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RE: Kudos to Japan - 3/20/2011 9:44:25 AM

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I can only hope we can be more like them when faced with another situation like Katrina. Instead of acting like a mob pre-pubescent animals.

Well, I certainly wouldn't behave as they have.

They've been told to sit and freeze and starve, to wait, for a week or more for (government, presumably) aid.
Second day, third day- I'm headed inland unless I'm injured, or looking for my children.

That's basically, of course, what we asked people to do after Katrina- wait; we blamed the government when they didn't.

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RE: Kudos to Japan - 3/20/2011 2:17:55 PM

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If I may be so bold, Mayor Nagin made a city wide evacuation order, unfortunately, there was not enough support to get the people without transportation out of the city.

Then the levees broke, stranding those who did not evacuate.

Then it was three days before we got anyone into the city to help the people stuck at the super dome.

Basically, the state and federal government were ill prepared to handle anything like katrina.

Now, look at the Cascadia Subduction Zone that stretches from Northern California to just north of Vancouver British Columbia.

The last known great earthquake in the northwest was in January 1700, the Cascadia Earthquake. Geological evidence indicates that great earthquakes may have occurred at least seven times in the last 3,500 years, suggesting a return time of 300 to 600 years. There is also evidence of accompanying tsunamis with every earthquake, and one line of evidence for these earthquakes is tsunami damage, and through Japanese records of tsunamis.

The next rupture of the Cascadia Subduction Zone will cause widespread destruction throughout the Pacific Northwest. Cascadia subduction zone

Considering that in the last century, no one thought to build to earthquake standards north of California, the possible extent of damage would be far worse than what happened in Japan, the only difference is that there is not a Nuclear Plant anywhere near the coast.

The US would be hard pressed to deal with a disaster of that magnitude, if the entire fault ruptured, which is the usual case with these types of faults.

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RE: Kudos to Japan - 3/20/2011 2:40:23 PM

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If I may be so bold, Mayor Nagin made a city wide evacuation order, unfortunately, there was not enough support to get the people without transportation out of the city.

On August 26th, he told residents to "keep an eye" on the storm.

on the evening of the 27th, he finally called for a voluntary evacuation.

The mandatory order came sunday morning.

24 hours was hardly enough time to get that many poor out of that city.... Something he should have known. Instead he was more concerned about businesses.

http://articles.cnn.com/2005-08-28/weather/hurricane.katrina_1_levees-mammoth-storm-kathleen-blanco?_s=PM:WEATHER

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RE: Kudos to Japan - 3/20/2011 3:44:22 PM

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Tazzy, you missed the point I was trying to make. Katrina was expected, warnings were issued, and people had the chance, albeit not a good one to get out.

The point I was making was simple.

Mega thrust quakes rupture along the entire length of the fault, which means about 800 miles, which means the grand shaking will last for upwards of five minutes, possibly longer. The extent of the damage line would stretch from northern California to Vancouver, British Columbia.

The coastal area would have less than 15 minutes warning of the incoming tsunami which would roll up Pugent Sound into the Seattle and Tacoma area, and up the Columbia river to Portland, not to mention all the coastal communities.

Now look at how the US reacted to Katrina and ask yourself how well would we be able to react to an earthquake and tsunami damage zone 800 miles long?

The shaking lasted for 5.59 minutes in Japan.

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RE: Kudos to Japan - 3/20/2011 3:58:48 PM

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Ahem... how long do you think Katrina raged? The reaction to Katrina was based upon the idiocy of those in power, Bush on down. Not because of the people left behind.

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RE: Kudos to Japan - 3/20/2011 8:17:27 PM

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Then it was three days before we got anyone into the city to help the people stuck at the super dome.

Some of the Japanese waited a week. Tsunami damage was generally confined to <10 miles inland.

And, I wasn't posting to criticize the Japanese relief effort. I just said that I would not have waited.

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RE: Kudos to Japan - 3/20/2011 8:21:32 PM

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All those school buses sitting in water up to their seats...

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