cry out for help though she was in the city, and the man because he violated his neighbors wife. (Deuteronomy 22:23-24)

But if this charge is true, and evidence of the girls virginity is not found, they shall bring the girl to the entrance of her fathers house and there her townsman shall stone her to death, because she committed a crime against Israel by her unchasteness in her father's house. Thus shall you purge the evil from your midst. (Deuteronomy 22:20-21)

"When you go out to war against your enemies and the LORD, your God, delivers them into your hand, so that you take captives, if you see a comely woman among the captives and become so enamored of her that you wish to have her as wife, you may take her home to your house. But before she may live there, she must shave her head and pare her nails and lay aside her captive's garb. After she has mourned her father and mother for a full month, you may have relations with her, and you shall be her husband and she shall be your wife. However, if later on you lose your liking for her, you shall give her her freedom, if she wishes it; but you shall not sell her or enslave her, since she was married to you under compulsion." (Deuteronomy 21:10-14)

Suppose you hear in one of the towns the LORD your God is giving you that some worthless rabble among you have led their fellow citizens astray by encouraging them to worship foreign gods. In such cases, you must examine the facts carefully. If you find it is true and can prove that such a detestable act has occurred among you, you must attack that town and completely destroy all its inhabitants, as well as all the livestock. Then you must pile all the plunder in the middle of the street and burn it. Put the entire town to the torch as a burnt offering to the LORD your God. (Deuteronomy 13:13)

Anyone who is captured will be run through with a sword. Their little children will be dashed to death right before their eyes. Their homes will be sacked and their wives raped by the attacking hordes. For I will stir up the Medes against Babylon, and no amount of silver or gold will buy them off. The attacking armies will shoot down the young people with arrows. They will have no mercy on helpless babies and will show no compassion for the children. (Isaiah 13:15-18)





Moonhead -> RE: New Bible draws critics of gender-neutral language (3/22/2011 11:08:53 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Kirata
Excuse me? Christianity began as a Jewish sect. They didn't have to "swipe" the Torah, the histories, the major and minor Prophets, the Psalms, or anything. They were Jews.

Of course, then a fellow called Paul suffered a psychotic episode that left him with the maniacal conviction that he knew what Christ taught better than Christ did, and the rest is history. Judaism evolved into the rabbinic Judaism that we know today, and sacrificial Judaism put on pagan robes and became Christianity.

Now, as it happens there was another fellow involved, who reportedly said, "I and my Father are one," and who insisted, twice, "I will have mercy, and not sacrifice." According to him, as you simply forgive your fellows so also your Father will forgive you. But I can't remember his name.

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There's historically a bit more to it than just the revisionist misogynist Paul: the Bible wasn't actually compiled until Constantine decided to adopt Christianity as the new official state religion of the Roman Empire.




GotSteel -> RE: New Bible draws critics of gender-neutral language (3/27/2011 6:45:46 AM)

Elisabella, I couldn't agree more and I think that trying to stop people from questioning such passages smacks of an agenda that has never done anyone any good.




GotSteel -> RE: New Bible draws critics of gender-neutral language (3/27/2011 6:47:17 AM)

Tazzy, I have a BS in computer science.




tazzygirl -> RE: New Bible draws critics of gender-neutral language (3/27/2011 7:32:55 AM)

I minored in programming... lol... dont think there is much call for Fortran these days.

I do find it interesting that I asked that question of someone claiming to have a science degree and yet you answer.




Moonhead -> RE: New Bible draws critics of gender-neutral language (3/27/2011 8:59:58 AM)

Wasn't there quite a demand for Fortran programmers around the turn of the Millennium in case the (then considered a terrifying threat rather than the damp squib it turned out to be) "Milennium Bug" knocked over any of the legacy systems that still run on that?




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